Re: [Pharo-dev] recovering from a deep disc crash….

2013-10-19 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Oct 17, 2013, at 11:52 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote: Time machine is wonderful for this… But i was not backuping applications so I had to reinstall them. :) Alexandre On Oct 17, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: so backup

Re: [Pharo-dev] recovering from a deep disc crash….

2013-10-19 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Goubier Thierry thierry.goub...@cea.fr wrote: I remember trying to recover mail folders by reading the blocks on disk one by one with a binary editor... Ended learning far too much about the internal layout of an ext2 filesystem. But dead harddrive is nice

Re: [Pharo-dev] recovering from a deep disc crash???.

2013-10-19 Thread David T. Lewis
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 01:04:25PM +0200, Torsten Bergmann wrote: Hardware that runs without problems must be from the good old days. If Nico is right then I guess Pharo is already running on an Ural-1? Where can I download the VM? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ural_(computer) Thanks

Re: [Pharo-dev] recovering from a deep disc crash….

2013-10-18 Thread dimitris chloupis
I learned my lesson once, back in my University days, I was doing a law essay in English (Greek is my mother tongue so definitely not easy) , I was working for hours , back then microsoft word had no auto save, forgot to save, accidentally close the window , bye bye work. That was 1999-2000.

Re: [Pharo-dev] recovering from a deep disc crash….

2013-10-18 Thread Goubier Thierry
I remember trying to recover mail folders by reading the blocks on disk one by one with a binary editor... Ended learning far too much about the internal layout of an ext2 filesystem. But dead harddrive is nice in one way: you don't loose time trying to recover stuff, you know it's dead :(

Re: [Pharo-dev] recovering from a deep disc crash….

2013-10-18 Thread Igor Stasenko
thankfully, i never had problems with hardware: it serves me well. But still didn't prevented from losing precious data: the humans who break into my apartment and stole the machine, with all data it has :( On 18 October 2013 11:18, Goubier Thierry thierry.goub...@cea.fr wrote: I remember

Re: [Pharo-dev] recovering from a deep disc crash….

2013-10-18 Thread Nicolas Cellier
Igor, your hardware never failed? It must be some special brand crafted in former soviet union ;) 2013/10/18 Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com thankfully, i never had problems with hardware: it serves me well. But still didn't prevented from losing precious data: the humans who break into my

Re: [Pharo-dev] recovering from a deep disc crash….

2013-10-18 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 18 October 2013 12:52, Nicolas Cellier nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com wrote: Igor, your hardware never failed? It must be some special brand crafted in former soviet union ;) well, sure i had problems with it, but not at cost of total data loss. couple times its keyboard, mouse, once

Re: [Pharo-dev] recovering from a deep disc crash….

2013-10-18 Thread Nicolas Cellier
beautiful link 2013/10/18 Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de Hardware that runs without problems must be from the good old days. If Nico is right then I guess Pharo is already running on an Ural-1? Where can I download the VM? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ural_(computer) I try to imagine

Re: [Pharo-dev] recovering from a deep disc crash….

2013-10-17 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Time machine is wonderful for this... Alexandre On Oct 17, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: so backup your machine… because mine was still working at 8h this morning and 8h40 dropped dead -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre