Re: [Pharo-project] donating money

2012-06-14 Thread Luc Fabresse
Hi Alex, 2012/6/15 Alexandre Bergel > By the way, could this donation be included in the ESUG registration? > no. ESUG and Pharo are completly distinct. > Can I fix myself the amount of money I am willing to give? > For individuals, Stef spoke about two donation levels but if donation is ach

[Pharo-project] Tests Guard report for 20132

2012-06-14 Thread Pavel Krivanek
Tests Guard report for 20132 http://code.google.com/p/pharo/w/edit/TestsGuard Firstly good news: - we have working 2.0 builds and tests again - this tests are green again: * RPackage.Tests.RPackageWithDoTest.testWithDoIsCorrectlyReinstallingDefault * RPackage.Tests.RPackageWithDoTest.testWith

Re: [Pharo-project] donating money

2012-06-14 Thread Marcus Denker
On Jun 15, 2012, at 4:06 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > By the way, could this donation be included in the ESUG registration? > Can I fix myself the amount of money I am willing to give? > ESUG has nothing to do with Pharo. ESUG is a general Smalltalk User Group. The Consortium and ESUG are diff

Re: [Pharo-project] start thinking on summer release of Pharo 1.4

2012-06-14 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Have been using Nautilus and OB and albeit Nautilus is nicer looking, I find my way better with OB. Especially with the top search bar and categorizing into protocols. More buttons under the lists in OB but I do prefer them actually. Phil 2012/6/14 Sean P. DeNigris : > > EstebanLM wrote >> >> I s

Re: [Pharo-project] start thinking on summer release of Pharo 1.4

2012-06-14 Thread p...@highoctane.be
FFI yes, useful as well. 2012/6/15 Schwab,Wilhelm K : > My gripe is not so much that configs don't work together, it's that they work > (very) differently over time; the work I did "last week" to build an image > could be (often is) worthless "today."  Configs really need to reflect on > versio

Re: [Pharo-project] donating money

2012-06-14 Thread Alexandre Bergel
By the way, could this donation be included in the ESUG registration? Can I fix myself the amount of money I am willing to give? Cheers, Alexandre On Jun 15, 2012, at 4:50 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Hi cameron > > right now there is no simple way to give money to pharo but we are working on

Re: [Pharo-project] donating money

2012-06-14 Thread petton . nicolas
Stéphane Ducasse writes: Very cool draft stef! I really like the fact that even small companies like mine can fit here. nico > Hi cameron > > right now there is no simple way to give money to pharo but we are working on > it. What is the amount that you have in mind. > here is a sketch about

Re: [Pharo-project] start thinking on summer release of Pharo 1.4

2012-06-14 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
My gripe is not so much that configs don't work together, it's that they work (very) differently over time; the work I did "last week" to build an image could be (often is) worthless "today." Configs really need to reflect on versions and do the right thing vs. current complexity. If pre-loadi

Re: [Pharo-project] DefaultCommandLineHandler error

2012-06-14 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Camillo Bruni-3 wrote > > that's why the image starts up considerably slower the first time :P > Okay, I updated the issue with that info... -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/DefaultCommandLineHandler-error-tp4634837p4634866.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list

Re: [Pharo-project] donating money

2012-06-14 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi cameron right now there is no simple way to give money to pharo but we are working on it. What is the amount that you have in mind. here is a sketch about what we are thinking after I gathered the ideas people mentioned during the pharo conference. Individus managed via the association =

Re: [Pharo-project] DefaultCommandLineHandler error

2012-06-14 Thread Camillo Bruni
grml that's some stupid bug I accidentally produced by rewriting the command line handler. it seems like it does not properly finish execution and drags along some old code... that's why the image starts up considerably slower the first time :P see http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id

Re: [Pharo-project] problem in nautilus

2012-06-14 Thread Benjamin
Strange, I will check that :) Ben On Jun 14, 2012, at 3:58 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > yes probably a bug but you are working with 1.4 and I worked fixing it in > 2.0. :( > >> Hello, >> >> I getting this error in Nautilus when I try to rename an extension category. >> >> tx, >> Usman >>

Re: [Pharo-project] problem in nautilus

2012-06-14 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
yes probably a bug but you are working with 1.4 and I worked fixing it in 2.0. :( > Hello, > > I getting this error in Nautilus when I try to rename an extension category. > > tx, > Usman > >

[Pharo-project] donating money

2012-06-14 Thread Cameron Sanders
I am under the impression that I can donate money to the Pharo group through gforge.inria.fr. Is it possible to donate with a credit card right through their website? If so, can you please share the link to that page? [My tired eyes are not seeing it today and my searches are failing too.] Thanks i

Re: [Pharo-project] start thinking on summer release of Pharo 1.4

2012-06-14 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
EstebanLM wrote > > I started thinking on next release of Pharo 1.4 (which will be code named > "summer", not an ugly number). > Keep us posted on the target date. I want to review bug fixes integrated in 2.0 [1] and see if any should be included for 1.4 per http://forum.world.st/Backporting-fi

[Pharo-project] DefaultCommandLineHandler error

2012-06-14 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
I don't know if this is a bug (seems like it) or an artifact of Jenkins' build process, but... If you download https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Pharo%202.0/job/Pharo-2.0/151/artifact/Pharo-2.0.zip , when you launch the image, there is "PostMortem: PrimitiveFailed: primitive #primClose: in Mult

[Pharo-project] Kickstarter (was Look and font competition)

2012-06-14 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Helene Bilbo wrote >> Design is not a question of 'fonts' and 'tastes'. Better UI ususally has >> some serious research background. You probably have to pay - or get >> interested - (the right) professionals to do it, and it’s worth it too! Stef answered: >Yes but so far we cannot afford it. Yes

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 2.0 Jenkins build failing

2012-06-14 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
The build is now green! The last successful build is update #20132. Thank you Steph, Esteban, and Marcus :) In the future, if anyone wants to update 2.0 headlessly past #20119, you will need to wrap the update code in an error handler like the following (headful updating will work out of the box w

[Pharo-project] IWST'12 deadline extension

2012-06-14 Thread Alain Plantec
Dear Smalltalkers, We would like to inform you that we will extend the deadline for IWST 2012 submission to Monday, June 25th. We have received several requests asking for a delay concerning the submission deadline. Please can you disseminate this information and use the CFP to invite some of

[Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20132

2012-06-14 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
20132 - Issue 6055: [BUG] New System Progress doesnt work when headless http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6055

Re: [Pharo-project] Fastest utf-8 encoder contest

2012-06-14 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 14 June 2012 14:05, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote: > On 13.06.2012 14:59, Igor Stasenko wrote: >> >> On 13 June 2012 10:31, Philippe Marschall >>  wrote: >>> >>> On 06/13/2012 04:44 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote: Hi, hardcore hackers. please take a look at the code and tell if it can b

Re: [Pharo-project] WriteStream, nextPutAll:, OrderedCollections

2012-06-14 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Camillo Bruni-3 wrote > > it's rather easy to create an image that works with the replaced classes. > But creating a nice loadable > slice / changeset is a rather fragile and tedious task :P > Ha ha... yes, I've noticed that too :) Also, the unintended consequences when people start to use it (

[Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20131

2012-06-14 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
20131 - - Issue 6060: New some ensure methods to FileSystem. Thanks Sean De Nigris and Mariano Martinez-Peck. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6060.

[Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20130

2012-06-14 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
20130 - - Issue 6059: Problem with FileHandle >> open. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6059 - Issue 6056: Typo updete in TestRunner http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6056 - Issue 6062: faster InstructionStream>>#interpret

Re: [Pharo-project] WriteStream, nextPutAll:, OrderedCollections

2012-06-14 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Ok so join forces and propose something. On Jun 14, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > 2012/6/14 Stéphane Ducasse > If one group of guys would take the lead we could introduce XTream in 2.0 and > slowly start to integrate and deprecate slowly the old streams. Who is > interested in

Re: [Pharo-project] WriteStream, nextPutAll:, OrderedCollections

2012-06-14 Thread Damien Cassou
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > I am very very want it:) I guess the question was not "who would like this?" but more "who will take the lead and make it happen?" To you or Nicolas want to take the lead and make it happen? -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seaside

Re: [Pharo-project] WriteStream, nextPutAll:, OrderedCollections

2012-06-14 Thread Denis Kudriashov
2012/6/14 Stéphane Ducasse > If one group of guys would take the lead we could introduce XTream in 2.0 > and slowly start to integrate and deprecate slowly the old streams. Who is > interested in that? > > I am very very want it:)

Re: [Pharo-project] Fastest utf-8 encoder contest

2012-06-14 Thread Henrik Sperre Johansen
On 13.06.2012 14:59, Igor Stasenko wrote: On 13 June 2012 10:31, Philippe Marschall wrote: On 06/13/2012 04:44 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote: Hi, hardcore hackers. please take a look at the code and tell if it can be improved. The AsmJit snippet below transforms an unicode integer value to 1..4-by

Re: [Pharo-project] WriteStream, nextPutAll:, OrderedCollections

2012-06-14 Thread petton . nicolas
Stéphane Ducasse writes: > If one group of guys would take the lead we could introduce XTream in > 2.0 and slowly start to integrate and deprecate slowly the old > streams. Who is interested in that? Me. Nico > > Stef > > Tx > > now there is a difference between adjustments and f

Re: [Pharo-project] WriteStream, nextPutAll:, OrderedCollections

2012-06-14 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I would also really like to have a chapter based on the documentation (if any). > If one group of guys would take the lead we could introduce XTream in 2.0 and > slowly start to integrate and deprecate slowly the old streams. Who is > interested in that?

Re: [Pharo-project] WriteStream, nextPutAll:, OrderedCollections

2012-06-14 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
>> > > Indeed, with the new FS being almost ready in 2.0 the next big mess to > tackle are the streams. > > Personally I really liked the clean separation of the low level stream > features (bytes) and the high-level interfaces to it (converters, > characters...) > > but the question remains

Re: [Pharo-project] WriteStream, nextPutAll:, OrderedCollections

2012-06-14 Thread Camillo Bruni
>>> >> +100. >> I gave up on trying to mold the current Streams into something a bit more >> reasonable and still be backwards compatible quite some time ago. >> >> That other thread about Converters? >> Totally related. For example, you can't do what Sven did in the Zn >> converters without brea

Re: [Pharo-project] WriteStream, nextPutAll:, OrderedCollections

2012-06-14 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
If one group of guys would take the lead we could introduce XTream in 2.0 and slowly start to integrate and deprecate slowly the old streams. Who is interested in that? Stef Tx now there is a difference between adjustments and fully new API and I would have preferred adjus

Re: [Pharo-project] WriteStream, nextPutAll:, OrderedCollections

2012-06-14 Thread Nicolas Cellier
2012/6/14 Henrik Sperre Johansen : > On 14.06.2012 08:43, Igor Stasenko wrote: >> >> On 14 June 2012 08:33, Stéphane Ducasse  wrote: >>> >>> Tx >>> >>> now there is a difference between adjustments and fully new API and I >>> would have preferred adjustments. >>> >>> Stef >> >> IMO, Xtreams design

Re: [Pharo-project] WriteStream, nextPutAll:, OrderedCollections

2012-06-14 Thread Nicolas Cellier
Here is a bit less dumb evaluation of stream protocols, top 100 Stream-messages sent in Pharo2.0 but by Stream: selectors := (Stream withAllSubclasses inject: Set new into: [:allSelectors :aClass | allSelectors addAll: aClass selectors; yourself]) sorted. references := selectors collect: [:e | e

Re: [Pharo-project] Process Tests and

2012-06-14 Thread Stefan Marr
Hi: On 14 Jun 2012, at 11:34, Frank Shearar wrote: >>> How do you #join Processes? I can't see anything in Process' protocol >>> for doing so. so what am I missing? >> >> >> Nothing. Theres no support for join. You have to roll your own. > > OK, that's what I thought. Stefan's comment intrig

Re: [Pharo-project] WriteStream, nextPutAll:, OrderedCollections

2012-06-14 Thread Frank Shearar
On 13 June 2012 23:11, Frank Shearar wrote: > On 13 June 2012 20:25, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> I would have really prefer that Xtreams provide a compatible API. >> Because changing API means also rewrite documentation…. > > If I recall correctly, Michael & Martin said that it was impossible to >

Re: [Pharo-project] Process Tests and

2012-06-14 Thread Frank Shearar
On 13 June 2012 23:15, Eliot Miranda wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Frank Shearar > wrote: >> >> On 2 June 2012 09:28, Stefan Marr wrote: >> > Hi Sean: >> > >> > On 02 Jun 2012, at 05:07, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: >> > >> >> During the process, I noticed that the Blue Book specifies

[Pharo-project] [ESUG 2012] Call for sponsors

2012-06-14 Thread Luc Fabresse
Dear Smalltalkers, As you know ESUG (European Smalltalk User Group) is a nonprofit organization, ran by a bunch of volunteers which aims at promoting Smalltalk (http://www.esug.org/Promotion). ESUG does have multiple actions such as sponsoring Smalltalk-related publications (articles and books), e

Re: [Pharo-project] WriteStream, nextPutAll:, OrderedCollections

2012-06-14 Thread Henrik Sperre Johansen
On 14.06.2012 08:43, Igor Stasenko wrote: On 14 June 2012 08:33, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Tx now there is a difference between adjustments and fully new API and I would have preferred adjustments. Stef IMO, Xtreams design is simply superior. +100. I gave up on trying to mold the current Str

Re: [Pharo-project] WriteStream, nextPutAll:, OrderedCollections

2012-06-14 Thread Damien Cassou
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 6:09 PM, wrote: >> Now Damien, if streaming is only intended for arrays and strings, I'd >> expect the expression 'OrderedCollection new writeStream' to raise an >> error... :/ agree, that should be fixed > Indeed. Also, just for my information, why aren't we using Nil

Re: [Pharo-project] WriteStream, nextPutAll:, OrderedCollections

2012-06-14 Thread Nicolas Cellier
I would address the problem with a compatibility layer like 'foo' reading withLegacyProtocol You have many options to add a protocol - simply add the protocol at XTReadStream/XTWriteSTream roots - just create another Xtreams wrapper, - use a Trait I wish I had lightweight traits, I mean with