Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

But we should improve. It would be good to have someone taking that challenge because he would impact our all lives :) Le 10/10/15 12:22, Werner Kassens a écrit : On 10/10/2015 09:50 AM, stepharo wrote: the code should be in the image :) Hi Stephane, of course. but sometimes i only discove

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

On 10/10/2015 09:50 AM, stepharo wrote: the code should be in the image :) Hi Stephane, of course. but sometimes i only discover some nice pharo code by reading a paper. i discovered ocompletion in the image only after having read that paper mentioned by Peter, and - thinking "yes, that shoul

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

the code should be in the image :) Le 7/10/15 18:31, Werner Kassens a écrit : Hi Peter, the difference between the paper i mentioned (JASE-completion) and ASE2008-completion (both accessible) is, i think, that in the first one also the class-level code completion of ocompletion is explained.

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

Hi Peter, the difference between the paper i mentioned (JASE-completion) and ASE2008-completion (both accessible) is, i think, that in the first one also the class-level code completion of ocompletion is explained. (i think that part was later added to ocompletion or so) werner

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

thanks Peter werner On 10/07/2015 05:28 PM, Peter Uhnák wrote: This is different paper, I've posted accessible link earlier: On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Peter Uhnák mailto:i.uh...@gmail.com>> wrote: I'm currently going through http://users.dcc.uchile.cl/~rrobbes/p/ASE2008-completi

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Werner Kassens wrote: > just fwiw, i looked at http://www.squeaksource.com/OCompletion/ and there > was a paper about ocompletion mentioned, but the access to this paper was > forbidden - at least for me. but at > http://users.dcc.uchile.cl/~rrobbes/p/JASE-completi

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

just fwiw, i looked at http://www.squeaksource.com/OCompletion/ and there was a paper about ocompletion mentioned, but the access to this paper was forbidden - at least for me. but at http://users.dcc.uchile.cl/~rrobbes/p/JASE-completion.pdf there is a paper about ocompletion by the same author

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

> On 06 Oct 2015, at 21:20, Peter Uhnák wrote: > > > (did you know, that there is a shortcut to jump from one message send > > argument to another (not related to completion, but very helpful). Sadly > > this is gone or I couldn't find it in rubrics shortcut handling). > > maybe this is relat

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

Well I tried to understand how NECompletion works , after a month of reading and rereading code still could not figure out how it works. I understood the basics, but the details were so difficult to really track down. Its very spagetified, a usual pharo issue, and of course undocumented. I decided

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

> (did you know, that there is a shortcut to jump from one message send argument to another (not related to completion, but very helpful). Sadly this is gone or I couldn't find it in rubrics shortcut handling). maybe this is related to Settings > Code Browsing > AST navigation? (I've never actuall

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

About an alternative way to do code completion: This is the paper: http://macbeth.cs.ucdavis.edu/cacheca.pdf this is the code repository: https://github.com/christinef/CACHECA and this is the tool in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3INk0N3JNtc This was the student I was in contact with.

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

In fact NOC is the code of romain robbes (we took the best version that he described in his phd) Now the code needs some love. Stef Le 6/10/15 15:53, Nicolai Hess a écrit : 2015-10-06 15:28 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano >: On 06 Oct 2015, at 15:23, Nicolai H

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

> On 06 Oct 2015, at 15:53, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > 2015-10-06 15:28 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano >: > >> On 06 Oct 2015, at 15:23, Nicolai Hess > > wrote: >> >> >> >> 2015-10-06 13:46 GMT+02:00 Henrik Johansen >

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

2015-10-06 15:28 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano : > > On 06 Oct 2015, at 15:23, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > 2015-10-06 13:46 GMT+02:00 Henrik Johansen : > >> >> On 06 Oct 2015, at 1:33 , Nicolai Hess wrote: >> >> >> >> 2015-10-06 11:57 GMT+02:00 Werner Kassens : >> >>> On 10/06/2015 09:09 AM, Nicol

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

> On 06 Oct 2015, at 15:28, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > >> On 06 Oct 2015, at 15:23, Nicolai Hess > > wrote: >> >> >> >> 2015-10-06 13:46 GMT+02:00 Henrik Johansen > >: >> >>> On 06 Oct 2015, at 1:33 , Nicolai Hess >>

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

> On 06 Oct 2015, at 15:23, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > 2015-10-06 13:46 GMT+02:00 Henrik Johansen >: > >> On 06 Oct 2015, at 1:33 , Nicolai Hess > > wrote: >> >> >> >> 2015-10-06 11:57 GMT+02:00 Werner Kassens >

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

> On 06 Oct 2015, at 15:23, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > 2015-10-06 13:46 GMT+02:00 Henrik Johansen >: > >> On 06 Oct 2015, at 1:33 , Nicolai Hess > > wrote: >> >> >> >> 2015-10-06 11:57 GMT+02:00 Werner Kassens >

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

2015-10-06 13:46 GMT+02:00 Henrik Johansen : > > On 06 Oct 2015, at 1:33 , Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > 2015-10-06 11:57 GMT+02:00 Werner Kassens : > >> On 10/06/2015 09:09 AM, Nicolai Hess wrote: >> >>> > Since Object has almost 500 methods whatever I will start typing >>> Object/TClass/TBehavio

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

Part of the Phd of Romain Robbes was about comparing completion algorithms. And NOC/NEC are part of the results but it needs a real pass. Stef Hi Nicolai, imagine that code-completion is a game and the computer wins, if the user mostly uses the first few proposals. perhaps one could program

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

> On 06 Oct 2015, at 1:33 , Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > 2015-10-06 11:57 GMT+02:00 Werner Kassens >: > On 10/06/2015 09:09 AM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > Since Object has almost 500 methods whatever I will start typing > Object/TClass/TBehavior/... will have a list

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

2015-10-06 11:57 GMT+02:00 Werner Kassens : > On 10/06/2015 09:09 AM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > >> > Since Object has almost 500 methods whatever I will start typing >> Object/TClass/TBehavior/... will have a list of answers... >> >> I think this is difficult, even though this classes are big and you

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

2015-10-06 10:31 GMT+02:00 Yuriy Tymchuk : > > On 06 Oct 2015, at 09:09, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > Am 04.10.2015 23:53 schrieb "Peter Uhnák" : > > > > This is both rant and list of questions/notes/observations... > > > > ...but first of all: > > do Smalltalkers not like code completion? Because t

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

On 10/06/2015 09:09 AM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > Since Object has almost 500 methods whatever I will start typing Object/TClass/TBehavior/... will have a list of answers... I think this is difficult, even though this classes are big and you don't use most of the methods, Hi Nicolai, imagine tha

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

> On 06 Oct 2015, at 09:09, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > Am 04.10.2015 23:53 schrieb "Peter Uhnák" >: > > > > This is both rant and list of questions/notes/observations... > > > > ...but first of all: > > do Smalltalkers not like code completion? Because the one in Pharo

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

On 04-10-15 23:53, Peter Uhnák wrote: 3. Is middle-of-the word really that often used? See moseInterengEntity above. It feels to me that it just creates a lot of false positives (I have this problem also with inspector btw, so I often have to prefix it with >># or if I see it already lot of , whi

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

Am 04.10.2015 23:53 schrieb "Peter Uhnák" : > > This is both rant and list of questions/notes/observations... > > ...but first of all: > do Smalltalkers not like code completion? Because the one in Pharo is really poor and not only that nobody is doing anything about it, but also nobody is complain

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

> On 04 Oct 2015, at 23:53, Peter Uhnák wrote: > > This is both rant and list of questions/notes/observations... > > ...but first of all: > do Smalltalkers not like code completion? Because the one in Pharo is really > poor and not only that nobody is doing anything about it, but also nobody i

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

> On 05 Oct 2015, at 08:39, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > > On 04/10/15 23:53, Peter Uhnák wrote: >> This is both rant and list of questions/notes/observations... >> >> ...but first of all: >> do Smalltalkers not like code completion? Because the one in Pharo is >> really poor and not only that no

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

On 04/10/15 23:53, Peter Uhnák wrote: This is both rant and list of questions/notes/observations... ...but first of all: do Smalltalkers not like code completion? Because the one in Pharo is really poor and not only that nobody is doing anything about it, *but also nobody is complaining*; this l