Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 7 and changes/sources files

2017-06-10 Thread Stephane Ducasse
This is excellent to get the bootstrap in production.!! On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 10:01 AM, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > Hi, > > because during the image bootstrapping all source code is reloaded, it is > all placed in the changes file

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 7 and changes/sources files

2017-06-10 Thread Stephane Ducasse
+ 1 :) It is just a file and this is only for the development of Pharo and for users of Pharo 70 it will be exactly the same. Let us focus on the place where we can get a good impact/ratio/plus for business/plus for innovation. I have a lot of dreams for Pharo: from the coffee machine to the big

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 7 and changes/sources files

2017-06-09 Thread Eliot Miranda
Hi Yiury, On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 5:51 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote: > Why cannot we have the sources in the image? > > When I asked it 2 years ago people were like: "oh, but you can just > download 1 sources file and use it by all the images". I don’t care about > that micro

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 7 and changes/sources files

2017-06-09 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 10:01 PM, K K Subbu wrote: > On Friday 09 June 2017 06:38 PM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk > When I asked it 2 years ago people were like: "oh, but you can just >> download 1

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 7 and changes/sources files

2017-06-09 Thread Yanni Chiu
On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk > wrote: > >> Why cannot we have the sources in the image? >> > >> We can, but that's something that requires changing lot's of things >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 7 and changes/sources files

2017-06-09 Thread K K Subbu
On Friday 09 June 2017 06:38 PM, Guillermo Polito wrote: On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 7 and changes/sources files

2017-06-09 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
Aha, good to know! > On 9 Jun 2017, at 14:57, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > > We plan to change the sources management. But not immediately. > > -- Pavel > > 2017-06-09 14:51 GMT+02:00 Yuriy Tymchuk >: > Why cannot we

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 7 and changes/sources files

2017-06-09 Thread Guillermo Polito
On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote: > Why cannot we have the sources in the image? > > When I asked it 2 years ago people were like: "oh, but you can just > download 1 sources file and use it by all the images". I don’t care about > that micro space

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 7 and changes/sources files

2017-06-09 Thread Pavel Krivanek
We plan to change the sources management. But not immediately. -- Pavel 2017-06-09 14:51 GMT+02:00 Yuriy Tymchuk : > Why cannot we have the sources in the image? > > When I asked it 2 years ago people were like: "oh, but you can just > download 1 sources file and use it by

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 7 and changes/sources files

2017-06-09 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
Why cannot we have the sources in the image? When I asked it 2 years ago people were like: "oh, but you can just download 1 sources file and use it by all the images". I don’t care about that micro space savings, but fine, I said: have it your way. Now as we have to download sources all the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 7 and changes/sources files

2017-06-09 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > Hi, > > because during the image bootstrapping all source code is reloaded, it is > all placed in the changes file and the sources file is useless. It would be > strange to deliver Pharo with empty sources file and

[Pharo-dev] Pharo 7 and changes/sources files

2017-06-09 Thread Pavel Krivanek
Hi, because during the image bootstrapping all source code is reloaded, it is all placed in the changes file and the sources file is useless. It would be strange to deliver Pharo with empty sources file and big changes so we decided to do sources compacting for every build. So Pharo 7