Re: [Pharo-users] Latest Voyage for Pharo4

2017-02-21 Thread Dale Henrichs
Oops, wrong project name: Metacello image project: 'Seaside3'; list I'll send mail to you privately to exchange the image .. Thanks, Dale On 02/21/2017 11:00 AM, Hilaire wrote: Hi Dale, Le 21/02/2017 à 18:30, Dale Henrichs a écrit : Metacello image project: 'Seaside';

Re: [Pharo-users] Latest Voyage for Pharo4

2017-02-21 Thread Hilaire
Hi Dale, Le 21/02/2017 à 18:30, Dale Henrichs a écrit : > Metacello image > project: 'Seaside'; > list It returns an empty list in this image. Can you send me privately your email at hilaire [AT] drgeo.eu so I can send you a link? (I am reading through gmane news forum and email address

Re: [Pharo-users] Latest Voyage for Pharo4

2017-02-21 Thread Dale Henrichs
On 02/20/2017 09:08 AM, Hilaire wrote: Dale, I try out the lock feature on an archived image, the seaside uprade was still operating :( Hmm, do you think it would be possible to share your image with me ... it's bad enough that the Seaside is getting updated in a mysterious manner, but now

Re: [Pharo-users] Latest Voyage for Pharo4

2017-02-21 Thread Dale Henrichs
On 02/19/2017 11:21 PM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: On 19/02/17 18:50, Dale Henrichs wrote: Hilaire, I mentioned last night that I thought that there was a better solution to your problem and I think that if you load the latest Metacello and then lock Seaside3: Metacello image

Re: [Pharo-users] Latest Voyage for Pharo4

2017-02-20 Thread Hilaire
Dale, I try out the lock feature on an archived image, the seaside uprade was still operating :( I updated this image with latest Metacello, then I locked it as: Metacello image configuration: 'Seaside3'; version: '3.1.4.2'; "most recent 3.1.x version" lock. It was the version

Re: [Pharo-users] Latest Voyage for Pharo4

2017-02-20 Thread Hilaire
I will try to get a look at your lock feature, and report. Thanks Hilaire Le 19/02/2017 à 18:50, Dale Henrichs a écrit : > I mentioned last night that I thought that there was a better solution > to your problem and I think that if you load the latest Metacello and > then lock Seaside3: --

Re: [Pharo-users] Latest Voyage for Pharo4

2017-02-20 Thread Hilaire
Le 20/02/2017 à 08:19, Stephan Eggermont a écrit : >> May be it is more a policy problem on the quality of the configuration >> than a tool problem, a lot can be learn from Debian packaging. > > I don't have that impression. They seem to have the same problem with > old and less-used stuff. As

Re: [Pharo-users] Latest Voyage for Pharo4

2017-02-19 Thread Stephan Eggermont
On 19/02/17 18:50, Dale Henrichs wrote: Hilaire, I mentioned last night that I thought that there was a better solution to your problem and I think that if you load the latest Metacello and then lock Seaside3: Metacello image configuration: 'Seaside3'; version: '3.1.5'; "most recent

Re: [Pharo-users] Latest Voyage for Pharo4

2017-02-19 Thread Stephan Eggermont
On 18/02/17 16:32, Hilaire wrote: update, this should NOT happen. Now image comes with a Configuration Browser, if I understand correctly its intend, an user is expected those configurations to work happily together, but it looks like not, some configurations will request update breaking package

Re: [Pharo-users] Latest Voyage for Pharo4

2017-02-19 Thread Dale Henrichs
Hilaire, I mentioned last night that I thought that there was a better solution to your problem and I think that if you load the latest Metacello and then lock Seaside3: Metacello image configuration: 'Seaside3'; version: '3.1.5'; "most recent 3.1.x version" lock. Then load

Re: [Pharo-users] Latest Voyage for Pharo4

2017-02-18 Thread Dale Henrichs
On 2/18/17 7:32 AM, Hilaire wrote: Dale, May be you don't want to waste anymore time on that. Thanks for your effort. I got a way to get Voyage installed in my development image. Well I am still curious why you are having trouble ... Not sure what wrong, because something is wrong[1], but

Re: [Pharo-users] Latest Voyage for Pharo4

2017-02-18 Thread Hilaire
Dale, May be you don't want to waste anymore time on that. Thanks for your effort. I got a way to get Voyage installed in my development image. Not sure what wrong, because something is wrong[1], but I got the things installed, first update to Seaside, which break when upgrading the Seaside

Re: [Pharo-users] Latest Voyage for Pharo4

2017-02-17 Thread Hilaire
The configuration of seaside is the same before and after the 'Monticello new' loads. #278 It match the fact you don't see a ConfigurationOfSeaside3 download in the transcript. As I wrote in a previous email, if Seaside is not installed, the install of Voyage doesn't trigger a Seaside install.

Re: [Pharo-users] Latest Voyage for Pharo4

2017-02-17 Thread Dale Henrichs
Again, thanks for detailed info ... The fact that you loaded Seaside3.1.x is good enough for my purposes .. the fact that Seaside3.2 is getting installed implies that there is a hard dependency on Seaside in one of the projects (Magritte3 perhaps?) ... odd that ConfigurationOfSeaside3

Re: [Pharo-users] Latest Voyage for Pharo4

2017-02-17 Thread Hilaire
Hi Dale, Thanks for your detailed suggestions. I follow instructions, here the report bellow. Installed newest Metacello, then Voyage with new style: Metacello new baseline: 'Metacello'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/metacello-work:master/repository'; get. Metacello new baseline:

Re: [Pharo-users] Latest Voyage for Pharo4

2017-02-17 Thread Dale Henrichs
Hilaire, Thanks for the detailed information ... I see that you are using the old-style loading of Voyage (`ConfigurationOfVoyageMongo load`) ... when using this style of loading, Metacello has to guess about which projects are loaded and what version of the project is loaded. I is possible

Re: [Pharo-users] Latest Voyage for Pharo4

2017-02-17 Thread Hilaire
Hi Dale, At first I was more thinking of a problem in the dependencies of Voyage, but then it seems not as with unload Seaside, Voyage get load. It did not help anyway becasue Seaside can't be reinstalled (Obsolete class syndrom hit there) Voyage is installed as: "VoyageMongo

Re: [Pharo-users] Latest Voyage for Pharo4

2017-02-17 Thread Dale Henrichs
Hilaire, You don't mention how you are loading Voyage. If I had the load expression and Transcript output from the load, I'd pretty much be able to tell pretty much what is going on. I have a couple of theories about what could be going wrong, but without the load expression and Transcript

Re: [Pharo-users] Latest Voyage for Pharo4

2017-02-17 Thread Hilaire
Trying to understand this problem: >From my development image, I uninstalled all seaside, then I installed Voyage. This time it went fine AND Seaside-core *was not* installed during the process. What the heck is going on? When Seaside was present in my dev. image, installing Voyage make

Re: [Pharo-users] Latest Voyage for Pharo4

2017-02-17 Thread Hilaire
Some more info. Installing the configuration of Voyage from Pharo4 itself also breaks the installed Seaside, which was previously installed from the Pharo4 configuration too. Now when installing the Voyage configuration, it warns about installing Seaside-Core and the conflict with installed

[Pharo-users] Latest Voyage for Pharo4

2017-02-17 Thread Hilaire
Hi, I need to test Voyage for a project in development but... installing Voyage on Pharo4 with Seaside already installed (from Pharo4 configuration) produces a broken Seaside installation. Voyage installation installs Seaside-core, which in turn break the installed Seaside. It is strange