Re: [Pharo-dev] problem with linux: missing

2017-01-13 Thread Norbert Hartl 
The reason is that the vm binary is 64bit but the interpreter is for 32bit 
images. Therefor the plugins are 32bit, too. If there will be a 64bit vm plus 
image the dependencies would go away. We are close to that but not there.

Norbert
> Am 12.01.2017 um 15:00 schrieb Nicolas Anquetil :
> 
> thanks for both replies.
> 
> - I was under the impression that the 64bit VM was precisely intended to 
> remove dependencies on 32bits libraries ... ?
> - and yes, you are right, I should have called on the plugin, not the vm
> 
> thanks again
> 
> nicolas
> 
> 
> On 12/01/2017 14:43, Hilaire wrote:
>> If you are using Pharo on a Linux 64 bits system you need the Linux 32
>> bits librararies. There are not installed by default on Linux.
>> 
>> You can follow these procedure to install the missing 32 bits libraries:
>> http://www.drgeo.eu/faq#TOC-Debian-Jessie-Ubuntu-LinuxMint-12.04-LTS1 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Le 12/01/2017 à 12:26, Nicolas Anquetil a écrit :
>>> a fresh install of moose image failed to start on a number of Linux
>>> machines because of missing libraries
>>> 
>>> the missing dependencies are libGL and libX11 that for some reasons were
>>> not installed (but it was a running linux with graphical interface).
>>> 
>>> See below
>>> 
> On 12/01/2017 14:44, Nicolai Hess wrote:
>> The vm-display-X11 
>> will be dynamically loaded, that is why you don't see the GL/X11 dependency 
>> if you ldd on the vm (pharo-executable).
>> 
>> If you are on a 64Bit machine, you need to have 32Bit libraries for X11/GL . 
>> And yes, it would be nice to have a headless vm not to depend on the display 
>> library stuff.
>> 
>> 2017-01-12 14:38 GMT+01:00 Nicolas Anquetil > >:
>> more info on this,
>> 
>> On my own computer, the dependencies are not the same:
>> 
>> ---
>> 
>> $ ldd pharo 
>> linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xf7751000)
>> libm.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0xf76ce000)
>> libdl.so.2 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0xf76c9000)
>> libpthread.so.0 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0xf76ab000)
>> libc.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0xf74f5000)
>> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x565c6000)
>> ---
>> 
>> Specifically, the two missing libraries (for hte others) are not requested 
>> on my computer.
>> So why were they needed in the other cases? (I am using the same pharo5 as 
>> they do)
>> 
>> nicolas
>> 
>> On 12/01/2017 12:26, Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
>>> 
>>> a fresh install of moose image failed to start on a number of Linux 
>>> machines because of missing libraries
>>> 
>>> the missing dependencies are libGL and libX11 that for some reasons were 
>>> not installed (but it was a running linux with graphical interface).
>>> 
>>> See below
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> $ ldd vm-display-X11
>>> 
>>> linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xf7766000)
>>> libpthread.so.0 => /lib32/libpthread.so.0 (0xf76ff000)
>>> libGL.so.1 => not found
>>> libX11.so.6 => not found
>>> libc.so.6 => /lib32/libc.so.6 (0xf754b000)
>>> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x5661f000)
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> 
>>> there should be a way to test that.
>>> Not too sure how. May be an installer in the form of a headless image using 
>>> the system ldd (see above) command ?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> nicolas
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Nicolas Anquetil -- MCF (HDR)
>>> Project-Team RMod
>> 
>> -- 
>> Nicolas Anquetil -- MCF (HDR)
>> Project-Team RMod
>> 
> 
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Re: [Pharo-dev] problem with linux: missing

2017-01-12 Thread Dimitris Chloupis 
The main purpose of the 64bit VM is to allow an image to have a size
greater than 2GB

There is nothing wrong with depending on 32bit libraries

With a 32bit VM you still access mora than 2GB of memory using multiple
images and vm instances and IPC


On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 at 16:01, Nicolas Anquetil 
wrote:

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>
> thanks for both replies.
>
>
> - I was under the impression that the 64bit VM was precisely
>
> intended to remove dependencies on 32bits libraries ... ?
>
>
>
>
> - and yes, you are right, I should have called on the plugin, not
>
> the vm
>
>
>
>
>
> thanks again
>
>
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>
> nicolas
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>
> On 12/01/2017 14:43, Hilaire wrote:
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>
>
>
> If you are using Pharo on a Linux 64 bits system you need the Linux 32
>
> bits librararies. There are not installed by default on Linux.
>
>
>
> You can follow these procedure to install the missing 32 bits libraries:
>
> http://www.drgeo.eu/faq#TOC-Debian-Jessie-Ubuntu-LinuxMint-12.04-LTS1
>
>
>
>
>
> Le 12/01/2017 à 12:26, Nicolas Anquetil a écrit :
>
>
>
>
>
> a fresh install of moose image failed to start on a number of Linux
>
> machines because of missing libraries
>
>
>
> the missing dependencies are libGL and libX11 that for some reasons were
>
> not installed (but it was a running linux with graphical interface).
>
>
>
> See below
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 12/01/2017 14:44, Nicolai Hess
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The vm-display-X11
>
>
> will be dynamically loaded, that is why you don't see the
>
> GL/X11 dependency if you ldd on the vm (pharo-executable).
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> If you are on a 64Bit machine, you need to have 32Bit libraries
>
> for X11/GL . And yes, it would be nice to have a headless vm not
>
> to depend on the display library stuff.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2017-01-12 14:38 GMT+01:00 Nicolas
>
> Anquetil :
>
>
>
>
>
>
> more info on this,
>
>
> On my own computer, the dependencies are not the same:
>
>
> ---
>
>
> $ ldd pharo
>
>
> linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xf7751000)
>
>
> libm.so.6 =>
>
> /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0xf76ce000)
>
>
> libdl.so.2 =>
>
> /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0xf76c9000)
>
>
> libpthread.so.0 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
>
> (0xf76ab000)
>
>
> libc.so.6 =>
>
> /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0xf74f5000)
>
>
> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x565c6000)
>
>
>
>
> ---
>
>
> Specifically, the two missing libraries (for hte
>
> others) are not requested on my computer.
>
>
>
>
> So why were they needed in the other cases? (I am using
>
> the same pharo5 as they do)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> nicolas
>
>
>
>
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>
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> On
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> 12/01/2017 12:26, Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> a fresh install of moose image failed to start on
>
> a number of Linux machines because of missing
>
> libraries
>
>
> the missing dependencies are libGL and libX11
>
> that for some reasons were not installed (but it
>
> was a running linux with graphical interface).
>
>
> See below
>
>
> ---
>
>
>
>
> $ ldd vm-display-X11
>
>
> linux-gate.so.1
>
> =>  (0xf7766000)
>
>
> libpthread.so.0
>
> => /lib32/libpthread.so.0 (0xf76ff000)
>
>
> libGL.so.1
>
> => not found
>
>
> libX11.so.6
>
> => not found
>
>
> libc.so.6
>
> => /lib32/libc.so.6 (0xf754b000)
>
>
> /lib/ld-linux.so.2
>
> (0x5661f000)
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
>
>
>
>
>
> there should be a way to test that.
>
>
> Not too sure how. May be an installer in the form
>
> of a headless image using the system ldd (see
>
> above) command ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> nicolas
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Nicolas Anquetil -- MCF (HDR)
>
> Project-Team RMod
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Nicolas Anquetil -- MCF (HDR)
>
> Project-Team RMod
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>
>
> --
>
> Nicolas Anquetil -- MCF (HDR)
>
> Project-Team RMod
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>

Re: [Pharo-dev] problem with linux: missing

2017-01-12 Thread Hilaire 
I don't knwo. Did you installed the 64bits VM and Pharo 64 bits image. I
think it is still WIP.

Le 12/01/2017 à 15:00, Nicolas Anquetil a écrit :
> - I was under the impression that the 64bit VM was precisely intended to
> remove dependencies on 32bits libraries ... ?

-- 
Dr. Geo
http://drgeo.eu

Re: [Pharo-dev] problem with linux: missing

2017-01-12 Thread Nicolas Anquetil 

thanks for both replies.

- I was under the impression that the 64bit VM was precisely intended to 
remove dependencies on 32bits libraries ... ?


- and yes, you are right, I should have called on the plugin, not the vm

thanks again

nicolas


On 12/01/2017 14:43, Hilaire wrote:

If you are using Pharo on a Linux 64 bits system you need the Linux 32
bits librararies. There are not installed by default on Linux.

You can follow these procedure to install the missing 32 bits libraries:
http://www.drgeo.eu/faq#TOC-Debian-Jessie-Ubuntu-LinuxMint-12.04-LTS1


Le 12/01/2017 à 12:26, Nicolas Anquetil a écrit :

a fresh install of moose image failed to start on a number of Linux
machines because of missing libraries

the missing dependencies are libGL and libX11 that for some reasons were
not installed (but it was a running linux with graphical interface).

See below


On 12/01/2017 14:44, Nicolai Hess wrote:

The vm-display-X11
will be dynamically loaded, that is why you don't see the GL/X11 
dependency if you ldd on the vm (pharo-executable).


If you are on a 64Bit machine, you need to have 32Bit libraries for 
X11/GL . And yes, it would be nice to have a headless vm not to depend 
on the display library stuff.


2017-01-12 14:38 GMT+01:00 Nicolas Anquetil >:


more info on this,

On my own computer, the dependencies are not the same:

---

$ ldd pharo
linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xf7751000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0xf76ce000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0xf76c9000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
(0xf76ab000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0xf74f5000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x565c6000)

---

Specifically, the two missing libraries (for hte others) are not
requested on my computer.

So why were they needed in the other cases? (I am using the same
pharo5 as they do)

nicolas


On 12/01/2017 12:26, Nicolas Anquetil wrote:



a fresh install of moose image failed to start on a number of
Linux machines because of missing libraries

the missing dependencies are libGL and libX11 that for some
reasons were not installed (but it was a running linux with
graphical interface).

See below

---

$ ldd vm-display-X11

linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xf7766000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib32/libpthread.so.0 (0xf76ff000)
libGL.so.1 => not found
libX11.so.6 => not found
libc.so.6 => /lib32/libc.so.6 (0xf754b000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x5661f000)

---

there should be a way to test that.
Not too sure how. May be an installer in the form of a headless
image using the system ldd (see above) command ?


nicolas

-- 
Nicolas Anquetil -- MCF (HDR)

Project-Team RMod


-- 
Nicolas Anquetil -- MCF (HDR)

Project-Team RMod




--
Nicolas Anquetil -- MCF (HDR)
Project-Team RMod

Re: [Pharo-dev] problem with linux: missing

2017-01-12 Thread Nicolai Hess 
The vm-display-X11
will be dynamically loaded, that is why you don't see the GL/X11 dependency
if you ldd on the vm (pharo-executable).

If you are on a 64Bit machine, you need to have 32Bit libraries for X11/GL
. And yes, it would be nice to have a headless vm not to depend on the
display library stuff.

2017-01-12 14:38 GMT+01:00 Nicolas Anquetil :

> more info on this,
>
> On my own computer, the dependencies are not the same:
>
> ---
>
> $ ldd pharo
> linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xf7751000)
> libm.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0xf76ce000)
> libdl.so.2 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0xf76c9000)
> libpthread.so.0 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0xf76ab000)
> libc.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0xf74f5000)
> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x565c6000)
>
> ---
>
> Specifically, the two missing libraries (for hte others) are not requested
> on my computer.
>
> So why were they needed in the other cases? (I am using the same pharo5 as
> they do)
>
> nicolas
>
>
> On 12/01/2017 12:26, Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
>
>
> a fresh install of moose image failed to start on a number of Linux
> machines because of missing libraries
>
> the missing dependencies are libGL and libX11 that for some reasons were
> not installed (but it was a running linux with graphical interface).
>
> See below
>
> ---
>
> $ ldd vm-display-X11
> linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xf7766000)
> libpthread.so.0 => /lib32/libpthread.so.0 (0xf76ff000)
> libGL.so.1 => not found
> libX11.so.6 => not found
> libc.so.6 => /lib32/libc.so.6 (0xf754b000)
> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x5661f000)
>
> ---
>
> there should be a way to test that.
> Not too sure how. May be an installer in the form of a headless image
> using the system ldd (see above) command ?
>
>
> nicolas
>
> --
> Nicolas Anquetil -- MCF (HDR)
> Project-Team RMod
>
>
> --
> Nicolas Anquetil -- MCF (HDR)
> Project-Team RMod
>
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] problem with linux: missing

2017-01-12 Thread Hilaire 
If you are using Pharo on a Linux 64 bits system you need the Linux 32
bits librararies. There are not installed by default on Linux.

You can follow these procedure to install the missing 32 bits libraries:
http://www.drgeo.eu/faq#TOC-Debian-Jessie-Ubuntu-LinuxMint-12.04-LTS1


Le 12/01/2017 à 12:26, Nicolas Anquetil a écrit :
> 
> a fresh install of moose image failed to start on a number of Linux
> machines because of missing libraries
> 
> the missing dependencies are libGL and libX11 that for some reasons were
> not installed (but it was a running linux with graphical interface).
> 
> See below
> 

-- 
Dr. Geo
http://drgeo.eu

Re: [Pharo-dev] problem with linux: missing

2017-01-12 Thread Nicolas Anquetil 

more info on this,

On my own computer, the dependencies are not the same:

---

$ ldd pharo
linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xf7751000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0xf76ce000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0xf76c9000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0xf76ab000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0xf74f5000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x565c6000)

---

Specifically, the two missing libraries (for hte others) are not 
requested on my computer.


So why were they needed in the other cases? (I am using the same pharo5 
as they do)


nicolas


On 12/01/2017 12:26, Nicolas Anquetil wrote:



a fresh install of moose image failed to start on a number of Linux 
machines because of missing libraries


the missing dependencies are libGL and libX11 that for some reasons 
were not installed (but it was a running linux with graphical interface).


See below

---

$ ldd vm-display-X11

linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xf7766000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib32/libpthread.so.0 (0xf76ff000)
libGL.so.1 => not found
libX11.so.6 => not found
libc.so.6 => /lib32/libc.so.6 (0xf754b000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x5661f000)

---

there should be a way to test that.
Not too sure how. May be an installer in the form of a headless image 
using the system ldd (see above) command ?



nicolas

--
Nicolas Anquetil -- MCF (HDR)
Project-Team RMod


--
Nicolas Anquetil -- MCF (HDR)
Project-Team RMod