Re: [Pharo-dev] ShortRunArray not in Pharo 3.0 anymore, leading to problems with FFI-Kernel-tbn.25

2013-10-10 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
philippeback wrote It is too complex for me to get things loaded in 3.0 and be delivering what we need to, so I am back to 2.0 now. I think that's the right decision even if you could get it loaded. I wouldn't deploy on a beta version of Pharo (no matter how tempting all the cool new features

Re: [Pharo-dev] ShortRunArray not in Pharo 3.0 anymore, leading to problems with FFI-Kernel-tbn.25

2013-10-10 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Oct 10, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: philippeback wrote It is too complex for me to get things loaded in 3.0 and be delivering what we need to, so I am back to 2.0 now. I think that's the right decision even if you could get it loaded. I wouldn't

Re: [Pharo-dev] ShortRunArray not in Pharo 3.0 anymore, leading to problems with FFI-Kernel-tbn.25

2013-10-10 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
yes, and we encourage people to try their stuff in Pharo3, to provide feedback, etc. bet definitively not for putting anything on production on it :) Esteban On Oct 10, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: philippeback wrote It is too complex for me to get things

[Pharo-dev] ShortRunArray not in Pharo 3.0 anymore, leading to problems with FFI-Kernel-tbn.25

2013-10-09 Thread p...@highoctane.be
There is an ExternalObject class initialize that attemps to place itself after ShortRunArray, which isn't there, leasgin to Error: nil cannot be found in Smalltalk dictionary. Just to let you know, (Was testing the loading of my confs in 3.0 with the 2.0 monticello trick. Phil

Re: [Pharo-dev] ShortRunArray not in Pharo 3.0 anymore, leading to problems with FFI-Kernel-tbn.25

2013-10-09 Thread Marcus Denker
On Oct 9, 2013, at 3:22 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: There is an ExternalObject class initialize that attemps to place itself after ShortRunArray, which isn't there, leasgin to Error: nil cannot be found in Smalltalk dictionary. Just to let you know, Do we support non-nativeBoost FFI

Re: [Pharo-dev] ShortRunArray not in Pharo 3.0 anymore, leading to problems with FFI-Kernel-tbn.25

2013-10-09 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Dunno but OpenDBX uses FFI. No databases, well,... On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.frwrote: On Oct 9, 2013, at 3:22 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: There is an ExternalObject class initialize that attemps to place itself after ShortRunArray, which isn't

Re: [Pharo-dev] ShortRunArray not in Pharo 3.0 anymore, leading to problems with FFI-Kernel-tbn.25

2013-10-09 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On Oct 9, 2013, at 3:30 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On Oct 9, 2013, at 3:22 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: There is an ExternalObject class initialize that attemps to place itself after ShortRunArray, which isn't there, leasgin to Error: nil cannot be found in

Re: [Pharo-dev] ShortRunArray not in Pharo 3.0 anymore, leading to problems with FFI-Kernel-tbn.25

2013-10-09 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Snashotcello not loading in 3.0 as well and the 2.x trick. Also, Gofer gives me some headaches when loading from directories. Phil - On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.comwrote: On Oct 9, 2013, at 3:30 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On Oct

Re: [Pharo-dev] ShortRunArray not in Pharo 3.0 anymore, leading to problems with FFI-Kernel-tbn.25

2013-10-09 Thread Marcus Denker
On Oct 9, 2013, at 4:18 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: Snashotcello not loading in 3.0 as well and the 2.x trick. But how is that related to FFI? Also, Gofer gives me some headaches when loading from directories. Phil - On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Esteban Lorenzano

Re: [Pharo-dev] ShortRunArray not in Pharo 3.0 anymore, leading to problems with FFI-Kernel-tbn.25

2013-10-09 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Not directly related, I am loading my full stack and it includes both projets. Speaking of which, ConfigurationOfSeaside3 understands Pharo3.x things I think but loaded with a 2.x compatibility trick, fails (like in loading ConfigurationOfGrease which loads ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser,

Re: [Pharo-dev] ShortRunArray not in Pharo 3.0 anymore, leading to problems with FFI-Kernel-tbn.25

2013-10-09 Thread Clément Bera
I guess we can put back ShortRunArray, RunArray and the 3rd one. It was in Ballon, but there were no users in the image, so I removed them. We need to support FFI without NativeBoost I guess, or we would need to reimplement all what was done with FFI in NativeBoost. 2013/10/9 p...@highoctane.be

Re: [Pharo-dev] ShortRunArray not in Pharo 3.0 anymore, leading to problems with FFI-Kernel-tbn.25

2013-10-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Phil we are ready to help but then give the expression that shows the problem. May be this is just that snapshotcello was simply never loaded in 30 because moose is in 20. and that there is just a platform definition missing. Stef Snashotcello not loading in 3.0 as well and the 2.x trick.

Re: [Pharo-dev] ShortRunArray not in Pharo 3.0 anymore, leading to problems with FFI-Kernel-tbn.25

2013-10-09 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Well, no issues. It is too complex for me to get things loaded in 3.0 and be delivering what we need to, so I am back to 2.0 now. Spent the day on dealing with configs and packages. I am more educated about all that now anyway. Phil On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Stéphane Ducasse

Re: [Pharo-dev] ShortRunArray not in Pharo 3.0 anymore, leading to problems with FFI-Kernel-tbn.25

2013-10-09 Thread btc
p...@highoctane.be wrote: Well, no issues. It is too complex for me to get things loaded in 3.0 and be delivering what we need to, so I am back to 2.0 now. To be fair, the release date for 3.0 is March 2014 :) cheers -ben Spent the day on dealing with configs and packages. I am