Re: [Pharo-users] Projects using Magritte meta models

2018-04-20 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Rafael Luque wrote > I wonder if there are other relevant projects I could study to discover > other possible > uses cases of Magritte. I use it in nearly all my personal projects, almost always via Morphic, not Seaside. Here is a public one you can have a look at:

Re: [Pharo-users] min:max:

2018-04-20 Thread Ben Coman
On 21 April 2018 at 03:51, Hilaire wrote: > Hi, > > Out of curiosity. > > I always found the #min:max: confusing and lost in its expressiveness. > > One should write: > > 10 min: 48 max: 12 > > to expect 12. > > but logically one (at least me) may want to express it as: > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Where do we go now ?

2018-04-20 Thread David T. Lewis
On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 07:08:29AM -0700, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Stephane Ducasse-3 wrote > > I like when developers are talking about names: > > They use a mac and not a computer, they were nike, lewis and not shoes > > and pants > > So guys can we focus our energy on positive things. > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Where do we go now ?

2018-04-20 Thread Andrei Stebakov
That would definitely help if Pharo shed some of its elitism with fancy names. Then it would have much more appeal for the masses (and definitely increase popularity of Smalltalk) but it is the intent of the community, that's the question. On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 4:09 PM, Benoit St-Jean via

Re: [Pharo-users] min:max:

2018-04-20 Thread herby
On April 21, 2018 12:12:10 AM GMT+02:00, Chris Cunningham wrote: >A name like this would be clearer (although much more annoying): > >returnAtLeast: minValue butNoMoreThan: maxValue >10 returnAtLeast: 12 butNoMoreThan: 48 #beBetween:and: or #boundedBetween:and:

Re: [Pharo-users] min:max:

2018-04-20 Thread Chris Cunningham
A name like this would be clearer (although much more annoying): returnAtLeast: minValue butNoMoreThan: maxValue 10 returnAtLeast: 12 butNoMoreThan: 48 Thanks, cbc On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 12:51 PM, Hilaire wrote: > Hi, > > Out of curiosity. > > I always found the

Re: [Pharo-users] Where do we go now ?

2018-04-20 Thread Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-users
--- Begin Message --- I concur with Sean's comments.  The problem is not using names : the problem is for new users. A very quick look at what's in Pharo 7 shows the following names : Iceberg, Ombu, Calypso, Flashback, Nautilus, Renraku, Zodiac, Shift, Zinc, Hermes, Beacon, Cargo, Hermes,

[Pharo-users] Projects using Magritte meta models

2018-04-20 Thread Rafael Luque
Hi all, I'm studying Magritte reading the booklet, Seaside book chapter about it, and the source code in the image. Until now the examples I've found are related with Seaside. I wonder if there are other relevant projects I could study to discover other possible uses cases of Magritte. Thank

[Pharo-users] min:max:

2018-04-20 Thread Hilaire
Hi, Out of curiosity. I always found the #min:max: confusing and lost in its expressiveness. One should write:     10 min: 48 max: 12 to expect 12. but logically one (at least me) may want to express it as:     10 min: 12 max: 48 Then when reading its source code, it is even more

Re: [Pharo-users] #(foo bar baz) min

2018-04-20 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 20 Apr 2018, at 20:42, Herbert Vojčík wrote: > > Hi all! > > Somehow intuitively I presume the subject line to return #bar, but it fails > with ByteString not knowing min:, in Pharo 6.1. > > Is it a bug, bug fixed in Pharo 7, or a feature? > > Herby I would say that

[Pharo-users] #(foo bar baz) min

2018-04-20 Thread Herbert Vojčík
Hi all! Somehow intuitively I presume the subject line to return #bar, but it fails with ByteString not knowing min:, in Pharo 6.1. Is it a bug, bug fixed in Pharo 7, or a feature? Herby

Re: [Pharo-users] Best method for connecting to an Oracle 11g database

2018-04-20 Thread Aaron Blakeman
Hi, I was trying garage, but I was using the instructions for installation from here: https://guillep.github.io/DBXTalk/garage/installation.html I was able to load garage from https://github.com/pharo-rdbms, but the method described at https://guillep.github.io/DBXTalk/garage/installation.html

Re: [Pharo-users] Where do we go now ?

2018-04-20 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Stephane Ducasse-3 wrote > I like when developers are talking about names: > They use a mac and not a computer, they were nike, lewis and not shoes > and pants > So guys can we focus our energy on positive things. IHMO this is certainly a positive subject because it highlights the

Re: [Pharo-users] Best method for connecting to an Oracle 11g database

2018-04-20 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
At the time my company tested Pharo to access Oracle databases, the OpenDBX driver support was lousy and it was hard to make it work in Windows. Also Garage isn't tested against it. So our resolution was that Oracle isn't supported by any driver for Pharo unless you are in Windows and can use

Re: [Pharo-users] Where do we go now ?

2018-04-20 Thread Stephane Ducasse
> > On this matter, when I named my project, "Grafoscopio" I thought in > something evocative and unique, because of the Spanish words "grafo" > (graph) and grafía[1][2] (graphy, related with writing like in > "ortografía" "orthography". After naming it I discover there was a old > device related

Re: [Pharo-users] Best method for connecting to an Oracle 11g database

2018-04-20 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi Arron Did you try Garage from https://github.com/pharo-rdbms Stef On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 7:22 AM, Aaron Blakeman wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to use Pharo 6 to connect to an Oracle 11g database. I tried > using dbxtalk with the opendbx driver, but I