Re: [Pharo-dev] Class vars and inst vars of a class

2014-03-20 Thread Nicolas Cellier
2014-03-20 8:43 GMT+01:00 Pharo4Stef pharo4s...@free.fr: On 20 Mar 2014, at 08:32, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: Thank you all for your replies. I would say, that Class Variable name is a bit misleading, but now I know what is going on behind it. :) Yes I would like to

Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo sound should be working

2014-03-20 Thread J.F. Rick
Any ideas of how to go forward? It seems to work for some people on Linux but not for me. Mine is Ubuntu 13.10 (64 bit). And I have all the libasound2 libraries installed. Cheers, Jeff On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 2:11 PM, J.F. Rick s...@je77.com wrote: I've tried the zeroconf script. It installs

Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo sound should be working

2014-03-20 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
the 32bits version of them? I can create a parallels image and try there… no promises :) Esteban On 20 Mar 2014, at 09:42, J.F. Rick s...@je77.com wrote: Any ideas of how to go forward? It seems to work for some people on Linux but not for me. Mine is Ubuntu 13.10 (64 bit). And I have all

Re: [Pharo-dev] Just found, i can compile this:

2014-03-20 Thread Christophe Demarey
Hi Eliot, Le 19 mars 2014 à 16:25, Eliot Miranda a écrit : Hi Christophe, On Mar 19, 2014, at 1:45 AM, Christophe Demarey christophe.dema...@inria.fr wrote: Le 18 mars 2014 à 19:50, Eliot Miranda a écrit : On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Christophe Demarey

Re: [Pharo-dev] keybindings problem?

2014-03-20 Thread Tudor Girba
We digged a bit more, and we think it's definitely a bug in Keymapping. The problem is made obvious by the global shortcuts recently introduced: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/d7ff3a9a65273292a764fc8e8012df07169acb4d Some shortcuts start with Cmd+o and add something else (for

Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo sound should be working

2014-03-20 Thread J.F. Rick
Some more information. SoundPlayer boinkScale works. FMSound does not work. When I try playing a sampled sound, I get the following message in the terminal: sound_Start(default) soundStart: snd_add_pcm_handler: Function not implemented It also crashes the VM. It seems like this is a know

Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo sound should be working

2014-03-20 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
yeah, I’m checking that… it is probably not fixable in the release time :( is because alsa and pulseaudio have incompatibilities and it breaks the ALSA based sound system… I do not have the time to write a pulse sound. anyway… what is weird is that it crashes your vm, because it does not do that

Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo sound should be working

2014-03-20 Thread J.F. Rick
Sometimes it doesn't crash it. So, I can attempt to play a sound multiple times without it crashing. But, then, after a little time, it crashes. Cheers, Jeff On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.comwrote: yeah, I'm checking that... it is probably not fixable in

Re: [Pharo-dev] keybindings problem?

2014-03-20 Thread Andrei Chis
And now there is a bug report https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/13102/Sequences-of-bindings-hide-individual-bindings On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: We digged a bit more, and we think it's definitely a bug in Keymapping. The problem is made obvious

Re: [Pharo-dev] keybindings problem?

2014-03-20 Thread Tudor Girba
Thanks. Doru On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Andrei Chis chisvasileand...@gmail.comwrote: And now there is a bug report https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/13102/Sequences-of-bindings-hide-individual-bindings On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.comwrote: We

Re: [Pharo-dev] FileSystem-Git status update 2

2014-03-20 Thread Tudor Girba
So am I :). Doru On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.comwrote: Max Leske wrote rewriting our tests with SUnit, moving away from Phexample (for several reasons) I'm curious about those reasons... - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context:

Re: [Pharo-dev] EyeTreeInspector - Simple Mode?

2014-03-20 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote please make sure you use the very latest image Yes, usually if you're annoyed enough to complain about something, I already complained enough to get Sven to fix it, ha ha ;) - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context:

Re: [Pharo-dev] FileSystem-Git status update 2

2014-03-20 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 20 Mar 2014, at 14:33, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Max Leske wrote rewriting our tests with SUnit, moving away from Phexample (for several reasons) I'm curious about those reasons… I don’t know Max reasons, but I can give you mine: FSGit based on libgit2 will be a

Re: [Pharo-dev] FileSystem-Git status update 2

2014-03-20 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
On Mar 20, 2014, at 9:43 AM, EstebanLM [via Smalltalk] ml-node+s1294792n4749977...@n4.nabble.com wrote: phexample will not… be a part of the system I’d love to standardize on a cutting edge testing framework. There have been so many great ideas (think ruby rspec) in recent times. Right now we

Re: [Pharo-dev] Couchbase client

2014-03-20 Thread Benjamin Pollack
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014, at 07:06 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: I don't know the exact difference between the clients of Couchbase and CouchDB. I know Couchbase forked from CouchDB, and the REST API is the same. Hopefully the CouchDB client will work. It probably won't. Couchbase's protocol

Re: [Pharo-dev] Class vars and inst vars of a class

2014-03-20 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Uko2 wrote what is the difference between the class variable... pharo-us...@lists.pharo.org is a better place to ask questions like this, so that they do not get missed amongst the dev threads, and to give the devs' inboxes a break. - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Phexample / new test framework (was: FileSystem-Git status update 2)

2014-03-20 Thread Max Leske
On 20.03.2014, at 14:33, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Max Leske wrote rewriting our tests with SUnit, moving away from Phexample (for several reasons) I'm curious about those reasons… I think that Phexample is pretty cool and I enjoyed writing tests with it (yes, devs

[Pharo-dev] Nautilus keyboard behavior

2014-03-20 Thread Stephan Eggermont
13100 triggered me to take a look at keyboard based navigation in Nautilus. These should probably be a number of different issues. There seems to be no way to get from the text pane back to methods-categories-classes-packages , both tab and right-arrow are captured. How do I open the menu on

Re: [Pharo-dev] Voyage cannot be load

2014-03-20 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
is not a problem of voyage. Is a problem in grease or magritte :P I will check it… but this kind of problems arise time to time and I’m frankly a bit fed up of them :( complex system dependencies are often not well managed and metacello is not really good at deciding versions or reporting

Re: [Pharo-dev] Voyage cannot be load

2014-03-20 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
This is the second report of Grease-Pharo20-Core not loading properly, I believe it might have something to do with an error that was made with a Seaside configuration, see the Seaside mailing list (but there are no details there, apart from the fact that an existing version was changed) On 20

Re: [Pharo-dev] Voyage cannot be load

2014-03-20 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 20.03.2014 um 16:06 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com: is not a problem of voyage. Is a problem in grease or magritte :P I know. But what do you think is the cheapest way to get your attention? :P I will check it… but this kind of problems arise time to time and I’m frankly

Re: [Pharo-dev] Voyage cannot be load

2014-03-20 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Mongotalk configuration is not Pharo 3 compatible

[Pharo-dev] SmalllineManifestCheckerTest class DoIt

2014-03-20 Thread Ben Coman
Can anyone tell me how the following fits into the system? SmalllineManifestCheckerTest class DoIt ^ MCWorkingCopy managersForClass: MFClassA do: [:p | ^ p first] Its currently unclassified and I need to fix that to submit a slice that otherwise doesn't touch this. cheers

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus keyboard behavior

2014-03-20 Thread Benjamin
On 20 Mar 2014, at 15:48, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote: 13100 triggered me to take a look at keyboard based navigation in Nautilus. These should probably be a number of different issues. There seems to be no way to get from the text pane back to

Re: [Pharo-dev] Voyage cannot be load

2014-03-20 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Mmm… I’m loading it without problems. At least it was compatible until last week. Esteban On 20 Mar 2014, at 16:26, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote: Mongotalk configuration is not Pharo 3 compatible

Re: [Pharo-dev] SmalllineManifestCheckerTest class DoIt

2014-03-20 Thread Marcus Denker
On 20 Mar 2014, at 16:27, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: Can anyone tell me how the following fits into the system? SmalllineManifestCheckerTest class DoIt ^ MCWorkingCopy managersForClass: MFClassA do: [:p | ^ p first] Its currently unclassified and I need to fix

Re: [Pharo-dev] Voyage cannot be load

2014-03-20 Thread Johan Brichau
Norbert, From your screenshot, I see that the Grease package you have loaded in your image is dirty. It is also the package version that gets loaded with Grease 1.1.5. My first question is: why is it dirty? Can you check that? The package version you are loading is the one that is referenced

Re: [Pharo-dev] Voyage cannot be load

2014-03-20 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 20.03.2014 um 16:39 schrieb Johan Brichau jo...@inceptive.be: Norbert, From your screenshot, I see that the Grease package you have loaded in your image is dirty. It is also the package version that gets loaded with Grease 1.1.5. My first question is: why is it dirty? Can you check

Re: [Pharo-dev] Voyage cannot be load

2014-03-20 Thread Johan Brichau
I can reproduce the problem. For some strange reason, first Grease 1.1.5 is loaded and then 1.1.6 is loaded (in the same metacello load of VoyageMongo). The package becomes dirty because some classes changed from the Pharo20 package in 1.1.5 to the Core package in 1.1.6. Because Metacello

Re: [Pharo-dev] Just found, i can compile this:

2014-03-20 Thread Eliot Miranda
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:03 AM, Christophe Demarey christophe.dema...@inria.fr wrote: Hi Eliot, Le 19 mars 2014 à 16:25, Eliot Miranda a écrit : Hi Christophe, On Mar 19, 2014, at 1:45 AM, Christophe Demarey christophe.dema...@inria.fr wrote: Le 18 mars 2014 à 19:50, Eliot Miranda a

Re: [Pharo-dev] Voyage cannot be load

2014-03-20 Thread Norbert Hartl
Ok, I can load my own project now when I exchange the grease reference from 1.1.5 to stable. After a hint from Stephan Eggermont I changed the mongotalk build to include the right repo for grease. So this mismatch should have been gone. While I’m able to build my own project I still cannot

Re: [Pharo-dev] Voyage cannot be load

2014-03-20 Thread Johan Brichau
Found it: Magritte3 references Grease1.1.5 explicitly MongoTalk references Grease #stable Looks more like a Metacello bug to me... there clearly is a load conflict and Metacello should decide on a version rather than load them both sequentially. But I have not looked any deeper Johan On

[Pharo-dev] CFP: COP Workshop at ECOOP'14

2014-03-20 Thread Marcus Denker
[Please accept our apologies if you receive multiple copies of this call] = Call for Papers COP'14 Sixth International Workshop on Context-Oriented Programming

Re: [Pharo-dev] Just found, i can compile this:

2014-03-20 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 20 March 2014 17:04, Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:03 AM, Christophe Demarey christophe.dema...@inria.fr wrote: Hi Eliot, Le 19 mars 2014 à 16:25, Eliot Miranda a écrit : Hi Christophe, On Mar 19, 2014, at 1:45 AM, Christophe Demarey

[Pharo-dev] Morph class announcer. Huh?

2014-03-20 Thread Igor Stasenko
Morph class instanceVariableNames: 'announcer' announcer ^ announcer ifNil: [ announcer := Announcer new ]. say wht? -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Re: [Pharo-dev] List editor spec widget

2014-03-20 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
On 16 Mar 2014, at 00:37, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: On 15 Mar 2014, at 22:39, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: Hi everyone. I wander if there is already something like the list editing buttons in OS X i.e. ‘+’ and ‘-‘ buttons that either open a dialog

Re: [Pharo-dev] List editor spec widget

2014-03-20 Thread Benjamin
On 20 Mar 2014, at 18:13, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: Should this be an extension of List with buttons, of a buttons widget that has a setters for the list to modify and the block for retrieving the rest of items (during the addition action) Sorry I do not understand your

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-03-20 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/30799 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] b19759: 30799

2014-03-20 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: b197590350c1c7da5d6fdaf181ff7cdc9e8be4e6 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/b197590350c1c7da5d6fdaf181ff7cdc9e8be4e6 Author: Jenkins Build Server bo...@pharo-project.org Date:

Re: [Pharo-dev] List editor spec widget

2014-03-20 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
On 20 Mar 2014, at 18:20, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 Mar 2014, at 18:13, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: Should this be an extension of List with buttons, of a buttons widget that has a setters for the list to modify and the block for retrieving

Re: [Pharo-dev] List editor spec widget

2014-03-20 Thread Christophe Demarey
Hello Did you check EditableList? Le 20 mars 2014 à 18:20, Benjamin a écrit : On 20 Mar 2014, at 18:13, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: Should this be an extension of List with buttons, of a buttons widget that has a setters for the list to modify and the block for retrieving

Re: [Pharo-dev] List editor spec widget

2014-03-20 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
Oh wow. No. Thank you Christophe! I’ll try it out. Uko On 20 Mar 2014, at 18:29, Christophe Demarey christophe.dema...@inria.fr wrote: Hello Did you check EditableList? Le 20 mars 2014 à 18:20, Benjamin a écrit : On 20 Mar 2014, at 18:13, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote:

[Pharo-dev] Check if CompiledMethod sends to self

2014-03-20 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
Hi everyone. I need to check if a method sends anything to self. There is a method #sendsToSuper, but I don’t really know how can I search for self reference in a same way. Can anybody suggest me where can I learn this? Cheers. Uko

Re: [Pharo-dev] Check if CompiledMethod sends to self

2014-03-20 Thread Eliot Miranda
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.comwrote: Hi everyone. I need to check if a method sends anything to self. There is a method #sendsToSuper, but I don't really know how can I search for self reference in a same way. Can anybody suggest me where can I learn

Re: [Pharo-dev] Check if CompiledMethod sends to self

2014-03-20 Thread Benjamin
On 20 Mar 2014, at 18:45, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: Hi everyone. I need to check if a method sends anything to self. There is a method #sendsToSuper, but I don’t really know how can I search for self reference in a same way. Can anybody suggest me where can I learn this?

Re: [Pharo-dev] Weird indenting with #with:

2014-03-20 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
I do not understand what your problem is. If is bad indented, you can always reformat. Source formatting is not pharo responsibility but the programmer (unless you use pretty printer, which is not the case). cheers, Esteban On 20 Mar 2014, at 18:49, Sergi Reyner sergi.rey...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Weird indenting with #with:

2014-03-20 Thread Sergi Reyner
2014-03-20 19:23 GMT+00:00 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com: I do not understand what your problem is. If is bad indented, you can always reformat. Source formatting is not pharo responsibility but the programmer (unless you use pretty printer, which is not the case). Well, that´s not

Re: [Pharo-dev] Weird indenting with #with:

2014-03-20 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 20 Mar 2014, at 20:30, Sergi Reyner sergi.rey...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-03-20 19:23 GMT+00:00 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com: I do not understand what your problem is. If is bad indented, you can always reformat. Source formatting is not pharo responsibility but the programmer

Re: [Pharo-dev] Weird indenting with #with:

2014-03-20 Thread Camille Teruel
On 20 mars 2014, at 20:30, Sergi Reyner sergi.rey...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-03-20 19:23 GMT+00:00 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com: I do not understand what your problem is. If is bad indented, you can always reformat. Source formatting is not pharo responsibility but the programmer

Re: [Pharo-dev] Weird indenting with #with:

2014-03-20 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
I have been using the auto formatter with Seaside rendering code too, and I found it weird at times as well. The problem seems to be related to blocks. It is of course hard to argue with something automatic that is quite complex and over which there are many opinions. I have basically given up

Re: [Pharo-dev] Weird indenting with #with:

2014-03-20 Thread Sergi Reyner
2014-03-20 19:38 GMT+00:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu: I have been using the auto formatter with Seaside rendering code too, and I found it weird at times as well. The problem seems to be related to blocks. It is of course hard to argue with something automatic that is quite complex

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus keyboard behavior

2014-03-20 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Ben wrote in response to my questions cmd+crt+left/right arrow Ah thank you. That works to switch back all the way to the package pane. The package pane captures cmd+ctrl+left arrow and translates it into up on the selection. How do I open the menu on one of the top panes in Nautilus? Do you

[Pharo-dev] Pharo on Debian 7

2014-03-20 Thread jannik laval
Hi, I tried to load Pharo portable on a Debian. It seems to not work. Anyone can confirm that this is not my config that is broken ? Cheers, -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus keyboard behavior

2014-03-20 Thread Benjamin
On 20 Mar 2014, at 21:38, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote: That doesn’t work for me. (Mavericks mac, 30798 with slice 13100) I will have a look then :) Ah found them. cmd-t-g cmd-t-p cmd-t-h Let me rephrase that: can we have a way to discover that? Perhaps info on hover or so?

Re: [Pharo-dev] Weird indenting with #with:

2014-03-20 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Thanks, it makes a difference indeed, but it does not yet quite solve it. I would want the contents of the #with: block to be treated the same as for example inside an #ifTrue:ifFalse: with just one tab (level) more. I just don't understand why it is different. On 20 Mar 2014, at 20:47, Sergi

Re: [Pharo-dev] Weird indenting with #with:

2014-03-20 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 20 Mar 2014, at 20:37, Camille Teruel camille.ter...@gmail.com wrote: No that's definitively a bug. It seems to happen to blocks that are arguments in cascaded messages. Ah, that makes some sense. Next question: can we fix it ;-)

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Tiling Window Manager in 3.0: working but still issues with WorldMorph

2014-03-20 Thread Laurent Laffont
Done Laurent Le mercredi 19 mars 2014, 17:23:06 p...@highoctane.be a écrit : Would you mind putting the configuration in the 3.0 Metarepo? Phil On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Laurent Laffont laurent.laff...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Phil, with latest ConfigurationOfTilingWindow

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo on Debian 7

2014-03-20 Thread Sergi Reyner
2014-03-20 20:45 GMT+00:00 jannik laval jannik.la...@gmail.com: Hi, I tried to load Pharo portable on a Debian. It seems to not work. Anyone can confirm that this is not my config that is broken ? Debian has an older libc than what the pharo binary links to (the Ubuntu one, I guess). Or at

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo on Debian 7

2014-03-20 Thread jannik laval
Ok, any solution ? or deb package ? Cheers, Jannik 2014-03-20 22:07 GMT+01:00 Sergi Reyner sergi.rey...@gmail.com: 2014-03-20 20:45 GMT+00:00 jannik laval jannik.la...@gmail.com: Hi, I tried to load Pharo portable on a Debian. It seems to not work. Anyone can confirm that this is not my

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo on Debian 7

2014-03-20 Thread Sergi Reyner
2014-03-20 21:16 GMT+00:00 jannik laval jannik.la...@gmail.com: Ok, any solution ? or deb package ? Cheers, Jannik I can think of a number of ugly workarounds that defeat the purpose of having a portable package in the first place. Debian was my first choice for my VPS, but I ended up

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo on Debian 7

2014-03-20 Thread p...@highoctane.be
On my blog http://philippeback.be Works with some tweaks. Le 20 mars 2014 21:49, jannik laval jannik.la...@gmail.com a écrit : Hi, I tried to load Pharo portable on a Debian. It seems to not work. Anyone can confirm that this is not my config that is broken ? Cheers, -- ~~Jannik

[Pharo-dev] pharo on Debian

2014-03-20 Thread Ralph Boland
On Debian I can install Squeak vis-a-vis apt-get install squeak. But I cannot do this for Pharo with Debian 7.0. Would it be a good idea to get this to work for Debian 8.0? Ralph Boland