Sean P. DeNigris wrote
>
> I want to review bug fixes integrated in 2.0 [1] and see if any should be
> included for 1.4 per
> http://forum.world.st/Backporting-fixes-tp4633625p4633635.html
>
> [1]
> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=1&q=status%3AIntegrated+Milestone%3D2.0+Type%3DBug
Ok... but we are not going to spend time fixing OB.
OB maintainers are not anymore in the community (or are not willing to maintain
OB for 1.4) and is too much work for us to do it. I think even with that
couple of things you are reporting (and maybe some others that may appear), OB
is overall
On Jun 18, 2012, at 7:00 PM, Milan Mimica wrote:
> On 13 June 2012 11:08, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
>
> - pre-load OmniBrowser.
>
> Two things I have noticed don't work well in OB in Pharo 1.4:
> 1. The chasing browser for senders/implementors - well it's not chasing.
check because normally th
On 13 June 2012 11:08, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
>
> - pre-load OmniBrowser.
>
Two things I have noticed don't work well in OB in Pharo 1.4:
1. The chasing browser for senders/implementors - well it's not chasing.
2. When you hit ctrl+f and type something, you cannot use arrow keys to
select a cl
ject] start thinking on summer release of Pharo 1.4
Who is his/her right mind would be able to make sense of this without
a lot of preexposure? And who the hell are those people?
And figuring out they need to right click, followed by a load
configuration *and* stable version? Followed by a ln
On 2012-06-17, at 21:42, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
> Don't get me wrong. I love all of what I do see in there. I've done a
> ton of Maven2 stuff (including setting up a quite large maven proxy),
> so I perfectly understand the ton of hard work that goes along with
> configs. Much important, much
I reread the web site and this is more for startups?
I passed the message to guys around.
> Well, it is web-ish enough to warrant some ca$h heh?
>
> Seaside, tODE, Pier, Zn, Monticello, SS3, all that is web.
>
> Pharo and the web, distributed coding at its best.
>
> Pharo is the core upon which
Well, it is web-ish enough to warrant some ca$h heh?
Seaside, tODE, Pier, Zn, Monticello, SS3, all that is web.
Pharo and the web, distributed coding at its best.
Pharo is the core upon which all the rest is built for success and
kick-ass delivery!
Phil
2012/6/17 Stéphane Ducasse :
>
>
>> Who
> Who wants to hit the button?
>
> https://webfwd.org/apply/
>
I read it when you told me but I was confused because pharo is not only about
web.
I will reread it.
Stef
on, that would be huge progress.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>> ____________________
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>>> [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of
>>> p..
on, that would be huge progress.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>> ____________________
>>> From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
>>> [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of
>>> p..
onfigs offer and
>>> can load a #stable version, that would be huge progress.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>> ____________________
>>> From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
>>> [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gfor
fer and
>> can load a #stable version, that would be huge progress.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
>> [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of
>
rge.inria.fr
> [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of p...@highoctane.be
> [p...@highoctane.be]
> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 6:44 AM
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>
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Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] start thinking on summer release of Pharo 1.4
Who is his/her right mind would be able to make sense of this without
a lot of preexposure? And who the hell are those people?
And figuring out they need to right click, followed by a load
configuration *and* s
] start thinking on summer release of Pharo 1.4
i for Pharo 1.4.1
no messy naming please.
Let's care more about what we put under the hood, than on glossy cover.
--
Best regards,
Igor Stasenko.
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 4:36 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
> Moved to Nautilus for a week, I am now back to OB. At least I can
> navigate through everything without weird things popping up in my face
> everyone in a while (well, even with OB there are quite a bunch.).
>
>
Good luck trying to make
On 17 June 2012 16:36, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
> Moved to Nautilus for a week, I am now back to OB. At least I can
> navigate through everything without weird things popping up in my face
> everyone in a while (well, even with OB there are quite a bunch.).
>
> Just an example with OB (screenshot
Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
I prefer codenames and not number because numbering is boring. Just that. 1.4.1 is a stupid number that makes people believe that there will be a 1.4.2, etc... (because our mind is designed that way, inevitably). And if I want to realease an emergency fix, as this version
philippeback wrote
>
> OB if we want traction with embarking new people into Pharo.
> ...
That makes sense. The only downside is that we will train people on one
browser and almost immediately switch to a new one. I remember questions
about how to "get the browser from PBE" (it was O2 I think).
Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
On Jun 17, 2012, at 5:10 AM, Ben Coman wrote:
Is Nautilus under any consideration to be the default browser for your summer release at all, or are you firmly committed to OB?
I need to know this to continue updating Pharo By Example for 1.4.
thi
The girl was attractive and that's why I talked to her.
Light was faster than sound in her case, so I left.
But, I wouldn't have spoken to her in the first place should she have
been an ugly betty.
That's just the way things go and why marketing focuses so much on
packaging, even if it is an ugly
yes, Configurations Browser needs a little love too :P
On Jun 17, 2012, at 12:44 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
> Who is his/her right mind would be able to make sense of this without
> a lot of preexposure? And who the hell are those people?
>
> And figuring out they need to right click, followe
i for Pharo 1.4.1
no messy naming please.
Let's care more about what we put under the hood, than on glossy cover.
--
Best regards,
Igor Stasenko.
OB if we want traction with embarking new people into Pharo.
Think about the feeling it would give when faced with
incomplete/unstable in such a thing as the Browser for a new comer or
someone who wants to convince "the powers" that Pharo is an
interesting avenue to invest into.
Nautilus is the s
On Jun 17, 2012, at 5:10 AM, Ben Coman wrote:
> Is Nautilus under any consideration to be the default browser for your summer
> release at all, or are you firmly committed to OB?
> I need to know this to continue updating Pharo By Example for 1.4.
this is an interesting and important issue (muc
As a tribute to south america, why not pick up places, people, or events?
There is for sure a wealth of names and a rich history.
Would be great as lots of growth expected in that area of the world!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Argentina
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Chile
P
I prefer codenames and not number because numbering is boring. Just that. 1.4.1
is a stupid number that makes people believe that there will be a 1.4.2, etc...
(because our mind is designed that way, inevitably). And if I want to realease
an emergency fix, as this version is 1.4.1 next version w
Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
EstebanLM wrote
I started thinking on next release of Pharo 1.4 (which will be code named
"summer", not an ugly number).
Re browsers... I would definitely include either OB or Nautilus. The default
is just too limiting. Nautilus does seem to be in a pretty usable s
I do not know... Python and Ruby are kind of popular too without needing
such kind of prefixes... I thing we should be original in the name :), and
that's all...
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 10:50 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_version_history isn't too bad either
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_version_history isn't too bad either
with Update x suffix.
Pharo SE 4 Update 2 ... there is some good marketing touch to that
given the popularity of Java.
They switched after 1.4 - As an innovative platform, maybe we can switch now :-)
2.0 would become Pharo SE
We are closing the gap with Java versions... Pharo 1.6.3_047 nearing...
2012/6/16 Mariano Martinez Peck :
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Philippe Marschall wrote:
>>
>> On 13.06.2012 11:08, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I started thinking on next release of Pharo 1.4 (which
...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [
> pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Stéphane
> Ducasse [stephane.duca...@inria.fr]
> > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 4:24 AM
> > To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] start thinking on summ
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> [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Stéphane Ducasse
> [stephane.duca...@inria.fr]
> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 4:24 AM
> To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.f
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Philippe Marschall wrote:
> On 13.06.2012 11:08, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I started thinking on next release of Pharo 1.4 (which will be code named
>> "summer", not an ugly number).
>>
>
> It's only summer in the northern hemisphere. Eclipse renamed
Bill
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[esteba...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 6:20 AM
To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] start thinking on summer re
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Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 4:24 AM
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Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] start thinking on summer release of Pharo 1.4
On Jun
On 13.06.2012 11:08, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
Hi,
I started thinking on next release of Pharo 1.4 (which will be code named
"summer", not an ugly number).
It's only summer in the northern hemisphere. Eclipse renamed their
winter releases because it isn't winter in February in half of the wor
Hi,
you are asking for two things there:
-a sound package for pharo 1.4 (I don't know if it exists, and in any case we
cannot add it as a core package, you need to install it and see how it works by
yourself)
-a working sound plugin for iOS. TBH, while I'm including it in regular
compilations
rge.inria.fr
> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] start thinking on summer release of Pharo 1.4
>
> Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote
>>
>> My gripe is... that configs... work (very) differently over time
>>
> With the current evolution of Metacello, this should not be the case. Don
On Jun 15, 2012, at 11:36 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
> Well, spotlight is really cool indeed. Shift-Space XXX Enter. yay!
>
> But I like to have a view on several classes and typing HOPR¨helps.
>
> Same when exploring the system for doing something (like
> sound-synthesis for example).
>
>
eNigris [[hidden
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> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 8:08 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] start thinking on summer release of Pharo 1.4
>
> Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote
> >
> > But if I'm building a new image *today*, I want it to do the
Phil, i would be really glad to help with that,
but currently my plate is too full.
Perhaps there someone who can check it out and fix it if it broken or
miss some parts.
As Marcus says (and i like to repeat that), when something is not
used/tested daily, it only a question of time when you will fi
.
From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Sean P. DeNigris
[s...@clipperadams.com]
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 8:08 PM
To: pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] start thinking on summer release of
Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote
>
> But if I'm building a new image *today*, I want it to do the right thing
> now (automatically for the current version), with the same incantation as
> worked months ago or months from now.
Absolutely! Two things about that:
* Metacello has no magic. Ultimately, what yo
philippeback wrote
>
> BTW, any new stuff on the MP3 front? I am looking at the sophie 1.0
> extract of yours.
>
Not that I'm aware of... I rescued a video morph too (IIRC it should play
any format that QT can handle).
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View this message in context:
http://forum.world.st/start-thinking-on-s
s. reality.
From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Sean P. DeNigris
[s...@clipperadams.com]
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:49 PM
To: pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] start thinking
Well, spotlight is really cool indeed. Shift-Space XXX Enter. yay!
But I like to have a view on several classes and typing HOPR¨helps.
Same when exploring the system for doing something (like
sound-synthesis for example).
BTW, any new stuff on the MP3 front? I am looking at the sophie 1.0
extrac
Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote
>
> My gripe is... that configs... work (very) differently over time
>
With the current evolution of Metacello, this should not be the case. Done
right, what a config loads can be 100% static and repeatable. If you load a
literal version (e.g. '1.4'), which loads literal v
philippeback wrote
>
> Have been using Nautilus and OB and albeit Nautilus is nicer looking,
> I find my way better with OB. Especially with the top search bar and
> categorizing into protocols. More buttons under the lists in OB but I
> do prefer them actually.
>
Overall, I like Nautilus' work
Have been using Nautilus and OB and albeit Nautilus is nicer looking,
I find my way better with OB. Especially with the top search bar and
categorizing into protocols. More buttons under the lists in OB but I
do prefer them actually.
Phil
2012/6/14 Sean P. DeNigris :
>
> EstebanLM wrote
>>
>> I s
ect-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of p...@highoctane.be
> [p...@highoctane.be]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:23 AM
> To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] start thinking on summer release of Pharo 1.4
>
> Esteban,
>
> Definitely worth doing!!
2012 6:23 AM
To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] start thinking on summer release of Pharo 1.4
Esteban,
Definitely worth doing!!!
Install all the stuff I need on new images etc just to the have to
discard them for some reason doesn't makes me reinstall anything
afterwards.
Tr
EstebanLM wrote
>
> I started thinking on next release of Pharo 1.4 (which will be code named
> "summer", not an ugly number).
>
Keep us posted on the target date. I want to review bug fixes integrated in
2.0 [1] and see if any should be included for 1.4 per
http://forum.world.st/Backporting-fi
Can't help remember something old...
Clipper Summer '87.
The name was sticking for a long while.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipper_(programming_language)
You'll see the Seasonal Versions, which is quite a nice idea in fact
as it allows interesting themeing to take place.
There was a VM and
Call it SummerRain :).
Yes this is a good idea.
What we should do also is to push and validate metacello Configs. We should
really move on such topic.
Stef
On Jun 13, 2012, at 11:08 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I started thinking on next release of Pharo 1.4 (which will be code na
On Jun 13, 2012, at 6:23 AM, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
> Esteban,
>
> Definitely worth doing!!!
>
> Install all the stuff I need on new images etc just to the have to
> discard them for some reason doesn't makes me reinstall anything
> afterwards.
>
> Tried to work the way of Mariano with the
On 13/06/12 5:08 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
- pre-load OmniBrowser.
- pre-load Spotlight
As long as it unloads cleanly, then okay.
Would #cleanUpForProduction do the unload?
Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
Hi,
I started thinking on next release of Pharo 1.4 (which will be code named "summer", not an ugly number).
I've been monitoring the list and I think there are some things to improve, so I'm planning to add this things to new one click:
- pre-load OmniBrowser.
Why I
Esteban,
Definitely worth doing!!!
Install all the stuff I need on new images etc just to the have to
discard them for some reason doesn't makes me reinstall anything
afterwards.
Tried to work the way of Mariano with the "ConfigurationOf" but
frankly, let it fall by the wayside.
Just too ma
On 13 Jun 2012, at 11:08, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I started thinking on next release of Pharo 1.4 (which will be code named
> "summer", not an ugly number).
> I've been monitoring the list and I think there are some things to improve,
> so I'm planning to add this things to new one
Hi,
I started thinking on next release of Pharo 1.4 (which will be code named
"summer", not an ugly number).
I've been monitoring the list and I think there are some things to improve, so
I'm planning to add this things to new one click:
- pre-load OmniBrowser.
Why I'm suggesting this? Becau
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