[Pharo-project] PluggableTextMorph changed behavior

2012-04-01 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
Hello, As far as PluggableTextMorph can be understandable, I used the code bellow to 'manipulate' text field the user can edit. The code bellow was working recently: morph := PluggableTextMorph on: builder text: #title accept: #title:. morph acceptTextInModel.

Re: [Pharo-project] PluggableTextMorph changed behavior

2012-04-01 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
Le 01/04/2012 14:29, Hilaire Fernandes a écrit : Hello, As far as PluggableTextMorph can be understandable, I used the code bellow to 'manipulate' text field the user can edit. The code bellow was working recently: morph := PluggableTextMorph on: builder text: #title

Re: [Pharo-project] PluggableTextMorph changed behavior

2012-04-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Well the problem is that Morph is so complex and the API totally obscure. Last time we spent 2 hours to find that the ghost text did not work because of not initialized correctly somewhere else. So we should slowly clean the API. Now for this change I have no idea. What you should see is that

Re: [Pharo-project] PluggableTextMorph changed behavior

2012-04-01 Thread Lawson English
On 4/1/12 5:40 AM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: [...] We should have a way to track and document the changes we make in the image. Spoon will have a very fine-grained solution for this issue. L

Re: [Pharo-project] PluggableTextMorph changed behavior

2012-04-01 Thread Mark Smith
On 1 Apr 2012, at 14:22, Lawson English wrote: On 4/1/12 5:40 AM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: [...] We should have a way to track and document the changes we make in the image. Spoon will have a very fine-grained solution for this issue. How much interest is there in Spoon from the Pharo

Re: [Pharo-project] PluggableTextMorph changed behavior

2012-04-01 Thread Marcus Denker
On Apr 1, 2012, at 3:29 PM, Mark Smith wrote: On 1 Apr 2012, at 14:22, Lawson English wrote: On 4/1/12 5:40 AM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: [...] We should have a way to track and document the changes we make in the image. Spoon will have a very fine-grained solution for this issue.

Re: [Pharo-project] PluggableTextMorph changed behavior

2012-04-01 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
Le 01/04/2012 15:22, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit : Well the problem is that Morph is so complex and the API totally obscure. I know I know, all this morphic stuff really really looks cryptic and dusty, refactoring was due for many years but did not take place until pharo. So it results in this big

Re: [Pharo-project] PluggableTextMorph changed behavior

2012-04-01 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
[marcus.den...@inria.fr] Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 9:33 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] PluggableTextMorph changed behavior On Apr 1, 2012, at 3:29 PM, Mark Smith wrote: On 1 Apr 2012, at 14:22, Lawson English wrote: On 4/1/12 5:40 AM, Hilaire Fernandes

Re: [Pharo-project] PluggableTextMorph changed behavior

2012-04-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Apr 1, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: Le 01/04/2012 15:22, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit : Well the problem is that Morph is so complex and the API totally obscure. I know I know, all this morphic stuff really really looks cryptic and dusty, refactoring was due for many years

Re: [Pharo-project] PluggableTextMorph changed behavior

2012-04-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
A bit of french culture for marcus :) L'arlesienne: the one that we endlessly wait for. http://www.expressio.fr/expressions/l-arlesienne.php coming from a novel of Alfonse Daudet. Stef PS: note that we are not waiting for Spoon. We are building our system and slowly

Re: [Pharo-project] PluggableTextMorph changed behavior

2012-04-01 Thread p...@highoctane.be
To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] PluggableTextMorph changed behavior On Apr 1, 2012, at 3:29 PM, Mark Smith wrote: On 1 Apr 2012, at 14:22, Lawson English wrote: On 4/1/12 5:40 AM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: [...] We should have a way to track

Re: [Pharo-project] PluggableTextMorph changed behavior

2012-04-01 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Stef, Yes, what's lacking is the doc. The system in itself is pretty great, once you invest a ton of hours in lighting the dark corners (PluggableTextMorph, OMG, an MVC-Morphic beast ...) How can I contribute to the book? I don't have a clue on how to login. Also, I went through most of your

Re: [Pharo-project] PluggableTextMorph changed behavior

2012-04-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Marcus Denker [marcus.den...@inria.fr] Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 9:33 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] PluggableTextMorph changed behavior On Apr 1, 2012, at 3:29 PM, Mark Smith

Re: [Pharo-project] PluggableTextMorph changed behavior

2012-04-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
get an account on gforge.inria.fr and let us know your login we will add you to the svn and you will have access. Stef Stef, Yes, what's lacking is the doc. The system in itself is pretty great, once you invest a ton of hours in lighting the dark corners (PluggableTextMorph, OMG, an

Re: [Pharo-project] PluggableTextMorph changed behavior

2012-04-01 Thread Marcus Denker
PS: note that we are not waiting for Spoon. We are building our system and slowly but steadily arriving there. We are working step by step on making the system more modular and easier to change. We hope to have a bootstrap soon. That said, I of course like Spoon... lots of good ideas

Re: [Pharo-project] PluggableTextMorph changed behavior

2012-04-01 Thread p...@highoctane.be
done. UID: philippeback 2012/4/1 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr get an account on gforge.inria.fr and let us know your login we will add you to the svn and you will have access. Stef Stef, Yes, what's lacking is the doc. The system in itself is pretty great, once you

Re: [Pharo-project] PluggableTextMorph changed behavior

2012-04-01 Thread p...@highoctane.be
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