Re: [Pharo-dev] feedback from yet another student presentation

Tobias Pape has been improving SS3 over the years and the latest versions are in continual use at HPI ... I can find out if there is serious interest ... Dale On 3/10/16 11:15 PM, Serge Stinckwich wrote: On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 8:08 AM, stepharo wrote: Le 10/3/16 22:14,

Re: [Pharo-dev] feedback from yet another student presentation

abergel wrote >> So this is a really big show stopper for the mooc. Because people will >> gave up just after the first lecture :( > The situation will be much easier I hope once git is well supported… IFAICT, git is well-supported right now. Having our entire infrastructure written in Pharo is

Re: [Pharo-dev] feedback from yet another student presentation

And that woukd be a nice thing to hack on during PharoDays I'm not sure that is good timing, at least not if you want to implement changes there. PharoDays is not at INRIA, and it is likely that improvements need changes at the system level. I'm not aware of a test environment for

Re: [Pharo-dev] feedback from yet another student presentation

On 11-03-16 09:22, philippe.b...@highoctane.be wrote: And that woukd be a nice thing to hack on during PharoDays I'm not sure that is good timing, at least not if you want to implement changes there. PharoDays is not at INRIA, and it is likely that improvements need changes at the system

Re: [Pharo-dev] feedback from yet another student presentation

Thanks for the proposition. Stef Le 11/3/16 09:22, philippe.b...@highoctane.be a écrit : And that woukd be a nice thing to hack on during PharoDays. On Mar 11, 2016 9:22 AM, "philippe.b...@highoctane.be "

Re: [Pharo-dev] feedback from yet another student presentation

Transport Layer Security, the successor of SSL (both implement https). > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 at 2:11 AM > From: stepharo <steph...@free.fr> > To: "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] feedback from yet another st

Re: [Pharo-dev] feedback from yet another student presentation

And that woukd be a nice thing to hack on during PharoDays. On Mar 11, 2016 9:22 AM, "philippe.b...@highoctane.be" < philippe.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > STH can be fixed. This is more like some data problem. > > Who can look at the system to identify issues? Is this a Mongo issue? > > Phil > On Mar

Re: [Pharo-dev] feedback from yet another student presentation

STH can be fixed. This is more like some data problem. Who can look at the system to identify issues? Is this a Mongo issue? Phil On Mar 11, 2016 8:17 AM, "Serge Stinckwich" wrote: > On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 8:08 AM, stepharo wrote: > > > > > > Le

Re: [Pharo-dev] feedback from yet another student presentation

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 8:08 AM, stepharo wrote: > > > Le 10/3/16 22:14, Alexandre Bergel a écrit : >>> >>> - it was realy hard to register a project on smalltalkhub just after >>> we created an account. >>> This already happened to me during the open-devs. >>> So this is a

Re: [Pharo-dev] feedback from yet another student presentation

THIS IS NOT THE POINT. THE POINT IS THAT WE WORKED LIKE MAD TO OFFER MOOC AND GET EXPOSURE AND IF SMALLTALKHUB DOES NOT WORK IT DEFEATS OUR GOAL Am'i clear? Stef Le 10/3/16 23:04, Peter Uhnák a écrit : If they know git - yes. Otherwise git is very complicated. But at least we will

Re: [Pharo-dev] feedback from yet another student presentation

@lists.pharo.org> Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] feedback from yet another student presentation SmalltalkHub looks like to have issues. e.g. Hilaire not being able to access the Mold project despite being a contributor. Removing/adding him didn't change much to the situation. We need

Re: [Pharo-dev] feedback from yet another student presentation

Me too and olivier too on our own projects! Stef Le 10/3/16 23:33, p...@highoctane.be a écrit : SmalltalkHub looks like to have issues. e.g. Hilaire not being able to access the Mold project despite being a contributor. Removing/adding him didn't change much to the situation. We need to

Re: [Pharo-dev] feedback from yet another student presentation

Le 10/3/16 22:14, Alexandre Bergel a écrit : - it was realy hard to register a project on smalltalkhub just after we created an account. This already happened to me during the open-devs. So this is a really big show stopper for the mooc. Because people will gave up just after the first

Re: [Pharo-dev] feedback from yet another student presentation

There's also the option of SS3 skinned to look like STH. We also really need TLS. Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 at 5:33 PM From: "p...@highoctane.be" <p...@highoctane.be> To: "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] f

Re: [Pharo-dev] feedback from yet another student presentation

Its not your fault that: a) Git has far better documentation b) Git has clear commands that leave little ambiguity to how the versioning works c) Git GUIs are light years ahead of Monticello d) Git supports versioning any file and not just code e) Github does not brake down every other day and it

Re: [Pharo-dev] feedback from yet another student presentation

Smalltalkhub is nice but it is based on Amber for its frontend and an old version at that. Not sure that it is the easiest thing in the world to maintain. Maybe it could be redone as a Seaside app with a couple of jQuery enhancements. On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 11:16 PM, Chris Cunningham

Re: [Pharo-dev] feedback from yet another student presentation

You'd be surprise at how little people know in some places. On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 11:04 PM, Peter Uhnák wrote: > If they know git - yes. Otherwise git is very complicated. But at least we >> will be able to say that this is not our fault. >> > > Software students not

Re: [Pharo-dev] feedback from yet another student presentation

SmalltalkHub looks like to have issues. e.g. Hilaire not being able to access the Mold project despite being a contributor. Removing/adding him didn't change much to the situation. We need to have more resources focusing on it as this is now a key part of our infrastructure. Phil On Thu, Mar

Re: [Pharo-dev] feedback from yet another student presentation

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > > - it was realy hard to register a project on smalltalkhub just after > we created an account. > > This already happened to me during the open-devs. > > So this is a really big show stopper for the mooc.

Re: [Pharo-dev] feedback from yet another student presentation

> > If they know git - yes. Otherwise git is very complicated. But at least we > will be able to say that this is not our fault. > Software students not knowing git in this day and age… is just sad. Git can get very complicated if you are going very deep, but then again that's true for any

Re: [Pharo-dev] feedback from yet another student presentation

> On 10 Mar 2016, at 22:14, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >> - it was realy hard to register a project on smalltalkhub just after we >> created an account. >> This already happened to me during the open-devs. >> So this is a really big show stopper for the mooc.

Re: [Pharo-dev] feedback from yet another student presentation

"TabsExample name: TabsExample new" Best regards, Henrik -Original Message- From: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-boun...@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of monty Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:35 PM To: pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] feedback from yet another stude

Re: [Pharo-dev] feedback from yet another student presentation

Not a duplicate, at least not of 17798. > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 at 4:35 PM > From: monty <mon...@programmer.net> > To: pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org > Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] feedback from yet another student presentation > > > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 at 4

Re: [Pharo-dev] feedback from yet another student presentation

> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 at 4:14 PM > From: "Alexandre Bergel" <alexandre.ber...@me.com> > To: "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] feedback from yet another student presentation > > > - it was

Re: [Pharo-dev] feedback from yet another student presentation

> - it was realy hard to register a project on smalltalkhub just after we > created an account. > This already happened to me during the open-devs. > So this is a really big show stopper for the mooc. Because people will gave > up just after the first lecture :( The situation will be much

[Pharo-dev] feedback from yet another student presentation

Hi today with anne we presented Moose and Pharo to students and teachers at Paris here are the conclusion: - it was realy hard to register a project on smalltalkhub just after we created an account. This already happened to me during the open-devs. So this is a really big show stopper