Re: [Pharo-users] Web stack practices (Glorp / QCMagritte)

2017-09-24 Thread Stephane Ducasse
So if the consortium makes an effort and support the cost would it help. Or is it for nothing? What if you come to visit us? Stef On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Laurent Laffont wrote: > Thanks Stef, it would be nice, nevertheless I don't think the boss will pay > a

Re: [Pharo-users] Web stack practices (Glorp / QCMagritte)

2017-09-23 Thread Laurent Laffont
Thanks Stef, it would be nice, nevertheless I don't think the boss will pay a consultant :( Laurent Le 22 septembre 2017 18:18:32 GMT+02:00, Stephane Ducasse a écrit : >Laurent > >do you need that we send someone to your place to help? > >Stef > >On Fri, Sep 22,

Re: [Pharo-users] Web stack practices (Glorp / QCMagritte)

2017-09-22 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Laurent just for the record, back in 2008-9 the largest web app in south america in terms of users has been developed by extending Magritte and done by Esteban (the business model was bad and it died but not for technical reason). Stef On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 6:21 PM, Stephane Ducasse

Re: [Pharo-users] Web stack practices (Glorp / QCMagritte)

2017-09-22 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Laurent do you need that we send someone to your place to help? Stef On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:28 AM, laurent wrote: > Hi Stephan, > > actually the difficult part is how to manage correctly Glorp > sessions/connections and update of objects in database. My team is

Re: [Pharo-users] Web stack practices (Glorp / QCMagritte)

2017-09-22 Thread H. Hirzel
On 9/22/17, Diego Lont wrote: > There is actually a tutorial included in the framework itself. Great! >One you have > it loaded, you can start the webpage to localhost:8080 and there you have > your tutorial. But this tutorial should be on a external webpage … one of >

Re: [Pharo-users] Web stack practices (Glorp / QCMagritte)

2017-09-22 Thread Diego Lont
There is actually a tutorial included in the framework itself. One you have it loaded, you can start the webpage to localhost:8080 and there you have your tutorial. But this tutorial should be on a external webpage … one of the things on my todo list. > On 22 Sep 2017, at 12:55, H. Hirzel

Re: [Pharo-users] Web stack practices (Glorp / QCMagritte)

2017-09-22 Thread H. Hirzel
On 9/18/17, laurent wrote: > Hi all, > > it's been a long time :) At work we are currently comparing several > technologies to start a business project that will hopefully be used by > thousands of people for several years ;) > > We need a web stack and we put Pharo &

Re: [Pharo-users] Web stack practices (Glorp / QCMagritte)

2017-09-22 Thread H. Hirzel
Hello Diego What does QC in QCMagritte stand for? I understand that QCMagritte is an application framework on top of Seaside and Magritte. I found this presentation https://www.slideshare.net/esug/getting-started-with-qcmagritte Is there a home page with more information? Regards Hannes

Re: [Pharo-users] Web stack practices (Glorp / QCMagritte)

2017-09-22 Thread Diego Lont
Hi Laurent, I am happy that you like QCMagritte. I wrote quite some parts of it, but it also has been a while since I last used it. I try to support it in my spare time, so I will look into the issue that prevents it from loading into pharo 6. Here some ideas that I think of, QCMagritte is a

Re: [Pharo-users] Web stack practices (Glorp / QCMagritte)

2017-09-22 Thread laurent
Hi Stephan, actually the difficult part is how to manage correctly Glorp sessions/connections and update of objects in database. My team is quite sad because QCMagritte and Glorp looks nice but we lack experience glueing both together and could not find any documentation on the subject.

Re: [Pharo-users] Web stack practices (Glorp / QCMagritte)

2017-09-22 Thread laurent
Hi Richard, Laurent, I realize you are asking this on the Pharo list, looking for a Pharo-specific answer. You should also post your requirements on the GLASS list (http://forum.world.st/GLASS-f1460844.html). A number of people/businesses there use a /develop on Pharo, deploy on GemStone

Re: [Pharo-users] Web stack practices (Glorp / QCMagritte)

2017-09-20 Thread stephan
On 18-09-17 12:22, laurent wrote: We try QCMagritte and we enjoy what we see so far. What are the best practices to glue Magritte and Glorp together ? Especially when you load-balance requests on several images. Some examples ? ( FYI, I cannot load QCMagritte in a fresh Pharo 6 image ( for

Re: [Pharo-users] Web stack practices (Glorp / QCMagritte)

2017-09-19 Thread Richard Sargent
laurent laffont wrote > Hi all, > > it's been a long time :) At work we are currently comparing several > technologies to start a business project that will hopefully be used by > thousands of people for several years ;) Laurent, I realize you are asking this on the Pharo list, looking for a

Re: [Pharo-users] Web stack practices (Glorp / QCMagritte)

2017-09-19 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi laurent Let us know how we can help. If necessary we can send our 15 year experience Java Architect and nearly the same in Pharo (Esteban) to meet you at Annecy. Did you see that Sven released also a native driver for SQL30? I do not remember. I do not know if you see but sorabito deploys

Re: [Pharo-users] Web stack practices (Glorp / QCMagritte)

2017-09-19 Thread laurent
Thank you Esteban & Joachim for your answers. Laurent Le lun. 18 sept. 2017 à 14:58, jtuc...@objektfabrik.de a écrit : Laurent, I don't have answers to all your questions, but we use Glorp & Seaside (no Magritte) on VA Smalltalk for our cloud service

Re: [Pharo-users] Web stack practices (Glorp / QCMagritte)

2017-09-18 Thread jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
Laurent, I don't have answers to all your questions, but we use Glorp & Seaside (no Magritte) on VA Smalltalk for our cloud service (http://kontolino.de). Am 18.09.17 um 12:22 schrieb laurent: Hi all, it's been a long time :) At work we are currently comparing several technologies to

Re: [Pharo-users] Web stack practices (Glorp / QCMagritte)

2017-09-18 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
Laurent, Regarding QCMagritte I don't know, since I don't use it. I've used Magritte and Glorp, but didn't bind them, the only special thing I built for it was an "evented memento" that let me edit a tree of objects (1:N relations derived from the edited object) within a single DB transaction.

[Pharo-users] Web stack practices (Glorp / QCMagritte)

2017-09-18 Thread laurent
Hi all, it's been a long time :) At work we are currently comparing several technologies to start a business project that will hopefully be used by thousands of people for several years ;) We need a web stack and we put Pharo & co in the comparative process. My team have strong experience