Re: [Pharo-dev] can not update pharo

2013-12-17 Thread Marcus Denker
On 16 Dec 2013, at 23:31, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: Can not update pharo (my current version is 30645) MCSmalltalkhubRepository(Object)error: Could not load ScriptLoader30-MarcusDenker.779.mcz: ZnHttpUnsuccessful: 400 Bad Request This is needed for the update to 649, I just

[Pharo-dev] Fwd: New pharo questions for Dec 17 - Stack Exchange

2013-12-17 Thread Marcus Denker
3 questions in one day… we are getting famous ;-) Begin forwarded message: From: Stack Exchange do-not-re...@stackexchange.com Subject: New pharo questions for Dec 17 - Stack Exchange Date: 17 Dec 2013 05:51:58 GMT+1 To: marcus.den...@gmail.com Reply-To: do-not-re...@stackexchange.com 3

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Phratch 1.0beta

2013-12-17 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Impressive!!! Alexandre On Dec 16, 2013, at 10:45 PM, jannik.laval jannik.la...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I continue to develop Phratch, the port of Scratch in Pharo. Phratch is a visual programming language on top of Pharo. There are lots of new features: - Settings - FileSystems -

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Phratch 1.0beta

2013-12-17 Thread Marcus Denker
Do you have a screenshot for an [ANN] on pharo.org? Hi, I continue to develop Phratch, the port of Scratch in Pharo. Phratch is a visual programming language on top of Pharo. There are lots of new features: - Settings - FileSystems - Metacello - integration of BYOB (allows to

[Pharo-dev] Easy issue to fix: 12063

2013-12-17 Thread Marcus Denker
This is a nice issue for someone to do that wants to start with something simple: 12063 ConfigurationBrowser window about message is wrong (and dated) https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12063

[Pharo-dev] Linux cogvm xim howto

2013-12-17 Thread Marcus Denker
Hi, Here is a tutorial on how to modify and then compile a cog vm with XIM support (to input Korean): http://workspace.onionmixer.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Linux_cogvm_xim_howto (it is in Korean…) Marcus

Re: [Pharo-dev] can not update pharo

2013-12-17 Thread Nicolai Hess
2013/12/17 Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr On 16 Dec 2013, at 23:31, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: Can not update pharo (my current version is 30645) MCSmalltalkhubRepository(Object)error: Could not load ScriptLoader30-MarcusDenker.779.mcz: ZnHttpUnsuccessful: 400 Bad

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Phratch 1.0beta

2013-12-17 Thread jannik laval
Yes, I am trying to push it on Android. I have some problem with the Android configuration file, but I hope it will work soon. Jannik 2013/12/16 kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com Thats great news and more the reason for me to try it. I am very intetested with your intergration of BYOB ,

[Pharo-dev] Reviewing fixes from inbox

2013-12-17 Thread Nicolai Hess
Some questions on inbox and reviewing bug fixes. If I want to review a change, I do the this - with the latest pharo3 image - open pharo30inbox in monticello - select a slice load or merge the change What is the preferred way, load or change the slice? What if there are more than one slice for

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Phratch 1.0beta

2013-12-17 Thread jannik laval
2013/12/17 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr excellent jannik you should publish it in the metacello repository on squeaksource metacelloRepository is it still alive ? on ss3 metaRepoForPharo20 Ok, I will do that asap and add the catalog metadata. What is it ? Jannik

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Phratch 1.0beta

2013-12-17 Thread jannik laval
Ok, For info, there is already a job for Pharo30 ( https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/Phratch/) Jannik 2013/12/17 Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com Exactly. Pharo 3 should be considered stable. Adopting it now will actually give you time to get the possible bugs fixed. Doru On

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Phratch 1.0beta

2013-12-17 Thread jannik laval
You are partly right: I am developing on MacOS. But I hope to have a windows version that works. I will use it for teaching on March 2014. The students are on Windows. So if you have feedback, I will accept it with pleasure. I am trying to load it on a Windows 7, let's see. Cheers, Jannik

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Phratch 1.0beta

2013-12-17 Thread p...@highoctane.be
I started fine on Windows 8 64-bit. Now, why is the PhratchFrameMorph not something that I can easily resize to full screen? (I have to pick it up with halos and resize with the yellow icon, and picking it up requires the shift-click on the desktop background). There is the top right icon

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Phratch 1.0beta

2013-12-17 Thread p...@highoctane.be
As of teaching, I try to get my wife to get acquainted to it. Math teacher. I also see things like CameraPlugin.dll and Mpeg3Plugin.dll ScratchPlugin.dll which aren't in the stock Pharo VM (2.0) Is the code for these in the stock vm repo or elsewhere (with your own version)? Phil

[Pharo-dev] Please stop top posting... (was Re: Tell me about your workflow)

2013-12-17 Thread Göran Krampe
Hi! As Stephan Eggermont noted there was some top posting going on and if you don't know what that refers to you might be a part of the problem :) and should read this funny page describing the phenomena: http://catb.org/jargon/html/T/top-post.html ...or in more detail:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Showstopper to upgrade to 3.0

2013-12-17 Thread Sebastian Sastre
me want FFI :D I'd very much like to test any candidate version about this thanks! sebastian o/ On Dec 16, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 16 Dec 2013, at 16:52, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: Hi guys, I was talking with

Re: [Pharo-dev] Please stop top posting... (was Re: Tell me about your workflow)

2013-12-17 Thread Göran Krampe
On 12/17/2013 12:49 PM, Frank Shearar wrote: On 17 December 2013 11:10, Göran Krampe go...@krampe.se wrote: Hi! As Stephan Eggermont noted there was some top posting going on and if you don't know what that refers to you might be a part of the problem :) and should read this funny page

Re: [Pharo-dev] Please stop top posting... (was Re: Tell me about your workflow)

2013-12-17 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Yeah Gmail On Tuesday, December 17, 2013, Göran Krampe wrote: On 12/17/2013 12:49 PM, Frank Shearar wrote: On 17 December 2013 11:10, Göran Krampe go...@krampe.se wrote: Hi! As Stephan Eggermont noted there was some top posting going on and if you don't know what that refers to you

[Pharo-dev] Relation tower is coming for Roassal

2013-12-17 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Hi! A new builder for Roassal is coming… The goal of Relation tower is to easily visualize relations between group of elements. We had the inspiration from the following website http://peoplemov.in/#! Here are some screenshots:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Showstopper to upgrade to 3.0

2013-12-17 Thread Marcus Denker
On 17 Dec 2013, at 12:12, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: me want FFI :D I'd very much like to test any candidate version about this https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12438/Old-FFI-Check-that-it-is-parsed-correctly-and-works The first step is that we need a

Re: [Pharo-dev] Please stop top posting... (was Re: Tell me about your workflow)

2013-12-17 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
2013/12/17 Frank Shearar frank.shea...@gmail.com: On 17 December 2013 11:10, Göran Krampe go...@krampe.se wrote: If you use Gmail, doing the right thing is now _hard_. (It's a click-the-ellipsis, then a find-the-place-to-edit, then hit return to make a space for your words, then type, followed

[Pharo-dev] Another very simple issue: 11387 Ancient files

2013-12-17 Thread Marcus Denker
This issue was opened in August. It looks to be *really* quick and easy to either fix or reject as invalid: any takers? It looks like some files are very old and not used anymore. I can compile on linux without these filesa: platforms/unix/config/config.sub platforms/unix/config/config.guess

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Phratch 1.0beta

2013-12-17 Thread jannik laval
Hi Phil, In fact, there is a hidden menu: click on a menu maintaining shift button. You will see new items in file menu and edit menu. In the edit menu you can turn fill screen on. Cheers, Jannik 2013/12/17 p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be I started fine on Windows 8 64-bit. Now, why

Re: [Pharo-dev] Relation tower is coming for Roassal

2013-12-17 Thread Tudor Girba
Great addition! Where can we get it from? Doru On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.comwrote: Hi! A new builder for Roassal is coming… The goal of Relation tower is to easily visualize relations between group of elements. We had the inspiration from the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Please stop top posting... (was Re: Tell me about your workflow)

2013-12-17 Thread kilon alios
Guilty as Charged ! Yeap no love for mailing lists and even emails in total from me either. And yes I am a big fan of top posting or whatever its called. I prefer reading the reply first , see the quote later on. Having to scroll down a quote to see a reply is killing my inner child. But I have

Re: [Pharo-dev] Another very simple issue: 11387 Ancient files

2013-12-17 Thread Guillermo Polito
I would tag that for 4.0... what do you think? Better not do that kind of changes in beta :) On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.frwrote: This issue was opened in August. It looks to be *really* quick and easy to either fix or reject as invalid: any takers?

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Phratch 1.0beta

2013-12-17 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
Le 16/12/2013 22:45, jannik.laval a écrit : I continue to develop Phratch, the port of Scratch in Pharo. Phratch is a visual programming language on top of Pharo. It is fantastic you ported and keep improving this Smalltlak Jewel on Pharo ;). Thanks Hilaire -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Phratch 1.0beta

2013-12-17 Thread kilon alios
Tried your installation instructions on Pharo 3 latest build and I get this error The method AbstractFileReferenceensureDirectory has been deprecated. Use ensureCreateDirectory this is the full stack trace MorphicUIManagerwarningDefaultAction: Deprecation(Warning)defaultAction

Re: [Pharo-dev] 34 priority issues for Pharo3

2013-12-17 Thread Guillermo Polito
I'm checking https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11756/When-removing-intance-variables-from-a-class-methods-from-traits-in-the-recompile-classes-have-nil-binding I've reproduced it and writing a test for it now... But I don't fully understand how the new class builder propagates changes to

Re: [Pharo-dev] Please stop top posting... (was Re: Tell me about your workflow)

2013-12-17 Thread Sergi Reyner
2013/12/17 Frank Shearar frank.shea...@gmail.com This battle was lost a decade ago, I'm afraid. This wasn´t even a battle until someone decided that top-posting was an amazingly good thing. Thanks to that, we now have posts/mails that sometimes don´t contain even a full sentence of original

Re: [Pharo-dev] 34 priority issues for Pharo3

2013-12-17 Thread btc
Marcus Denker wrote: Sometimes it’s really strange… people seem to really think that releasing software contains a “reading minds from the distance” phase of bug discovery. Marcus Not able to read minds yet? I've logged an issue for it. cheers -ben

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Phratch 1.0beta

2013-12-17 Thread jannik laval
These plugins are included in Scratch and I reused them. I separated the source code of them in a different package. You can find them in the repository http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/JLaval/Phratch/main. The package is named PhratchPrimitiveSources. Cheers 2013/12/17 p...@highoctane.be

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Phratch 1.0beta

2013-12-17 Thread jannik laval
2013/12/17 kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com Tried your installation instructions on Pharo 3 latest build and I get this error The method AbstractFileReferenceensureDirectory has been deprecated. Use ensureCreateDirectory This deprecation should be new :) Phratch works on Pharo2.0. I can

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Phratch 1.0beta

2013-12-17 Thread Tudor Girba
Please do not change the name :). Google phratch and you will see that there are only 2000 results, and many of them relate to your project. You do not want to lose that. Doru On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 4:06 PM, jannik laval jannik.la...@gmail.comwrote: 2013/12/17 kilon alios

Re: [Pharo-dev] Easy issue to fix: 12063

2013-12-17 Thread btc
Marcus Denker wrote: This is a nice issue for someone to do that wants to start with something simple: 12063 ConfigurationBrowser window about message is wrong (and dated) https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12063 I'll have a go at it, but I'd like some wider discussion as its

Re: [Pharo-dev] Easy issue to fix: 12063

2013-12-17 Thread btc
b...@openinworld.com wrote: Marcus Denker wrote: This is a nice issue for someone to do that wants to start with something simple: 12063 ConfigurationBrowser window about message is wrong (and dated) https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12063 I'll have a go at it, but I'd like some

[Pharo-dev] Critical ClassBuilder bug

2013-12-17 Thread Guillermo Polito
Hi!! I started this afternoon to see a bug on class bindings on trait methods. This one: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11756/Reshaping-a-class-breaks-classBinding-identity Now, after playing and moving around that, I noticed that the problem is worse: 1)Create Class A. 2)Create method Am1.

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Phratch 1.0beta

2013-12-17 Thread Marcus Denker
On 17 Dec 2013, at 17:30, jannik laval jannik.la...@gmail.com wrote: Like this one ? phratch.png Yes, perfect! Marcus

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 06531d: 30650

2013-12-17 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 06531da2c30437fce422a53f58c40228fb0b4675 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/06531da2c30437fce422a53f58c40228fb0b4675 Author: Jenkins Build Server bo...@pharo-project.org Date:

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2013-12-17 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/30650 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Re: [Pharo-dev] Easy issue to fix: 12063

2013-12-17 Thread Marcus Denker
On 17 Dec 2013, at 16:24, b...@openinworld.com wrote: Marcus Denker wrote: This is a nice issue for someone to do that wants to start with something simple: 12063 ConfigurationBrowser window about message is wrong (and dated) https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12063 I'll

Re: [Pharo-dev] Please stop top posting... (was Re: Tell me about your workflow)

2013-12-17 Thread Chris Muller
If you use Gmail, doing the right thing is now _hard_. (It's a click-the-ellipsis, then a find-the-place-to-edit, then hit return to No need for the fine-motor click, just use right-arrow + Enter. make a space for your words, then type, followed by scrolling back up to that place because

Re: [Pharo-dev] Please stop top posting... (was Re: Tell me about your workflow)

2013-12-17 Thread Chris Muller
Ah. I hadn't thought that many devs actually use the web UI for gmail, but perhaps they are :) But that would defeat one of the primary purpose of using web email which is access from any machine. Besides that, Gmail has the best UI, bar none. The handling of Conversations is what sets it

Re: [Pharo-dev] Please stop top posting... (was Re: Tell me about your workflow)

2013-12-17 Thread Sergi Reyner
2013/12/17 Sergi Reyner sergi.rey...@gmail.com people took pride in having a very low content to quote ratio Of course, I actually meant quoted/original content there. Cheers, Sergi

Re: [Pharo-dev] Please stop top posting... (was Re: Tell me about your workflow)

2013-12-17 Thread Ron Teitelbaum
I never top quote J Ron From: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-boun...@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of Sergi Reyner Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 11:49 AM To: Pharo Development List Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Please stop top posting... (was Re: Tell me about your workflow) 2013/12/17 Sergi

Re: [Pharo-dev] Fwd: New pharo questions for Dec 17 - Stack Exchange

2013-12-17 Thread MartinW
Marcus Denker-4 wrote 3 questions in one day… we are getting famous ;-) It is also encouraged to ask http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2011/07/its-ok-to-ask-and-answer-your-own-questions/ /and answer/ your own questions on Stackoverflow. I just documented how to add Nautilus menu context entries

Re: [Pharo-dev] Easy issue to fix: 12063

2013-12-17 Thread btc
Marcus Denker wrote: On 17 Dec 2013, at 16:24, b...@openinworld.com wrote: Marcus Denker wrote: This is a nice issue for someone to do that wants to start with something simple: 12063 ConfigurationBrowser window about message is wrong (and dated)

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Phratch 1.0beta

2013-12-17 Thread kilon alios
--- Please, try it with Pharo2.0 for now. I will fix your bug soon. Janniik - Yes I am already trying it with pharo 2 and it seems to work fine. Is there a way to trigger the world menu ? Your GUI takes the whole pharo window so there is no open space to trigger the world

Re: [Pharo-dev] Please stop top posting... (was Re: Tell me about your workflow)

2013-12-17 Thread Frank Shearar
On 17 December 2013 19:56, Göran Krampe go...@krampe.se wrote: On 12/17/2013 03:30 PM, Sergi Reyner wrote: I came to the conclusion, some years ago, that I will continue to strive to quote properly, and the rest of the world is free to do whatever they want. And I am then free to just ignore

Re: [Pharo-dev] Please stop top posting... (was Re: Tell me about your workflow)

2013-12-17 Thread Göran Krampe
On 12/17/2013 03:30 PM, Sergi Reyner wrote: I came to the conclusion, some years ago, that I will continue to strive to quote properly, and the rest of the world is free to do whatever they want. And I am then free to just ignore messages or threads that are too much trouble for me to follow.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Please stop top posting... (was Re: Tell me about your workflow)

2013-12-17 Thread Frank Shearar
On 17 December 2013 16:45, Chris Muller asquea...@gmail.com wrote: Ah. I hadn't thought that many devs actually use the web UI for gmail, but perhaps they are :) But that would defeat one of the primary purpose of using web email which is access from any machine. Besides that, Gmail has

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Phratch 1.0beta

2013-12-17 Thread jannik.laval
Please, try it with Pharo2.0 for now. I will fix your bug soon. Janniik On Dec 17, 2013, at 6:51 PM, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: About the name, I was offering my personal opinion. In no way I am trying to persuade you to change the name. Unfortunately I am getting the exact

Re: [Pharo-dev] Please stop top posting... (was Re: Tell me about your workflow)

2013-12-17 Thread Frank Shearar
On 17 December 2013 16:42, Chris Muller asquea...@gmail.com wrote: If you use Gmail, doing the right thing is now _hard_. (It's a click-the-ellipsis, then a find-the-place-to-edit, then hit return to No need for the fine-motor click, just use right-arrow + Enter. How did you find that out?

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Phratch 1.0beta

2013-12-17 Thread jannik.laval
On Dec 17, 2013, at 10:22 PM, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: --- Please, try it with Pharo2.0 for now. I will fix your bug soon. Janniik - Yes I am already trying it with pharo 2 and it seems to work fine. Is there a way to trigger the world menu ?

Re: [Pharo-dev] Sprint friday :)

2013-12-17 Thread Serge Stinckwich
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Hi Pharoers we will have an official sprint friday and we have the following visitors - andrei chis, jan kurs from Berne - alain plantec from Brest - serge stinckwich from Caen

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Phratch 1.0beta

2013-12-17 Thread S Krish
Jannik, Just to let you know, I had loaded Phratch on Pharo 3.0 few days back and it worked fine at the basic levels. It did throw the an error dialog but continued to load and present the full screen of scratch. I will test it further as it progresses.. ( as someone else said, no harm moving

[Pharo-dev] inspect slices

2013-12-17 Thread Nicolai Hess
How can I find out the changes from a slice that is already included in the main image? For example, my current image is 30650. The slice for issue 12288 is in the main image since version 30611. I would like to see the changes from this slice for the image 30610. The issue description and the