Re: [Pharo-project] Squeaksource down again

2012-01-16 Thread Fabrizio Perin
No problem, I'm sorry i cannot do anything until tomorrow. Cheers, Fabrizio 2012/1/16 Frank Shearar > Thanks, Fabrizio. It did indeed look more serious than SS being > difficult: I was getting No Route to Host errors, so looked more > network related than SS. > > frank > > On 16 January 2012 16

Re: [Pharo-project] Squeaksource down again

2012-01-16 Thread Frank Shearar
Thanks, Fabrizio. It did indeed look more serious than SS being difficult: I was getting No Route to Host errors, so looked more network related than SS. frank On 16 January 2012 16:54, Fabrizio Perin wrote: > Well, all our servers are down. Try tommorow. > > > > 2012/1/16 Frank Shearar >> >> h

Re: [Pharo-project] Squeaksource down again

2012-01-16 Thread Fabrizio Perin
Well, all our servers are down. Try tommorow. 2012/1/16 Frank Shearar > http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.squeaksource.com > > Hooray for ss3.gemstone.com! > > frank > >

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down... again

2011-02-22 Thread Fabrizio Perin
2011/2/22 Yanni Chiu > On 22/02/11 6:34 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > >> Anyway, putting it on a newer Linux based server (shouldn't have to >> cost that much) and adding some of the standard tools to monitor the >> process and reboot it if necessary will probably already help a lot. >> > >

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down... again

2011-02-22 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 22 Feb 2011, at 13:54, Yanni Chiu wrote: > On 22/02/11 6:34 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >> Anyway, putting it on a newer Linux based server (shouldn't have to >> cost that much) and adding some of the standard tools to monitor the >> process and reboot it if necessary will probably alread

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down... again

2011-02-22 Thread Yanni Chiu
On 22/02/11 6:34 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: Anyway, putting it on a newer Linux based server (shouldn't have to cost that much) and adding some of the standard tools to monitor the process and reboot it if necessary will probably already help a lot. But simply rebooting the image may not

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down... again

2011-02-22 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
Le 21/02/2011 16:48, Fabrizio Perin a écrit : > to solve it (surely you can find lots of email from Stephan talking > about this). I'm trying to keep the system alive. > Thanks ;) Hilaire

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down... again

2011-02-22 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
I think that Monticello as it is today is pretty good. I remember working in Smalltalk without something like Monticello and it was a PITA. My first experiences with Envy were that it was very complex, hard to use and hugely overpriced. The fact that we all hate it so much when SqueakSource is

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down... again

2011-02-22 Thread Göran Krampe
On 02/22/2011 10:21 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote: On 22 February 2011 08:21, Philippe Marschall wrote: On 02/21/2011 05:39 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: On Feb 21, 2011, at 17:22 , Camillo Bruni wrote: how about a file based system and git? yea, just discussed this very idea an hour ago... The

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down... again

2011-02-22 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 22 February 2011 08:21, Philippe Marschall wrote: > On 02/21/2011 05:39 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >> >> On Feb 21, 2011, at 17:22 , Camillo Bruni wrote: >> >>> how about a file based system and git? >> >> yea, just discussed this very idea an hour ago... >> >> The simplest thing that could wor

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down... again

2011-02-21 Thread Geert Claes
Chris Muller-3 wrote: > >>> how about a file based system and git? > > -1. > Hang on, I think we may be missing the point here. There is no need to all agree or come to a consensus as someone else mentioned here. I would like to think that Pharo is open minded enough to accept other alterna

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down... again

2011-02-21 Thread Philippe Marschall
On 02/21/2011 05:39 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > > On Feb 21, 2011, at 17:22 , Camillo Bruni wrote: > >> how about a file based system and git? > > yea, just discussed this very idea an hour ago... > > The simplest thing that could work: > - Write out changes to files (for each method and class

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down... again

2011-02-21 Thread Max Leske
Camillo, actually Lukas did something with Monticello and my GitFS package called "MonticelloGit". There's only one version so far and I haven't looked at it but if anyone's interested, you can find the package on SqueakSouce: http://www.squeaksource.com/GitFS.html Max On 21.02.2011, at 23:35

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down... again

2011-02-21 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2011-02-21, at 22:52, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> Max Leske, a student in bern started to write a git library for smalltalk. >> so there should be already quite some stuff available. >> but AFAIK there is no MC adapter yet. > > I do not have much experience with Git, but do you think it is fea

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down... again

2011-02-21 Thread Alexandre Bergel
> Max Leske, a student in bern started to write a git library for smalltalk. so > there should be already quite some stuff available. > but AFAIK there is no MC adapter yet. I do not have much experience with Git, but do you think it is feasible to have such adapter? Alexandre > > personally

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down... again

2011-02-21 Thread Camillo Bruni
I'm in! Max Leske, a student in bern started to write a git library for smalltalk. so there should be already quite some stuff available. but AFAIK there is no MC adapter yet. personally I would really appreciate that (also for other versioning tools). - I like to choose my own tools - I don't

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down... again

2011-02-21 Thread Miguel Cobá
El lun, 21-02-2011 a las 10:28 -0800, Steven Baker escribió: > FWIW, Git is a very generic system. There's no reason we couldn't > write a storage adapter for MC that puts the repo in Git. Git only > knows about objects, and the versions thereof. We could easily have > Monticello on top of git. >

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down... again

2011-02-21 Thread Steven Baker
FWIW, Git is a very generic system. There's no reason we couldn't write a storage adapter for MC that puts the repo in Git. Git only knows about objects, and the versions thereof. We could easily have Monticello on top of git. I'm not sure I think it's a good solution, but it sounds like something

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down... again

2011-02-21 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Esteban, I look forward to testing it :) BTW, SqueakSource is not the problem for me (we have a HTTP repository). The MC speed is what bothers us most... I just responded in this thread since the idea was mentioned by Camillo. I know that other people are more attached to the "Smalltalk way

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down... again

2011-02-21 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Hi, I'm already working in a file based solution... it will be ready for test next one or two months :) There are some advantages I want to point: - Better for newcomers - Better for customers who "want to see the sources" (yes, I have some of them, time to time) - We don't need to take care a

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down... again

2011-02-21 Thread Guillermo Polito
I don't know if we have to change to another kind of service. But we MUST have alternatives. On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > Come on. We are talking about quality of service here, or about > changing the service? > I don't think that after migrating to (put your favorite

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down... again

2011-02-21 Thread Igor Stasenko
Come on. We are talking about quality of service here, or about changing the service? I don't think that after migrating to (put your favorite here), we won't have any new problems. And then same, lack of people who can address them. On 21 February 2011 17:39, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > > On Feb 21

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down... again

2011-02-21 Thread Chris Muller
>> how about a file based system and git? -1. > yea, just discussed this very idea an hour ago... > > The simplest thing that could work: > - Write out changes to files (for each method and class) > - Use git to commit, push, pull, merge, etc. > - After git actions, load changed files and compile

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down... again

2011-02-21 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Feb 21, 2011, at 17:22 , Camillo Bruni wrote: > how about a file based system and git? yea, just discussed this very idea an hour ago... The simplest thing that could work: - Write out changes to files (for each method and class) - Use git to commit, push, pull, merge, etc. - After git actio

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down... again

2011-02-21 Thread Camillo Bruni
how about a file based system and git? On 2011-02-21, at 16:48, Fabrizio Perin wrote: > Well more or less every 10 days i need to restart it. This discussion happen > already in different threads but again the problems are: > 1- The machine hosting squeaksource is an old mac. Maybe on a new machi

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down... again

2011-02-21 Thread Fabrizio Perin
Well more or less every 10 days i need to restart it. This discussion happen already in different threads but again the problems are: 1- The machine hosting squeaksource is an old mac. Maybe on a new machine running linux it could be better. 2- SqueakSource is running in a squeakimage on a SqueakVM

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down... again

2011-02-21 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
Thanks, do nothing, just wait and see until SqueakSource turns completely unusable. I don't know if people won't noticed or don't want to admit it, but SqueakSource is down very often lately.. 2011/2/21 Fabrizio Perin : > SqueakSource is up and running. I did restart it at 15:55 GTM+1 so i don't

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down... again

2011-02-21 Thread Fabrizio Perin
SqueakSource is up and running. I did restart it at 15:55 GTM+1 so i don't know how i can help you. 2011/2/21 Hernán Morales Durand > SqueakSource is down again. I'm tired of this situation, there is any > alternative "free" repository? > Cheers, > > -- > Hernán Morales > Information Technology

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down... again

2011-02-21 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
I mean repository *server*, Thanks 2011/2/21 Henrik Johansen : > + Repository > directory > > Cheers, > Henry > > On Feb 21, 2011, at 4:02 46PM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote: > >> SqueakSource is down again. I'm tired of this situation, there is any >> alternative "free" repository? >> Cheers, >> >

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down... again

2011-02-21 Thread Guillermo Polito
An FTP repo is a good alternative for private projects. Esteban uses that I think. On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Henrik Johansen < henrik.s.johan...@veloxit.no> wrote: > + Repository > directory > > Cheers, > Henry > > On Feb 21, 2011, at 4:02 46PM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote: > > > SqueakS

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down... again

2011-02-21 Thread Henrik Johansen
+ Repository directory Cheers, Henry On Feb 21, 2011, at 4:02 46PM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote: > SqueakSource is down again. I'm tired of this situation, there is any > alternative "free" repository? > Cheers, > > -- > Hernán Morales > Information Technology Manager, > Institute of Veterinar