Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

2014-10-17 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Hi Mike, Yes sure I can. So this PharoNOS is basically TinyCore Linux with pure X server and Pharo running in fullscreen. Yes I already found out. I have made some auto-installation scripts which configure the disk so no setup wizard is needed. All space available is mounted under

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

2014-10-17 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Le 17 oct. 2014 04:02, mikefilonov mikefilo...@gmail.com a écrit : Hi Phil, I would really happy to know if this works for you. Considering this use case in mind do you have an idea how PharoNOS should handle the Image? Should it be embedded in ISO or should it be configured from clean

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

2014-10-17 Thread mikefilonov
Thank you Torsten. Great ideas :) I made a to-do list for this project not to forget anything https://trello.com/b/JXtcf2Ye/pharonos Yes, I have the following quick setup scenario in mind: downlod the ISO, start a virtual computer with it (in virtualization software or on a cloud server). Use

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

2014-10-17 Thread kilon alios
so the advantage of using this is that is a slim down linux distro with Pharo included ? Why not just download a small linux distro and install Pharo ? On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 10:14 AM, mikefilonov mikefilo...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Torsten. Great ideas :) I made a to-do list for this

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

2014-10-17 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Isn't it what Pharocloud is all about? ;) Partly because in enterprise environments you may want to run apps in intranet/own network only. Bye T.

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

2014-10-17 Thread Damien Cassou
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 3:47 AM, mikefilonov mikefilo...@gmail.com wrote: Hm, just now get the idea to run Image chooser if default image failed. Is it available on linux? you have the pharo launcher that let's you download images from the web (be it on jenkins, on files.pharo.org, or on your

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

2014-10-17 Thread mikefilonov
Yes, the idea of PharoNOS is to have the Smalltalk-only environment with as little external stuff as possible. Current PharoNOS implementation based on TinyCore Linux - the smallest Linux distro - in order to have the smallest possible system footprint. Why not just download a small linux distro

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

2014-10-17 Thread kilon alios
I see, I dont have experience with TinyCore linux, but I do have experience with puppy linux which I really liked and used several times on my older pcs. Interest concept , good work :) Actually puppy linux is similar to what you do, in the sense that it uses its own programming language , genie

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

2014-10-17 Thread Rafael Luque
Then, PharoNOS does not mean No Operating System, but minimun operating system? A few days ago I answered in this list about Smalltalk-based unikernels, similar to Mirage OS (http://www.openmirage.org/). Do you think PharoNOS can evolve into this kind of tool? 2014-10-17 10:28 GMT+02:00

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

2014-10-17 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Hi Mike, tried to swap the image using the following procedure: 1. Run the following code to download latest Pharo 4.0 ZnClient new url: 'http://files.pharo.org/image/40/latest.zip'; downloadTo: '/mnt/universe/pharo-image/latest.zip'. ZipArchive extractAllIn:

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

2014-10-17 Thread Pavel Krivanek
Hi, do you plan to develop it as a plugin? When I played with TinyCore Linux and Pharo (using framebuffer), I directly applied required the plugins on the filesystem. -- Pavel 2014-10-17 11:09 GMT+02:00 Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de: Hi Mike, tried to swap the image using the following

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

2014-10-17 Thread Denis Kudriashov
If SqueakNOS wil continued and moved to Pharo this name (PharoNOS) should be free. Maybe this project should be renamed? PharoLinux? Anyway great job. I remember many yeas ago squeak had similar project by some japanese guy 2014-10-17 12:39 GMT+04:00 Rafael Luque rafael.luque.le...@gmail.com:

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

2014-10-17 Thread Pavel Krivanek
Here's the image: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzSsmZhqtUTeaURYRnA0eHgycXM/view?usp=sharing 2014-10-17 11:47 GMT+02:00 Pavel Krivanek pavel.kriva...@gmail.com: Hi, do you plan to develop it as a plugin? When I played with TinyCore Linux and Pharo (using framebuffer), I directly applied

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

2014-10-17 Thread mikefilonov
I have updated the ISO - Changed the disk setup - now it is more safe - it finds first disk without a partition table and use it for persistance. If no such disk found ISO works from memory. - Added PharoLaucher as a default Image - Added sqlite3 driver (not test yet though) - Made Pharo run by

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

2014-10-16 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Ah, very cool. I was thinking of running Pharo or some devices around the network for probing things. This may prove to be the perfect vehicle for that! Phil On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:30 PM, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I just found

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

2014-10-16 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Downloaded the iso and started a VM. Works well. What would be nice: - a PharoVM with AioPlugin so that CommandShell works nicer. - a preloaded CommandShell - a way to configure the keyboard to another layout and... a Dark/DawnTheme and a wicked cool logo for the background! Configurations

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

2014-10-16 Thread Torsten Bergmann
that builds an ISO for Pharo 3.0, current 4.0 and others ...   Thx T.  Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Oktober 2014 um 22:07 Uhr Von: p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be An: Pharo Development List pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org Betreff: Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS Downloaded the iso and started a VM.   Works

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

2014-10-16 Thread mikefilonov
Hi Torsten, Yes sure I can. So this PharoNOS is basically TinyCore Linux with pure X server and Pharo running in fullscreen. I have made some auto-installation scripts which configure the disk so no setup wizard is needed. All space available is mounted under /mnt/universe/ so you may use that

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

2014-10-16 Thread mikefilonov
I'll take a look at AioPlugin issue. How I can test if it is loaded well? The ISO process can be easily automated. If the PharoNOS is really needed I'll run CI somewhere :) May be we could think of a way not to package the image but somehow fetch it after start? It could be a script which

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

2014-10-16 Thread mikefilonov
Hi Phil, I would really happy to know if this works for you. Considering this use case in mind do you have an idea how PharoNOS should handle the Image? Should it be embedded in ISO or should it be configured from clean Pharo on each device? For instance, if it is really useful we can have a

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

2014-10-16 Thread David T. Lewis
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 06:52:48PM -0700, mikefilonov wrote: I'll take a look at AioPlugin issue. How I can test if it is loaded well? With OSProcess installed, evaluate AioEventHandler aioPluginPresent Dave

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

2014-10-16 Thread S Krish
Lovely... TCL + Pharo .. ! On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 7:17 AM, mikefilonov mikefilo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Torsten, Yes sure I can. So this PharoNOS is basically TinyCore Linux with pure X server and Pharo running in fullscreen. I have made some auto-installation scripts which configure

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

2014-10-16 Thread S Krish
Guess this was couple of years back.. TCL + Pharo on a Virtual Box: My play with it then.. https://plus.google.com/photos/101656219013170129431/albums/5717749739476813505?banner=pwa On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:52 AM, S Krish krishnamachari.sudha...@gmail.com wrote: Lovely... TCL + Pharo .. !

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

2014-10-16 Thread mikefilonov
Wow, this is an interesting stuff. Is this a kind of desktop manager written on Pharo? From what I can see on video it support calling external processes like open-office. Does it work on Pharo 3.0 ? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/PharoNOS-tp4784982p4785054.html Sent