Re: [Pharo-dev] About inspectors

2014-03-11 Thread Tudor Girba
Thank you. In this case yes, it blurs the line between an SQL Editor and the inspector. And between a table and an Excel code editor. But, here is another blurred line between the file browser and the inspector: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/browsing-files-with-gtinspector-video/ The

Re: [Pharo-dev] May I have a write permission to MetaRepoForPharo30?

2014-03-11 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Hi Attila, I added zeroflag as contributor. Feel free to upload your configs. Note that they require a #stable definition to work in config browser. (just have a look at the other configs) Thx T. Gesendet: Montag, 10. März 2014 um 21:47 Uhr Von: Attila Magyar m.magy...@gmail.com An:

Re: [Pharo-dev] About a Spec dedicated mailing-list

2014-03-11 Thread Torsten Bergmann
+1 Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. März 2014 um 03:46 Uhr Von: Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com An: Pharo Development List pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org Betreff: Re: [Pharo-dev] About a Spec dedicated mailing-list + 1 Le 10-03-2014 à 16:48, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu a écrit :

[Pharo-dev] Sort by property

2014-03-11 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
Hi guys. This is a thing that I encounter quite often. Eg I have a collection of projects and I want to sort them by creation date. It would be nice to be able to do something like: projects sortByProp: #creationDate or by birth date of the author projects sortByProp: [ :proj | proj author

[Pharo-dev] Bug in valueWithin:onTimeout: ?

2014-03-11 Thread Clément Bera
Hello guys, Yesterday I had this problem that at startup a pharo image has several process running at priority 40. The problem is that my tests (run from command line) trigger #valueWithin:onTimeout: and the protected block (the block calling #valueWithin:onTimeout:) would always timed out for

Re: [Pharo-dev] Sort by property

2014-03-11 Thread Camille Teruel
Hi Yuriy, I though the same. There is a similar situation with pluggable collections where you have to specify two blocks: one for the hash the other for equality. So you have to repeat three times the property you're interested in: PluggableSet new hashBlock: [ :each | each name hash

Re: [Pharo-dev] Sort by property

2014-03-11 Thread Clément Bera
Hello, [ Note: So in the default Pharo the method is named #sort: not #sortByProp: or #sortBy: but it's a detail ] I like this idea because I also have always the problem. So I would like to be able to do: projects sort: #creationDate The implementation would be, in a similar fashion to how

Re: [Pharo-dev] About a Spec dedicated mailing-list

2014-03-11 Thread Nicolai Hess
Are those +1 meant for yes a dedicated mailling list or for sven's I don't think that makes much sense comment ? even if you don't want to do something directly with spec (and so, you wouldn't follow that mailinglist), many changes done for spec have an influence on common tools or morphic

Re: [Pharo-dev] About inspectors

2014-03-11 Thread Guillermo Polito
Doru, for the DBXTalk inspector, maybe it is useful for you this package: http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~DBXTalk/DBXDatabaseModel/ That allows to retrieve database schema metadata in a polymorphic way :) On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Thank you.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Sort by property

2014-03-11 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
On 11 Mar 2014, at 10:19, Clément Bera bera.clem...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, [ Note: So in the default Pharo the method is named #sort: not #sortByProp: or #sortBy: but it's a detail ] Yes, my mistake, I was misguided by #isSortedBy: Now #sortByProp: is my own example method that accepts

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bug in valueWithin:onTimeout: ?

2014-03-11 Thread Stefan Marr
Hi Clément: On 11 Mar 2014, at 09:58, Clément Bera bera.clem...@gmail.com wrote: Yesterday I had this problem that at startup a pharo image has several process running at priority 40. The problem is that my tests (run from command line) trigger #valueWithin:onTimeout: and the protected

Re: [Pharo-dev] About inspectors

2014-03-11 Thread Tudor Girba
Thanks. I was looking for something like that! I will check it and get back to you. Doru On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com wrote: Doru, for the DBXTalk inspector, maybe it is useful for you this package:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Sort by property

2014-03-11 Thread Clément Bera
Hello, @Uko Well I implemented Symbolvalue:value: in a similar fashion than Symbolvalue: for 'aCollection collect: #aSymbol'. But that's not a perfect solution for sure. @Camille I used PluggableSet and PluggableDictionary in my project and they were so slow that in the end I implemented my

[Pharo-dev] Touch Events VM changes

2014-03-11 Thread J.F. Rick
As we move from mouse-keyboard devices to touch-based ones, it would be nice if we could unify touch development across the different Pharo platforms (iOS, Android, Windows 8, Linux, etc.), so that we can start to build touch-aware widgets and frameworks. Currently, there's a lot of interest but

Re: [Pharo-dev] Touch Events VM changes

2014-03-11 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Hi, I agree that we need a unified event model. Now… our vision is to solve that in image side, not in vm (and vm should send the raw events “as is”). The reason of why we want it in image is easy: image means pharo, and it means more hands (or eyes) over it. Then is easier to maintain :)

Re: [Pharo-dev] Touch Events VM changes

2014-03-11 Thread Sergi Reyner
2014-03-11 10:37 GMT+00:00 J.F. Rick s...@je77.com: As we move from mouse-keyboard devices to touch-based ones I certainly hope that we refers to a small group of people, unless we get onscreen keyboards as good as physical ones, feedback included. The same goes for touch versus physical

Re: [Pharo-dev] Touch Events VM changes

2014-03-11 Thread J.F. Rick
Definitely agreed on the strategy of processing the raw events on the image side as that will be much more flexible. But, we still need the VM to send the raw events. I'll check on the vm-dev list. I think I'm already subscribed to it. Cheers, Jeff On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Esteban

Re: [Pharo-dev] Touch Events VM changes

2014-03-11 Thread J.F. Rick
Hi Sergi, Based on my experience developing touch interfaces since 2007, I believe in touch. I believe it will be the future of interfaces and I believe it can be better than mouse-keyboard interfaces. That said, it is not there yet. Now is the time to innovate and get it there so that touch

[Pharo-dev] Access to MetaRepoForPharo30

2014-03-11 Thread Gabriel Cotelli
Hi guys, can you add me as a contributor to the MetaRepoForPharo30 project? My sthub user is gcotelli Gabriel

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-03-11 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/30793 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 8418a3: 30793

2014-03-11 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 8418a3fb5bba1056099d38b5e6759db327437dea https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/8418a3fb5bba1056099d38b5e6759db327437dea Author: Jenkins Build Server bo...@pharo-project.org Date:

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Tiling Window Manager in 3.0: working but still issues with WorldMorph

2014-03-11 Thread Laurent Laffont
Thanks a lot Phil. I will try to have a look. Laurent Le samedi 8 mars 2014, 11:57:30 p...@highoctane.be a écrit : TWM works in 3.0 after some work on icons and updating menus. Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'LaurentLaffont' project: 'TilingWindowManager'; configuration; load.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Touch Events VM changes

2014-03-11 Thread Igor Stasenko
Jeff, since you running linux you can look at what we have done with Ronie not long ago. Basically we changed VM and removed all window/event management code and instead do everything at image side. I think it would be good if you can try and add multi-touch events support to the code. If you

Re: [Pharo-dev] Touch Events VM changes

2014-03-11 Thread Sergi Reyner
2014-03-11 11:54 GMT+00:00 J.F. Rick s...@je77.com: Hi Sergi, Based on my experience developing touch interfaces since 2007, I believe in touch. Don´t get me wrong, I like touch and non-traditional interfaces in general. In fact there are five android devices at home, counting phones and

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] RenoirSt 1.0.0 Release for Pharo 3.0

2014-03-11 Thread Benjamin
The usage of Github pages makes it look like http://spec.st/ :P Ben On 11 Mar 2014, at 14:13, Gabriel Cotelli g.cote...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm announcing the first official release of RenoirSt, a DSL enabling programmatic cascading style sheet generation for Pharo. For the impatient,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Access to MetaRepoForPharo30

2014-03-11 Thread Damien Cassou
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Gabriel Cotelli g.cote...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, can you add me as a contributor to the MetaRepoForPharo30 project? My sthub user is gcotelli done -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st Success is the ability to go from one failure to

Re: [Pharo-dev] Access to MetaRepoForPharo30

2014-03-11 Thread Serge Stinckwich
Can you add me also ? Thank you. Regards, On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Gabriel Cotelli g.cote...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, can you add me as a contributor to the MetaRepoForPharo30 project? My sthub user is gcotelli Gabriel -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every

Re: [Pharo-dev] Access to MetaRepoForPharo30

2014-03-11 Thread Damien Cassou
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Serge Stinckwich serge.stinckw...@gmail.com wrote: Can you add me also ? done -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm. Winston Churchill

Re: [Pharo-dev] Sort by property

2014-03-11 Thread Alexandre Bergel
hi Uko, For Roassal, we have a #sortedAs: defined on all collections -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= SequenceableCollectionsortedAs: aSortBlockOrSymbol Answer a SortedCollection whose elements are the elements of the receiver. The sort order is defined by the argument,

Re: [Pharo-dev] how can I test soundplugin?

2014-03-11 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 11 Mar 2014, at 01:06, b...@openinworld.com wrote: J.F. Rick wrote: Yes, load PharoSound and do the following: SoundPlayer boinkScale. SoundService soundEnabled. SoundService registeredClasses. SoundService reset. BaseSoundSystem soundEnabled: true. SoundService default. ss :=

Re: [Pharo-dev] how can I test soundplugin?

2014-03-11 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
so… I tested this (in mac, still does not tried in other platforms). On 10 Mar 2014, at 19:33, J.F. Rick s...@je77.com wrote: Yes, load PharoSound and do the following: SoundPlayer boinkScale. SoundService soundEnabled. SoundService registeredClasses. SoundService reset. until here

Re: [Pharo-dev] About inspectors

2014-03-11 Thread Juan
Tudor Thanks for amazing work, just report a trouble , i follow the http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/dynamic-exploration-of-a-postgres-db-with-the-gtinspector/ Instructions and trying with one postgres database, one table with date fields fire problem's SqNumberParser class is missing in

Re: [Pharo-dev] About inspectors

2014-03-11 Thread Juan
Tudor what steps I need to follow to load the file-exploration example of video ? any ConfigurationOfxx . package, monticello repository etc... best jmdc On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Juan smalltalker.marc...@gmail.com wrote: Tudor Thanks for amazing work, just report a trouble , i

Re: [Pharo-dev] Sort by property

2014-03-11 Thread Eliot Miranda
Hi Alexandre, IMO the isKindOf:, apart from being ugly, will hurt performance badly. Why not apply aSortBlockOrSymbol to the first element and then choose the block appropriately? e.g. aSortBlockOrSymbol isSymbol ifTrue: [(#(true false) includes: (self first

Re: [Pharo-dev] About inspectors

2014-03-11 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Juan, Just download the latest Moose image and you can explore the file system. Cheers, Doru On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Juan smalltalker.marc...@gmail.com wrote: Tudor what steps I need to follow to load the file-exploration example of video ? any ConfigurationOfxx . package,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Sort by property

2014-03-11 Thread Eliot Miranda
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Alexandre, IMO the isKindOf:, apart from being ugly, will hurt performance badly. Why not apply aSortBlockOrSymbol to the first element and then choose the block appropriately? e.g.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Sort by property

2014-03-11 Thread Eliot Miranda
and here's one with a better comment that includes examples On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Alexandre, IMO the isKindOf:, apart from being ugly, will hurt performance badly. Why not apply aSortBlockOrSymbol to the first element and then

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Phratch one-click

2014-03-11 Thread jannik laval
Hi Hilaire, 2014-03-11 17:27 GMT+01:00 Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com: Hi Jannik, Don't use the change/update event mecanism. This mean a lot of changes in your model. Yes, this is what I understand :) In DrGeo I use a simple loop to update the sketch, but i guess it is

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] RenoirSt 1.0.0 Release for Pharo 3.0

2014-03-11 Thread Pharo4Stef
Gabriel your tutorial is really cool :) Stef On 11 Mar 2014, at 21:04, Pharo4Stef pharo4s...@free.fr wrote: Gabriel I would love to write a chapter based on your tutorial for the next book. Is it ok for you? I can do that during a boring meeting. :) Stef On 11 Mar 2014, at 14:13,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Sort by property

2014-03-11 Thread Pharo4Stef
Thanks eliot. On 11 Mar 2014, at 20:51, Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com wrote: and here's one with a better comment that includes examples On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alexandre, IMO the isKindOf:, apart from being

Re: [Pharo-dev] Sort by property

2014-03-11 Thread Carlo
HiSince Symbol and Blocks are polymorphic could we not simplify the code to be:SequenceableCollectionsortedAs: aSortBlockOrSymbol "Answer a SortedCollection whose elements are the elements of the receiver. The sort order is defined by the argument, aSortBlockOrSymbol. The receiver cannot be empty.

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] RenoirSt 1.0.0 Release for Pharo 3.0

2014-03-11 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Yes, there seems to be a hype of every improving documentation, blog posts, screen casts and so on. Could this be a sign of a maturing community ? Great work, Gabriel ! On 11 Mar 2014, at 22:06, Pharo4Stef pharo4s...@free.fr wrote: Gabriel your tutorial is really cool :) Stef On 11

Re: [Pharo-dev] Touch Events VM changes

2014-03-11 Thread p...@highoctane.be
I've got a Windows 8 laptop with a touch screen. So, I now have to look how the events are provided. Phil On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I agree that we need a unified event model. Now... our vision is to solve that in image side, not in

[Pharo-dev] Making Git and Pharo More Accessible

2014-03-11 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Two things: - Are the current git workflow options documented anywhere besides our mailing lists? If not, will someone who has been using Git successfully capture their process somewhere more permanent... - Can we (proverbially, not that I'm intending to help ;)) make a git-ready image on the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Touch Events VM changes

2014-03-11 Thread p...@highoctane.be
I have a pretty decent lineup of devices with touch. The interactions aren't the same on the iPhone as they are on a Galaxy SII phone, not are the same on iPads or on a Nexus7. Magic mouses are also special things. Also my Samsung Windows 8 laptop has a 10 points touch screen. With Windows8.1, I

Re: [Pharo-dev] Sort by property

2014-03-11 Thread Otto Behrens
Why do we need one method that takes either a block or symbol? SequenceableCollectionsortedAs: aSortBlockOrSymbol Perhaps sort: can take a block and sortedAs: a symbol?