Fosdem organization uploaded the videos on grafoscopio :).
Maybe it would be nice to spread it through our medias
https://video.fosdem.org/2020/AW1.126/open_research_pocket_infrastructures.mp4
https://video.fosdem.org/2020/AW1.126/open_research_pocket_infrastructures.webm
Santiago
> pharo is not smalltalk
> TedVanGaalen wrote
>> Pharo IS Smalltalk, whether you like it or not.
An ancient parable goes...
> A group of blind men heard that a strange animal, called an elephant, had
> been brought to the town, but none of them were aware of its shape and
> form. Out of
> You can evangelize what you want but I would prefer if you have to
evangelize, keep it to smalltalk and do not refer to pharo, not even with
screenshots.
Whoa! You want me to remove all references to Pharo in my
smalltalk.tech.blog???
That would eliminate most of the current blog posts. It
This is tiring.
I like reading those blog posts.
And Pharo is not exactly Smalltalk, so what? Syntax close enough,
principles close enough.
What is there to win in arguing about this point?
I have been not using Pharo for a while commercially, because, well, Pharo
is a hard sell to companies.
> The whole reason Pharo exists is to break free from the constraints of
other people's ideas of what Smalltalk is and should remain to be.
Pharo is no more constrained by Smalltalk's legacy than GNU Smalltalk (which
eschews the traditional IDE) and Hoot Smalltalk (a JVM-based Smalltalk with
> Am 06.02.2020 um 14:45 schrieb horrido :
>
> As I suggested earlier, my evangelism has been rather polarizing. There are a
> lot of people like yourself who don't appreciate my efforts. There a lot of
> people who do.
>
> For example, when I attended the FAST conference in Salta, many people
Dear Esteban,
To make a long thread short:
For users, your attitude/opinion implies the following facts:
-if adhering to Pharo, then all the things one creates become
increasingly incompatible with Smalltalk, because, in effect,
you state that Pharo abandons/deviates from Smalltalk as a
As I suggested earlier, my evangelism has been rather polarizing. There are a
lot of people like yourself who don't appreciate my efforts. There a lot of
people who do.
For example, when I attended the FAST conference in Salta, many people
(Leandro Caniglia, Carlos Ferro, etc.) expressed their
Dear all,
we are happy to announce the release of PolyMath 1.0.2, the
computational framework for Pharo. This release works on Pharo 7.0 and
Pharo 8.0. All the 815 tests and the CI are green on MacOs, Windows and
Linux :-)
Please find more information about the project here:
Great work Pablo !
Nice to see code examples of what you have done until now.
Best,
On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 3:26 AM Pablo Navarro wrote:
> Hi everyone
>
> I put available my code for Image Form in GitHub (
> https://github.com/pablo1n7/ImageForm). This afternoon, I did the
> operations with
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Really sorry for the tone of my last reply Norbert... But I've had my
share of "get the fuck out of this list" private emails tonight...
Truly sorry. :(
On 2020-02-06 06:33, Norbert Hartl wrote:
Am 06.02.2020 um 12:22 schrieb Benoit St-Jean :
I don't mind doing
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Really sorry for the tone of my last reply Norbert... But I've had my
share of "get the fuck out of this list" private emails tonight...
Truly sorry. :(
On 2020-02-06 06:33, Norbert Hartl wrote:
Am 06.02.2020 um 12:22 schrieb Benoit St-Jean :
I don't mind doing
> Am 06.02.2020 um 12:22 schrieb Benoit St-Jean :
>
>
> I don't mind doing 1, 2 and 3 but you'd probably complain that if I do 2 and
> 3, you'll find my interview "too smalltalkish" for your own taste... ;)
>
Please do! It is not important if it is to my taste or not. Why should it? If
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I don't mind doing 1, 2 and 3 but you'd probably complain that if I do 2
and 3, you'll find my interview "too smalltalkish" for your own
taste... ;) Unless you want to provide me with your official text that
I'll just read?
On 2020-02-06 06:12, Norbert Hartl wrote:
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Pablo,
Here's my quick list of ideas to generate gigantic images...
The easiest way to fill the image quickly is to load huge packages that
can also generate tons of data. The firsts that come to mind are Moose,
Roassal, Seaside, BioSmalltalk, PolyMath, Marea, Magma (not
Are the numbers the order in which you will do it?
Norbert
> Am 06.02.2020 um 11:37 schrieb Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-users
> :
>
>
> Von: Benoit St-Jean
> Betreff: Promoting Pharo
> Datum: 6. Februar 2020 um 11:37:00 MEZ
> An: Any question about pharo is welcome
>
>
> Some rough & simple
> Am 05.02.2020 um 20:41 schrieb horrido :
>
>> It is your initiative, you should know, nobody asked you to do it
>
> Well, that's a peculiar attitude. There are many, many programming language
> evangelists and I don't think anybody "asked" them to do it. They do it for
> the love of the
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Some rough & simple ideas...
1) Make Pharo visible on Rosetta.org
There is currently 1006 tasks (mini projects) implemented in 764
programming languages. Pharo is nowhere to be seen there, besides the
programming language entry on the wiki for Pharo still points to
Wow, very nice :)
Esteban
> On 6 Feb 2020, at 10:40, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
>
>
>
>> On 6 Feb 2020, at 07:10, Kasper Østerbye wrote:
>>
>> Cool!
>> I like that readme.
>
> +100 beautiful !
>
>> Best,
>>
>> Kasper
>>
>>
>> On 6 February 2020 at 03.26.05, Pablo Navarro
> On 6 Feb 2020, at 07:10, Kasper Østerbye wrote:
>
> Cool!
> I like that readme.
+100 beautiful !
> Best,
>
> Kasper
>
>
> On 6 February 2020 at 03.26.05, Pablo Navarro (pablo...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> I put available my code for Image Form in GitHub
>>
Benoît,
Stop this non-sense, please.
For somebody, intelligent, with decades experience in using some Smalltalk
implementation, who has been on this list for years, you have a very hard time
reading and understanding what is being said, and you know it.
The whole reason Pharo exists is to
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Then I have a question... and I'm not being sarcastic here!
As Pharo users, are we allowed to suggest ideas from other environments,
even other languages or projects?
If I think we should implement something similar to VisualWork's
MemoryPolicy in Pharo, where should I
Thanks for mentioning me.
I would just like to point out that I made FuzzyWorld in both Pharo and VSE,
but since all my applications were in VSE (which I have been using since
1985!) I have brought it to VSE for graphic content and tools I had already
developped.
As you can see in the first slide
> On 6 Feb 2020, at 08:11, Konrad Hinsen wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> it looks like get.pharo.org suffers from some confusion about its own
> files. Here's what happens when I try to download the stable VM for
> macOS:
>
> url https://get.pharo.org/64/vm80 | bash
> On 6 Feb 2020, at 09:31, Konrad Hinsen wrote:
>
> Norbert Hartl writes:
>
>>> which contains Pharo.app, not the VM to run from the command
>>> line.
>>>
>> This the same thing actually. For MacOS it is a bit cumbersome. You can
>> start the vm with
>>
>>
Norbert Hartl writes:
>> which contains Pharo.app, not the VM to run from the command
>> line.
>>
> This the same thing actually. For MacOS it is a bit cumbersome. You can start
> the vm with
>
> ./Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo
OK, so the distribution format has changed from Pharo 7? What I
So, I’m going to say this and then I will close this thread:
Regardless what you think about Pharo and its heritage and how it should be
called, this is a list to talk about this particular artefact that is Pharo.
You can say: There is Smalltalk, and there is Pharo who is a part of it.
That’s
> Am 06.02.2020 um 08:11 schrieb Konrad Hinsen :
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> it looks like get.pharo.org suffers from some confusion about its own
> files. Here's what happens when I try to download the stable VM for
> macOS:
>
> url https://get.pharo.org/64/vm80 | bash
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