Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo and GIT

2016-07-25 Thread Dale Henrichs
On 07/25/2016 03:33 PM, Sean Glazier wrote: I git you are working with files and text and it does not have the notion of classes and methods and the value of being able to see the history of the class / methods. FileTree is the layer that lives between the directory structure on disk and

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo and GIT

2016-07-25 Thread Nicolas Passerini
> > > Well I wasn't sure if I should be reporting things now (because obviously > it's incomplete), and I saw 58 issues on github, so didn't want to add > more. > But if you want some feedback :) > Yes, feedback is necessary... even knowing that you are using it is good news for me. >

Re: [Pharo-users] System Browser "Implementors of..." drill down?

2016-07-25 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
See attachment Hernán 2016-07-24 18:19 GMT-03:00 stepharo : > Hi hernan > > Could you send a screenshot so that I understand precisely what you mean? > > I tend to listen to grumbling people like you and me :) > > Stef > > Le 22/7/16 à 09:24, Hernán Morales Durand a écrit : >

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo and GIT

2016-07-25 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
2016-07-25 19:33 GMT-03:00 Sean Glazier : > Thank you, Peter for documenting that :-). While I think git tools are OK, > my opinion though is that Smalltalk hub should be moved forward as well. At > cincom the Store experience started out painful and it has its quirks, but

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo and GIT

2016-07-25 Thread Peter Uhnak
On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 10:49:41PM +0200, Nicolas Passerini wrote: > On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 7:28 PM, Peter Uhnak wrote: > > > IceBerg, which is hopefully the future of git in Pharo ( > > https://github.com/npasserini/iceberg ) > > > > Well, I hope so :) > > Iceberg is under

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo and GIT

2016-07-25 Thread Sean Glazier
Thank you, Peter for documenting that :-). While I think git tools are OK, my opinion though is that Smalltalk hub should be moved forward as well. At cincom the Store experience started out painful and it has its quirks, but one of the advantages is that I could write tools to do things like

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo and GIT

2016-07-25 Thread Sean Glazier
I look forward to using Iceberg ! Kind Regards, Sean Glazier On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Peter Uhnak wrote: > Hi Juraj, > > I've finally forced myself to finish a guide on using gitfiletree: >

[Pharo-users] Spec: Capturing changes in a text morph

2016-07-25 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi, I'm migrating my grafoscopio interface from I'm trying to capture some changes in a text morph that is part of a Spec interface. The interface is split in 4 parts, as you can see at [a]: (1) a main menu, (2) a tree, (3) a node header input text and (4) a text morph. When you click any

Re: [Pharo-users] Can GitHubcello be used against BitBucket?

2016-07-25 Thread Thierry Goubier
Hi Sean, I think I got something working (at least it seems to be working... I'm tracking a bug, but I can't reproduce it now. In Pharo5). Try the following in Pharo 5. Add a remote git repository as usual from Monticello, but, instead of the MCFileTreeGitRemoteRepository location:

Re: [Pharo-users] Can GitHubcello be used against BitBucket?

2016-07-25 Thread Thierry Goubier
Hi Sean, I have a solution for you, with just a specific setup of git. It a bit 'by hand', but it should work (at least it worked for me on a private github repository). I'll give you first a reasonable approach (limit the effect to a single repository) and then a global approach (affect all

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo and GIT

2016-07-25 Thread Nicolas Passerini
On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 7:28 PM, Peter Uhnak wrote: > IceBerg, which is hopefully the future of git in Pharo ( > https://github.com/npasserini/iceberg ) > Well, I hope so :) Iceberg is under development, but beta testers and feedback are welcome. I will be happy to help you

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo and GIT

2016-07-25 Thread Thierry Goubier
Hi Peter, thanks for documenting all that :) Thierry Le 25/07/2016 à 19:28, Peter Uhnak a écrit : Hi Juraj, I've finally forced myself to finish a guide on using gitfiletree: https://www.peteruhnak.com/blog/2016/07/25/how-to-use-git-and-github-with-pharo/ so hopefully it will be of some

Re: [Pharo-users] What's the equivalent of Smalltalk osVersion in Pharo????

2016-07-25 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
> On 25 Jul 2016, at 20:34, Casimiro - GMAIL wrote: > > Em 25-07-2016 15:09, Peter Uhnák escreveu: >> You mean "OSPlatform current" ? > Thank you Smalltalk os version. OSPlatform current == Smalltalk os. So it can also be: OSPlatform current version. Esteban

Re: [Pharo-users] What's the equivalent of Smalltalk osVersion in Pharo????

2016-07-25 Thread Casimiro - GMAIL
Em 25-07-2016 15:09, Peter Uhnák escreveu: > You mean "OSPlatform current" ? Thank you > > Peter > > On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 7:29 PM, Casimiro - GMAIL > > wrote: > > Hello, > > What's the equivalent of Smalltallk osVersion in

Re: [Pharo-users] How learning Smalltalk can make you a better developer

2016-07-25 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
On 25/07/16 11:16, horrido wrote: BREAKING NEWS!!! My TechBeacon article has officially become the Most Popular at the website with the number of views exceeding 11,200. And this only the first week of publication! It all happened because HN asked me to repost the article last night.

Re: [Pharo-users] What's the equivalent of Smalltalk osVersion in Pharo????

2016-07-25 Thread Peter Uhnák
You mean "OSPlatform current" ? Peter On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 7:29 PM, Casimiro - GMAIL < casimiro.barr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > What's the equivalent of Smalltallk osVersion in pharo? > > > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo and GIT

2016-07-25 Thread Peter Uhnak
Hi Juraj, I've finally forced myself to finish a guide on using gitfiletree: https://www.peteruhnak.com/blog/2016/07/25/how-to-use-git-and-github-with-pharo/ so hopefully it will be of some use to you. Couple of notes: * GitFileTree loaded from Catalog still doesn't work in Pharo 6, so

Re: [Pharo-users] Can GitHubcello be used against BitBucket?

2016-07-25 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
As far as I can tell, the discussion is not about GitHubcello. If you need a help with GitHubcello please CC me, because I cannot follow everything. Uko > On 25 Jul 2016, at 17:50, Ben Coman wrote: > > Just a couple of articles to head off problems in case you first

Re: [Pharo-users] How learning Smalltalk can make you a better developer

2016-07-25 Thread horrido
BREAKING NEWS!!! My TechBeacon article has officially become the Most Popular at the website with the number of views exceeding 11,200. And this only the first week of publication! It all happened because HN asked me to repost the article last night. Apparently, they thought it deserved to be

Re: [Pharo-users] Can GitHubcello be used against BitBucket?

2016-07-25 Thread Ben Coman
Just a couple of articles to head off problems in case you first tried SSH and then switched to HTTPS. https://confluence.atlassian.com/bitbucket/change-the-remote-url-to-your-repository-794212774.html https://help.github.com/articles/changing-a-remote-s-url/ cheers -ben On Mon, Jul 25, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo 5 crashing

2016-07-25 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Sean Glazier wrote: > Hi, > > I have been saving and restarting my images all night and I carefully do a > save as regularly in case I toast an image. This morning I can not seem to > start up any of my images including a clean one. Strange

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo and GIT

2016-07-25 Thread Juraj Kubelka
Hi Alexandre, I will first give a try. I think once the Pharo community moves to GitHub, it will help to all. It could be painful, but SmalltalkHub is also painful and we are loosing other opportunities that GitHub service offers. I agree that it could be painful. I am fine using external GIT

Re: [Pharo-users] Can GitHubcello be used against BitBucket?

2016-07-25 Thread Dale Henrichs
On 7/25/16 7:50 AM, Thierry Goubier wrote: 2016-07-25 16:40 GMT+02:00 Dale Henrichs >: On 7/25/16 6:40 AM, Thierry Goubier wrote: Hi Dale, what I'd like is a way to detect if credentials

Re: [Pharo-users] Can GitHubcello be used against BitBucket?

2016-07-25 Thread Thierry Goubier
2016-07-25 16:40 GMT+02:00 Dale Henrichs : > > > On 7/25/16 6:40 AM, Thierry Goubier wrote: > >> Hi Dale, >> >> what I'd like is a way to detect if credentials are necessary on a https >> repo, and add (or ask for them) at the smalltalk level. >> > Well the user

Re: [Pharo-users] UPnP/IGD implementation

2016-07-25 Thread stepharo
Croquet is GPL licensed (at least the one I checked it was). so you should pay attention because it is a viral license. Stef Le 25/7/16 à 16:04, Sean Glazier a écrit : you should look at croquet. I believe it was in pharo and they had code to configure the router so they tunnel through. I

Re: [Pharo-users] Can GitHubcello be used against BitBucket?

2016-07-25 Thread Dale Henrichs
On 7/25/16 6:40 AM, Thierry Goubier wrote: Hi Dale, what I'd like is a way to detect if credentials are necessary on a https repo, and add (or ask for them) at the smalltalk level. Well the user should know from the get-go that they are using a private repo and if they supply an https:

Re: [Pharo-users] UPnP/IGD implementation

2016-07-25 Thread Norbert Hartl
Thanks, am I wrong in assuming the UPnP and IGD are rather huge and complicated things to implement? I just want to figure out if there is a clear answer to the question if implementing a subset or using a library (mini upnp) through FFI is more feasible. Norbert > Am 25.07.2016 um 16:10

Re: [Pharo-users] UPnP/IGD implementation

2016-07-25 Thread Henrik Johansen
> On 25 Jul 2016, at 12:13 , Norbert Hartl wrote: > > Does anyone know some code or person that did something with UPnP/IGD in > pharo? > > thanks, > > Norbert I've done an SSDP client/server, but not gone so far as to build a full UPnP model on top of it, since I just

Re: [Pharo-users] UPnP/IGD implementation

2016-07-25 Thread Sean Glazier
you should look at croquet. I believe it was in pharo and they had code to configure the router so they tunnel through. I used something similar to do port forwarding in VW so opentalk and DST could talk through a firewall and connections from the outside could be sent back etc. Kind Regards,

Re: [Pharo-users] Can GitHubcello be used against BitBucket?

2016-07-25 Thread Thierry Goubier
Hi Sean, what you see here is the Monticello way of expressing repositories, and it was my choice to limit it to ssh access to git; Metacello uses a different syntax and allways work with the web api of each web git provider (github / bitbucket) over https. Thierry 2016-07-25 15:38 GMT+02:00

Re: [Pharo-users] Can GitHubcello be used against BitBucket?

2016-07-25 Thread Sean Glazier
On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Dale Henrichs < dale.henri...@gemtalksystems.com> wrote: > M Hi, I saw that class but did not know how to apply it. in metacello when i clicked on +Respository the was not a pattern for using it in the git remote repository pattern. Please forgive my ignorance

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo and GIT

2016-07-25 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Hi Juraj, Although I find very appealing to work with Git, it is still very painful. Some of the issues I feel right now: difficult of merging, checking for source code differences, there is unfortunately a difference between installing using Metacello and cloning a repository, … We can

Re: [Pharo-users] Can GitHubcello be used against BitBucket?

2016-07-25 Thread Dale Henrichs
On 7/24/16 6:42 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: Dale Henrichs-3 wrote Yes, Metacello supports bitbucket:// repos... N.B. IIRC I wasn't able to use it for my private projects because it doesn't work with private repos accessed via SSH Could it be that the issue has to do with https

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo and GIT

2016-07-25 Thread Thierry Goubier
Hi Juraj, I haven't created a Pharo6 configuration for GitFileTree, for now loading should be done by Metacello. Metacello new baseline: 'FileTree'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/filetree:pharo6.0_dev/repository'; load: 'Git' 2016-07-25 14:41 GMT+02:00 Juraj Kubelka

[Pharo-users] Pharo and GIT

2016-07-25 Thread Juraj Kubelka
Hi, can you point me to a latest (best) way to use GitHub for Pharo projects (Pharo 6)? Is the GitFileTree project the way to use it? How does ConfigurationOf change? Thanks! Juraj

Re: [Pharo-users] Can GitHubcello be used against BitBucket?

2016-07-25 Thread Thierry Goubier
Hi Sean, I think the issue is simply that GitFileTree does not support https with authentification. You need to switch to ssh with keys. Now, about the various options you add on the git push command line (diff.mnemonicprefix, core.quotepath), could you detail them? The seems to be unnecessary

[Pharo-users] UPnP/IGD implementation

2016-07-25 Thread Norbert Hartl
Does anyone know some code or person that did something with UPnP/IGD in pharo? thanks, Norbert

[Pharo-users] pharo 5 crashing

2016-07-25 Thread Sean Glazier
Hi, I have been saving and restarting my images all night and I carefully do a save as regularly in case I toast an image. This morning I can not seem to start up any of my images including a clean one. Head scratch. std err has it dying in the weak array finalization process. Could I get

Re: [Pharo-users] Can GitHubcello be used against BitBucket?

2016-07-25 Thread Sean Glazier
some more information the git command that it runs is git -C "C:\pharo5win\new-qline" This is run in the method MCFileTreeGitRemoteRepository>>runProcessWrapperGitCommand: anArrayOfStrings in: aDirectory. It is stuck on the line: command waitForExit. this wait for exit has no timeout to it and