Re: [Pharo-users] About balkanisation

2016-11-06 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
btw this is pharo-dev discussion, redirecting there. Esteban > On 7 Nov 2016, at 08:50, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > We are developing Iceberg… and I know is not enough :) > Which “unifying tools” are you referring ? > > I have followed very close your TOdE development…

Re: [Pharo-users] About balkanisation

2016-11-06 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
We are developing Iceberg… and I know is not enough :) Which “unifying tools” are you referring ? I have followed very close your TOdE development… in a moment I was planning a migration of it for pure-pharo, just… lack of time as always and then later we started iceberg. now, we are in the

Re: [Pharo-users] [ALERT] Pharo by Example version 5 is about to be released

2016-11-06 Thread Nicolai Hess
Am 06.11.2016 21:04 schrieb "Dimitris Chloupis" : > > yeah as I said the chapter needs a complete rewrite. I am not even it is necessary to exist separately. > > On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 9:27 PM Nicolai Hess wrote: >> >> 2016-11-03 15:11 GMT+01:00

Re: [Pharo-users] about balkanisation

2016-11-06 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Mcz repos are useful. STH storage works nicely, that's more the frontend which si bitrotting. I actually have a local FTP based thing on my Synology and it is neat and needs no time to work. Did you ever look into Zinc and see there is also a server there for that? Now, GitHub is better for

Re: [Pharo-users] About balkanisation

2016-11-06 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Dale, I think I missed your mails. I would be interested in hearing your opinion. Let’s aim for a chat sometime next week. Would this work for you? Cheers, Doru > On Nov 7, 2016, at 6:30 AM, Dale Henrichs > wrote: > > > > On 11/6/16 1:12 PM, Tudor

Re: [Pharo-users] About balkanisation

2016-11-06 Thread Dale Henrichs
On 11/6/16 1:12 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: Hi Stef, I think that you are raising a valid point, and I actually agree with it. But I think there is another side of the coin as well. I think that right now we are in between worlds and this is not quite beneficial. Switching to GitHub is a

Re: [Pharo-users] About balkanisation

2016-11-06 Thread Dale Henrichs
On 11/6/16 9:05 AM, stepharo wrote: Hi I would like that you think a bit about our community and that there is a value in using common tools to share and develop common libraries. Because to me it feels like we are getting balkanize. It may look super cool and be hyper trendy to use

Re: [Pharo-users] about balkanisation

2016-11-06 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 6 November 2016 at 17:21, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > Kilon wrote: > > If you really want to embrace Github , kill Smalltalkhub > > We are not close to doing that. We'll need > Monticello support indefinitely, and at least a few years two-way. And > that assumes we

Re: [Pharo-users] may I please be added to the Mercap/HighchartsSt repo

2016-11-06 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Paul, Quick comment: I was about to make an ANN soon but I have been refactoring it a LOT these last days and I did: 1) make it fully the auto-generation code (already done) 2) making it work for highcharts 5.0.2 (already done) 3) start supporting highstocks (was going to start this this

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo desktop UI

2016-11-06 Thread vikenti
Maybe you can give some brief explanaition how to create Spec-compatible custom UI control? (Like TextModel or ButtonModel, etc.) How to create model class, corresponding adapter and how to process common and custom UI events (mouse\keyboard\focus ordering\changing). I think such guide should

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Shared Memory with C++ executable

2016-11-06 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
> On 6 Nov 2016, at 22:17, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > > > "Now my challenges after reading the UFFI documentation are the following oh crap… I forget I have to finish that :( UFFO doc: back to my TODO list... Esteban > > 1) How I can pass things like O_CREAT ,

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Shared Memory with C++ executable

2016-11-06 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
"Now my challenges after reading the UFFI documentation are the following 1) How I can pass things like O_CREAT , MAP_SHARED 2) How I cast a void pointer (its what mmap returns) to a C++ string or C++ int" After carefully re-reading the documentation its seems the answer to question 1 is that I

Re: [Pharo-users] How to consume the MOOC?

2016-11-06 Thread Luke Gorrie
Hi Stepharo, On 5 November 2016 at 18:14, stepharo wrote: > you can use the webportal (it supports subtitles in french and english - > but read carefully what we wrote because we got trapped into a bug with > certain configurations). > >

Re: [Pharo-users] [ALERT] Pharo by Example version 5 is about to be released

2016-11-06 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
yeah as I said the chapter needs a complete rewrite. I am not even it is necessary to exist separately. On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 9:27 PM Nicolai Hess wrote: > 2016-11-03 15:11 GMT+01:00 Nicolai Hess : > > > > 2016-11-03 15:02 GMT+01:00 stepharo

Re: [Pharo-users] [ALERT] Pharo by Example version 5 is about to be released

2016-11-06 Thread Nicolai Hess
2016-11-03 15:11 GMT+01:00 Nicolai Hess : > > > 2016-11-03 15:02 GMT+01:00 stepharo : > >> Hi nicolai >> >> I started to work on the reflection chapter. >> > > > The reflection chapter (and maybe some other too) could new some new > screenshots. >

Re: [Pharo-users] About balkanisation

2016-11-06 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
And for us, without Git :-). Offray On 06/11/16 13:27, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: I agree Pharo works great for me with Git apart from the file tree issue. On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 at 20:22, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas > wrote: Hi,

Re: [Pharo-users] About balkanisation

2016-11-06 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
The commit messages, say nothing about the commits On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 at 17:47, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > > On 6 Nov 2016, at 16:27, Dimitris Chloupis > wrote: > > > > A biggy one is the pharo repo of the pharo image on github. Its a mess. > > > >

Re: [Pharo-users] About balkanisation

2016-11-06 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
I agree Pharo works great for me with Git apart from the file tree issue. On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 at 20:22, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas < offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote: > Hi, > > This thread derived on using GitHub, the transitions to it, the mismatch > between the Smalltalk code model and the

Re: [Pharo-users] About balkanisation

2016-11-06 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi, This thread derived on using GitHub, the transitions to it, the mismatch between the Smalltalk code model and the files code model. I would like to offer another view. Pharo is working pretty well here. We have just finished our seventh edition of the Data Week workshop+hackathon. This

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo desktop UI

2016-11-06 Thread Johan Fabry
Hello Vikenti, I think that you are using the SpecAdapter for morphs in ways it has never been tried or used. So the problems you are having reveal bugs in the SpecAdapter. Please file a bug report, and feel free to contribute a fix as well of course ;-) (more about bugreports here:

[Pharo-users] Pharo Shared Memory with C++ executable

2016-11-06 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Hey fellow Pharoers I have great news, I was able to finally understand how shared memory file works and actually do it Why is that great news you may ask. A shared memory file is a file that maps a specific area of memory, which means when you write to a specific part of the memory it

Re: [Pharo-users] about balkanisation

2016-11-06 Thread stepharo
Le 6/11/16 à 17:21, Stephan Eggermont a écrit : Kilon wrote: If you really want to embrace Github , kill Smalltalkhub We are not close to doing that. We'll need Monticello support indefinitely, and at least a few years two-way. And that assumes we automatically migrate all open projects.

Re: [Pharo-users] About balkanisation

2016-11-06 Thread stepharo
Le 6/11/16 à 17:12, Tudor Girba a écrit : Hi Stef, I think that you are raising a valid point, and I actually agree with it. But I think there is another side of the coin as well. I think that right now we are in between worlds and this is not quite beneficial. Switching to GitHub is a

Re: [Pharo-users] about balkanisation

2016-11-06 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Kilon wrote: > If you really want to embrace Github , kill Smalltalkhub We are not close to doing that. We'll need Monticello support indefinitely, and at least a few years two-way. And that assumes we automatically migrate all open projects. First we need good workflows that also work for

Re: [Pharo-users] About balkanisation

2016-11-06 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Stef, I think that you are raising a valid point, and I actually agree with it. But I think there is another side of the coin as well. I think that right now we are in between worlds and this is not quite beneficial. Switching to GitHub is a significant effort, and treating it as business

Re: [Pharo-users] About balkanisation

2016-11-06 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 6 Nov 2016, at 16:27, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > > A biggy one is the pharo repo of the pharo image on github. Its a mess. > > https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commits/6.0 > > seriously, Github makes us visible , this does not look good at all. why not

Re: [Pharo-users] About balkanisation

2016-11-06 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
If you really want to embrace Github , kill Smalltalkhub. Smalltalkhub should have been dead years ago. Its unmaintained anyway apart from when it crashes and Esteban fixes. Smalltalkhub has been a constant state from crashes since 2011 when I joined Pharo community. Give people a month to move

Re: [Pharo-users] About balkanisation

2016-11-06 Thread stepharo
Dimitris better reread what I wrote because you missed it. My point is let us minimize the mess and act in a concerted way. Do you think that we would pay 9 months of dev + esteban that will started to push there too and base all our dev on it if we would not believe that moving to git is

Re: [Pharo-users] About balkanisation

2016-11-06 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
> It may look super cool and be hyper trendy to use github (because like > that you can say that you use latest hyper cool > > features), but I would like to ask especially people building libraries > to pay attention that it is important > > that other people can contribute back easily and that

[Pharo-users] About balkanisation

2016-11-06 Thread stepharo
Hi I would like that you think a bit about our community and that there is a value in using common tools to share and develop common libraries. Because to me it feels like we are getting balkanize. It may look super cool and be hyper trendy to use github (because like that you can say

Re: [Pharo-users] May I please be added as a contributor to the KevinLanvin/MaterialDesignLite repo on Sthub?

2016-11-06 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Hi, > On 5 Nov 2016, at 22:28, stepharo wrote: > > I do not think that Kevin is following this list. I strongly suggest that the > repo is moved to one that we can control and let people contribute. > AFAIK this is the case: https://github.com/DuneSt/MaterialDesignLite

Re: [Pharo-users] Forgive me

2016-11-06 Thread p...@highoctane.be
As any person with an ounce of self awareness. Remember that you are one interesting way the universe is introspecting itself. Phil On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Robert Withers wrote: > Thank you. It breaks my heart I'm who I am, so at odds with who I wish to

Re: [Pharo-users] Speed up JPG images loading

2016-11-06 Thread Ben Coman
What does the Time Profiler show? Can you link to a sample picture? cheers -ben On Sat, Nov 5, 2016 at 11:11 PM, Matteo via Pharo-users wrote: > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Matteo > To: "Pharo is welcome (ML)"

Re: [Pharo-users] Forgive me

2016-11-06 Thread p...@highoctane.be
You are forgiven. Now get back to delivering us awesome features. Namaste. Phil On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 8:24 AM, Robert Withers wrote: > Forgive me for being such a huge unbearable fucking asshole. > > > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Can pharo association web page point to association.pharo.org, like the consortium one?

2016-11-06 Thread John Pfersich
Great! Thanks for all your work. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 5, 2016, at 04:31, Marcus Denker wrote: > > Hi, > > Current Status: > > - SPF record DONE, mails are now send from @association.pharo.org > - DNS setup now uses association.pharo.org for normal viewing,