Re: [Pharo-dev] Pulling Web XML data into spreadsheet

2017-10-06 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Ben Coman wrote > > Unfortunately due to IT lock down I cannot use Pharo at work, > > Not even off a jump drive? Nope. You prompted me to try once again ==> This program is blocked by group policy. For more

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pulling Web XML data into spreadsheet

2017-10-06 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Ben Coman wrote > Unfortunately due to IT lock down I cannot use Pharo at work, Not even off a jump drive? - Cheers, Sean -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Developers-f1294837.html

[Pharo-dev] Swimming with the fish imagery

2017-10-06 Thread Ben Coman
"Swimming with the fish" is a catchy phrase that I like which seems to encompass the strength of Pharo's tight development feedback loop that comes from operating in a world of live objects. I had some imagery floating through my head on this I thought worth sharing. Only time for a quick dump,

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] ZnClient in Pharo 6.1 not working for Https on Windows

2017-10-06 Thread Ben Coman
First pass approximation... * https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wdsi/filesubmission * https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/protect/forum/all/windows-defender-win-864-bit-false-positive/4a8013bd-db45-4c98-988e-f5fa6dcb648a?auth=1 cheers -ben On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 12:54 AM, Cyril Ferlicot D.

[Pharo-dev] Pulling Web XML data into spreadsheet

2017-10-06 Thread Ben Coman
Unfortunately due to IT lock down I cannot use Pharo at work, but the first 1:30 of video [1] demonstrates a nice use case to aim for DataFrame + FastTable. Similar functionality in Pharo would make a compelling video, to the degree it may even be worthwhile including this out-of-the-box to make a

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Iceberg 0.6 released

2017-10-06 Thread Cyril Ferlicot D.
Le 07/10/2017 à 00:34, Cyril Ferlicot D. a écrit : > Le 06/10/2017 à 21:56, Mariano Martinez Peck a écrit : >> >> Weird that package is not being loaded...  sure I can explicitly >> load it ... but I think we must fix the baseline... but the baseline >> looks correct doesnt it ? I don't

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Iceberg 0.6 released

2017-10-06 Thread Cyril Ferlicot D.
Le 06/10/2017 à 21:56, Mariano Martinez Peck a écrit : > > Weird that package is not being loaded...  sure I can explicitly > load it ... but I think we must fix the baseline... but the baseline > looks correct doesnt it ? I don't understand. > >   I think I found the way to correct this

Re: [Pharo-dev] Reproducible VM Crash using UFFI

2017-10-06 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
2017-10-06 2:39 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe : > > >> On 6 Oct 2017, at 05:34, Hernán Morales Durand >> wrote: >> >> Hi Nicolas >> >> 2017-10-05 16:04 GMT-03:00 Nicolas Cellier >> : >>> >>> >>> 2017-10-05 15:42

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Iceberg 0.6 released

2017-10-06 Thread Cyril Ferlicot D.
Le 06/10/2017 à 23:34, Tim Mackinnon a écrit : > Gosh - It actually work quite well to be able to easily browse code > online in a more traditional format of seeing an entire class. Hopefully > this leads to us being able to share solutions to common language > agnostic problems. > > One small

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Iceberg 0.6 released

2017-10-06 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Gosh - It actually work quite well to be able to easily browse code online in a more traditional format of seeing an entire class. Hopefully this leads to us being able to share solutions to common language agnostic problems. One small observation - I quickly grok’d the use of class { …. }

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] ZnClient in Pharo 6.1 not working for Https on Windows

2017-10-06 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Can we not contact the windows defender team and find a way to improve their detection? Presumably the signature they are finding is not good enough? Doesn’t one of the Dolphin guys work at MS - or does someone in our network have a contact? Tim > On 6 Oct 2017, at 17:54, Cyril Ferlicot D.

Re: [Pharo-dev] State of files.pharo.org

2017-10-06 Thread Christophe Demarey
Thanks a lot for the data. Christophe > Le 6 oct. 2017 à 17:13, Gabriel Cotelli a écrit : > > I've added my testing info in the shared notepad. The download of > Pharo6.0-linux.zip took 11m 33s on a 30Mbps connection (I've looked while it > was downloading and for the

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Iceberg 0.6 released

2017-10-06 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 4:46 PM, Cyril Ferlicot D. wrote: > Le 06/10/2017 à 21:38, Cyril Ferlicot D. a écrit : > > Le 06/10/2017 à 21:34, Mariano Martinez Peck a écrit : > >> I followed the instructions to update Iceberg from in a 6.1 image. When > >> I tried to clone

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Iceberg 0.6 released

2017-10-06 Thread Cyril Ferlicot D.
Le 06/10/2017 à 21:34, Mariano Martinez Peck a écrit : > I followed the instructions to update Iceberg from in a 6.1 image. When > I tried to clone the repository, I have the attached error (DNU on > #dangerTextColor). I workedaround that by doing: > > IceAbstractModel >> colorError > ^ Color red

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Iceberg 0.6 released

2017-10-06 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi gabriel I think so because this is important for many people. Stef On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Gabriel Cotelli wrote: > Will it be also integrated on Pharo 6.1? > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Esteban Lorenzano > wrote: >> >> >> On 6 Oct

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] OSSubprocess Bugfix and enhancements release

2017-10-06 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Tx you both this is super cool because we really need a strong process integration. **THANKS** I love to be lucky to work with a smart and cool community. On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 8:49 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Dear all, > > I have just released a new bugfix and

[Pharo-dev] [ANN] OSSubprocess Bugfix and enhancements release

2017-10-06 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Dear all, I have just released a new bugfix and enhancements release v0.2.5 for OSSubprocess as you can see in [1]. This new release is thanks to the awesome work of Guillermo Polito [2]. He found a problem (and a fix) that would hung/block the Pharo image in a wait state. This problem has been

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Iceberg 0.6 released

2017-10-06 Thread Gabriel Cotelli
Will it be also integrated on Pharo 6.1? On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > On 6 Oct 2017, at 20:08, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > > On 6 Oct 2017, at 20:05, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > > Hi esteban > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Iceberg 0.6 released

2017-10-06 Thread Tudor Girba
Great work! I am looking forward for the integration. Doru > On Oct 6, 2017, at 7:18 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > Hi all, > > I released Iceberg version 0.6. It includes a lot of small tweaks and fixes, > but the most important inclusion is tonel file format which

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Iceberg 0.6 released

2017-10-06 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
> On 6 Oct 2017, at 20:08, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > >> On 6 Oct 2017, at 20:05, Stephane Ducasse > > wrote: >> >> Hi esteban >> >> I did not find the script that you mentioned. > > the one for filetree to

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Iceberg 0.6 released

2017-10-06 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
> On 6 Oct 2017, at 20:05, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > > Hi esteban > > I did not find the script that you mentioned. the one for filetree to tonel? https://github.com/pharo-vcs/tonel/blob/master/MigrateFromFileTree.md

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Iceberg 0.6 released

2017-10-06 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi esteban I did not find the script that you mentioned. Stef On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 7:18 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Hi all, > > I released Iceberg version 0.6. It includes a lot of small tweaks and fixes, > but the most important inclusion is tonel file format which

[Pharo-dev] [ANN] Iceberg 0.6 released

2017-10-06 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Hi all, I released Iceberg version 0.6. It includes a lot of small tweaks and fixes, but the most important inclusion is tonel file format which aims to replace file tree. What is Tonel? (https://github.com/pharo-vcs/tonel ) Tonel is a file-per-class file

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] ZnClient in Pharo 6.1 not working for Https on Windows

2017-10-06 Thread Cyril Ferlicot D.
Le 06/10/2017 à 18:32, Stephane Ducasse a écrit : > both now I do not see what we can do if a third party tools consider > that we are a virus. > > Done. I don't know how to not be detected but Windows Defender is the default anti-virus on windows. The majority of windows user use it now. If

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] ZnClient in Pharo 6.1 not working for Https on Windows

2017-10-06 Thread Stephane Ducasse
both now I do not see what we can do if a third party tools consider that we are a virus. On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 6:09 PM, Cyril Ferlicot D. wrote: > Le 06/10/2017 à 13:02, kmo a écrit : >> I was trying to Soup on Windows 7 and found I could not access https sites >> >>

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] ZnClient in Pharo 6.1 not working for Https on Windows

2017-10-06 Thread Cyril Ferlicot D.
Le 06/10/2017 à 13:02, kmo a écrit : > I was trying to Soup on Windows 7 and found I could not access https sites > > On windows 7 and 10 the following code fails: > > ZnEasy get:'https://genius.com/Alice-nuvole-lyrics'. > > This works fine in Pharo 5 on Windows. Also works fine with Pharo 6.1

Re: [Pharo-dev] State of files.pharo.org

2017-10-06 Thread Gabriel Cotelli
I've added my testing info in the shared notepad. The download of Pharo6.0-linux.zip took 11m 33s on a 30Mbps connection (I've looked while it was downloading and for the first half it was downloading at 40/50 Kbs), so I think it's representative of the slowness we get. As I previously said it's

Re: [Pharo-dev] Never-ending computations and cmd-dot

2017-10-06 Thread Guillermo Polito
On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.mora...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Guille > > 2017-10-03 9:15 GMT-03:00 Guillermo Polito : > >> I've been bitten by this dozens of times. >> >> The problem seems to be that a second UI process is created and

Re: [Pharo-dev] Never-ending computations and cmd-dot

2017-10-06 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
Hi Guille 2017-10-03 9:15 GMT-03:00 Guillermo Polito : > I've been bitten by this dozens of times. > > The problem seems to be that a second UI process is created and thus the > DNU exception is automatically resumed (indefinitely). Executing the > following expression

[Pharo-dev] [Pharo 7.0-dev] Build #172: 20494-update-Epicea-to-version-8-2-5

2017-10-06 Thread ci-pharo-ci-jenkins2
There is a new Pharo build available! The status of the build #172 was: SUCCESS. The Pull Request #332 was integrated: "20494-update-Epicea-to-version-8-2-5" Pull request url: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/332 Issue Url: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20494 Build Url:

[Pharo-dev] [Pharo 7.0-dev] Build #171: 20309 - Startup should run always in a fresh process

2017-10-06 Thread ci-pharo-ci-jenkins2
There is a new Pharo build available! The status of the build #171 was: SUCCESS. The Pull Request #198 was integrated: "20309 - Startup should run always in a fresh process" Pull request url: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/198 Issue Url:

Re: [Pharo-dev] State of files.pharo.org

2017-10-06 Thread Christophe Demarey
Hello, I just finished the meeting with a guy from Inria datacenter. From Inria, we do not see any problem with files.pharo.org. We do not have tools ready to simulate poor networks nor remote network sensors available :( That’s why if some of you could help to collect some data to guess what

Re: [Pharo-dev] State of files.pharo.org

2017-10-06 Thread Ben Coman
Often the problem is not that they cannot find a reason why, but before that, they cannot even see it, i.e. they can't put the hands around it. Its human nature that we deal with the world through our own experiences. If a problem can't be seen, how can it be solved. Without know what actions

[Pharo-dev] [Ann] PharoLauncher v1.0.1 released!

2017-10-06 Thread Christophe Demarey
Hi all, I just released a new version of the PharoLauncher 1.0.1. Here are major improvements since last version: Pharo launcher is now distributed with a Pharo 60 image with a 32-bits threaded VM (to avoid hangs when using OSProcess). Add a VM management utility able to find (and download) the

[Pharo-dev] [Pharo 7.0-dev] Build #169: 20491-Epica-recovery-dialog-always-on-the-image-start-up

2017-10-06 Thread ci-pharo-ci-jenkins2
There is a new Pharo build available! The status of the build #169 was: SUCCESS. The Pull Request #331 was integrated: "20491-Epica-recovery-dialog-always-on-the-image-start-up" Pull request url: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/331 Issue Url:

[Pharo-dev] [Pharo 7.0-dev] Build #170: 20480-Runable-Example-label-is-mis-spelled

2017-10-06 Thread ci-pharo-ci-jenkins2
There is a new Pharo build available! The status of the build #170 was: SUCCESS. The Pull Request #333 was integrated: "20480-Runable-Example-label-is-mis-spelled" Pull request url: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/333 Issue Url: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20480 Build

Re: [Pharo-dev] State of files.pharo.org

2017-10-06 Thread Norbert Hartl
We have to circumvent the DevOp mental model :) From their point of view it goes like this "I cannot find a reason why it shouldn't work….so it should. Ticket closed!" Just ignoring the little effect THAT.IT.DOES.NOT.WORK Same story everywhere :) Norbert > Am 06.10.2017 um 10:01 schrieb

Re: [Pharo-dev] State of files.pharo.org

2017-10-06 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Thanks Christophe because Peter reported the same when I visiting him and this is slowly killing us. On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Christophe Demarey wrote: > > Le 5 oct. 2017 à 13:50, Marcus Denker a écrit : > > > > On 5 Oct 2017, at