Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo-users Digest, Vol 55, Issue 94

2017-11-12 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Joachim We are focused on deployment but not the same way. We are the first system that bootstrap a core and can load dependencies on this core. We have a dependency analyser that is really advanced since it can check that you have message that are not in extension of packages that you use. In Jan

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo-Chrome (was: Soup bug(fix))

2017-11-12 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Tx and one day we can turn it into another little booklet :) Stef On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Alistair Grant wrote: > Hi Stef, > > On 12 November 2017 at 14:47, Stephane Ducasse > wrote: >> exampleNavigation >> | chrome page logger | >> logger := InMem

Re: [Pharo-users] deployment of pharo applications

2017-11-12 Thread Stephane Ducasse
On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 6:58 PM, Викентий Потапов wrote: > Well, i've got very extensive feedback for i18n of applications, there are > few solutions i can use, despite there is no united way embedded into pharo > view on application design. That's ok, i can do something for my one taste (i > p

Re: [Pharo-users] deployment of pharo applications

2017-11-12 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Yes On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 4:39 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Stephane Ducasse-3 wrote >>> Another stumbling block is application deployment. I've heard about some >>> "Launcher" but ... what is it? what it does? where to get it? >> the launcher i

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo-users Digest, Vol 55, Issue 94

2017-11-12 Thread Stephane Ducasse
> > I may have chosen the wrong words, sorry for that. The OPs comments sounded > so much like "why don't you have it like VW does" that I couldn't resist ;-) Don't worry :) >> We have a dependency analyser that is really advanced since it can >> check that you have message that are not in exten

Re: [Pharo-users] RewriteTool maintained?

2017-11-12 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Probably. Mark decided not to do a PhD with us and the company with which he did his master. Now may be he is still following this list. May be we will rescue his tool. I do not know where it is saved. Stef On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Peter Uhnák wrote: > Hi, > > has Mark Rizun's Rewrite T

Re: [Pharo-users] Writing "powerpoint" like presentations in Pharo?

2017-11-12 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi stefan I'm interested. So if you want that I do code review and ask super dumb questions let me know. Stef On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:12 PM, stephan wrote: > On 10-11-17 12:06, H. Hirzel wrote: >> >> Is the code available somewhere? > > > I've been fighting somewhat with Iceberg, and using fa

Re: [Pharo-users] Stream API

2017-11-13 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi Evan I think that we will use the ZnStreams. If we use Xtreams we will transform their API because some messages are not really good. Stef On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 7:54 PM, Evan Donahue wrote: > I've heard mention once or twice on this list and in some release notes of > what sounded like poss

Re: [Pharo-users] FileReference>>#moveTo: across filesystems

2017-11-13 Thread Stephane Ducasse
This is great to see FileSystem improving. On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 7:11 PM, Alistair Grant wrote: > Hi Claudio, > > On 13 November 2017 at 18:49, Claudio Corrodi wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Manuel Leuenberger and I ran into an issue with the FileReference>>#moveTo: >> method last week. On my system,

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo-users Digest, Vol 55, Issue 102

2017-11-13 Thread Stephane Ducasse
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 2:55 AM, Викентий Потапов wrote: > > Thanks Stef, also thank all of you for your support. It is very important to > me and shows that Pharo is really in progress. > I didn't ever complained - i just asked simple questions on topics i don't > know. And i get lot's of answe

Re: [Pharo-users] Stream API

2017-11-13 Thread Stephane Ducasse
example, #nextInt32 on > PositionableStream ? Good luck with that when the the underlying collection > is anything other than bytes. > > All this being said, there is no one, single correct answer. > > But if we all try to simplify what we expect of streams (use a more limited

Re: [Pharo-users] About implementing a "Mini Pillar" in-image renderer for Pharo ...

2017-11-14 Thread Stephane Ducasse
e >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> On Nov 10, 2017, at 12:58 PM, H. Hirzel wrote: >> >> A note: >> >> Tudor Girba wrote: >>Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 1:31 PM >> Reply-To: Any question about pharo is welcome >> >> T

Re: [Pharo-users] Stream API

2017-11-14 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Denis I agree. I do not like to code in reverse order. On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > 2017-11-14 16:30 GMT+01:00 Steffen Märcker : >> >> I forgot to mention, that the most recent code for Pharo is already on >> Github: https://github.com/Pharophile/Transducers >> >> R

Re: [Pharo-users] Stream API

2017-11-14 Thread Stephane Ducasse
at 5:59 PM, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > Denis I agree. I do not like to code in reverse order. > > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Denis Kudriashov > wrote: >> 2017-11-14 16:30 GMT+01:00 Steffen Märcker : >>> >>> I forgot to mention, that the most rece

[Pharo-users] PhD in IoT and Pharo

2017-11-14 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi we have a PhD position in France around IoT and Pharo. Description Over the last years, the RMOD team of INRIA Lille and the CAR theme of IMT Lille Douai have been working together on creating tiny language core. For example, Guillermo Polito demonstrated in his PhD a fully reflective kernel

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo-Chrome (was: Soup bug(fix))

2017-11-16 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi mariano pay attention to really use the version of guillermo because he was fixing some bugs. Stef On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 3:15 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > If this is a problem with OSSubprocess I am happy to help it debug it, but > please share with me the exact steps to reproduce it

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo-Chrome (was: Soup bug(fix))

2017-11-17 Thread Stephane Ducasse
> > Well, in general the idea is to use the "upstream" project and not personal > forks. As far as I am aware of, I have merged all PR from Guille into > `master`. Ok so this is good > So unless he has recent commits that were not yet made available via a PR, > then my upstream project should be

Re: [Pharo-users] Anybody in this group in Bangalore or India

2017-11-17 Thread Stephane Ducasse
OKI On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Sanjay Minni wrote: > Thanks, > > I will reach out, > Will request for a post in the blog when I have got something up > > Sanjay > > > Stephane Ducasse-3 wrote >> Thanks for the information. Let us know how to help you. >

Re: [Pharo-users] Deploying using the minimal image of Pharo

2017-11-22 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi gabriel We added support for baseline on github in Pharo 70. It would be interesting to see if you get better smoother results with Pharo70. Stef On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 1:37 AM, gabriel sor wrote: > Hi, > In in the past days, in the context of the Smalltalks 2017 conference, I > talked

Re: [Pharo-users] Travis build failing because of bad CRC

2017-11-22 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Marcus told me that he wants to address this problem because this is super annoying. Stef On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Julien wrote: > So the fix is just to relaunch the build? :-) > > Julien > >> Le 19 nov. 2017 à 19:56, Cyril Ferlicot D. a >> écrit : >> >> Le 19/11/2017 à 19:54, Julien a

[Pharo-users] I love the launcher!!!!

2017-11-23 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi I love the PharoLauncher. It helps me to manage my parallel development and projects. We should put a link on the Pharo web site because http://files.pharo.org/platform/launcher/ is arcane. Stef

Re: [Pharo-users] Short report about Pharo experience

2017-11-23 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi hans Thank you for this analysis. Now do you want me to state a question? Stef On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:23 AM, Hans N Beck wrote: > Hi, > > Shiny for the R language is a very useful technique to create responsive > applications based on Web technologies - with all the advantage the big >

[Pharo-users] [PHARO 7.0A] NEXT ENHANCEMENTS

2017-11-23 Thread Stephane Ducasse
eport period: 5 November 2017 to 23 November 2017 * 20739-Remove-dead-stream-primitives >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20739/Remove-dead-stream-primitives Issue URL: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20739 PR URL: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/524 Diff

Re: [Pharo-users] Short report about Pharo experience

2017-11-23 Thread Stephane Ducasse
onstraints. >> >> Pharo is well in being the superior new concept. We know that. All what I >> want give you, the Pharo experts the feedback that I’m very happy them that >> Pharo is on the way for having value for the other perspective, a tool for >> solving problems in

Re: [Pharo-users] Short report about Pharo experience

2017-11-23 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi hans No need to overreact. WE VALUE FEEDBACK. Now if people would understand that yes they can do a simple commit to recategorise a method. Then we could also focus on more important things. NOW FEEDBACK is great. Then what? Stef On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 11:53 AM, Hans wrote: > Hi Stef, > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Short report about Pharo experience

2017-11-23 Thread Stephane Ducasse
You see I documented for example how to use travis and bintray. Super boring to turn a log into a pillar doc. And this way other people can use this doc. Do you know the Soup of Stones (check on wikipedia) ? Stef On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 11:40 PM, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > Hi hans > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Travis build failing because of bad CRC

2017-11-23 Thread Stephane Ducasse
This is super strange because I have a quite bad internet connection at home but I never have such problem just super slow donwload but this is my connection. Stef On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > Christophe, > >> Am 23.11.2017 um 09:33 schrieb Christophe Demarey >> : >>

Re: [Pharo-users] Travis build failing because of bad CRC

2017-11-23 Thread Stephane Ducasse
I like your analysis and I share your frustration. And this is a so bad press for inria. Stef On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > > Am 23.11.2017 um 13:18 schrieb Christophe Demarey > : > > > Le 23 nov. 2017 à 12:34, Norbert Hartl a écrit : > > > > Am 23.11.2017 um 11:39 s

Re: [Pharo-users] I love the launcher!!!!

2017-11-23 Thread Stephane Ducasse
efficient and I like that. Stef On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Herby Vojčík wrote: > Stephane Ducasse wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> I love the PharoLauncher. > > > Pardon my question, I have downloaded it and looked at it, but I don't get > it. What

Re: [Pharo-users] Why does the test runner show red when I correct a test?

2017-11-23 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi andrew I like your idea. It is fun and at least we can spot test. Now sometimes we will have to have self assert: true because running a code can be also considered as a test. Now what I do not like is empty test method because there are green. stef On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Prof. And

Re: [Pharo-users] Why does the test runner show red when I correct a test?

2017-11-23 Thread Stephane Ducasse
BTW I like grey for a method that was edited in the debugger. Because red is not good. The proof is that when I rerun my test is green. While saying I do not know you have to rerun is a good solution. I like it. I got always frustrated with the red. On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 12:05 AM, Stephane

Re: [Pharo-users] Travis build failing because of bad CRC

2017-11-24 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Thanks christophe and marcus. This is good that we get rid of this stupid situation. Stef On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Christophe Demarey wrote: > >> Le 24 nov. 2017 à 11:53, Christophe Demarey a >> écrit : >> >> Hi, >> >> The new server is now available to the world: http://file-pharo.in

Re: [Pharo-users] I love the launcher!!!!

2017-11-24 Thread Stephane Ducasse
o PharoLauncher is a nice tool where you can download fresh image just >> by clicking, and you see the list of your local images and can launch >> them, etc. >> >> Peter >> >> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Herby Vojčík > <mailto:he...@mailbox.sk>> wrote:

Re: [Pharo-users] Business process (declaration and orchestration), ontology/taxonomy,

2017-11-25 Thread Stephane Ducasse
I will take some time before I can try but I wants to have super simple shape with lines between them. Stef On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Serge Stinckwich < serge.stinckw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Cédrick Béler wrote: > >> Hi again, this is my last question

Re: [Pharo-users] Timespan translateToUTC problematic

2017-11-25 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Thanks you all for this discussion. Last time I used Date and friends I got really frustrated. The navigation between the concept was not really good. I needed for example to manipulate a month in a year: February 2017 (I should check what I did). If I would have time and money I would - create a m

Re: [Pharo-users] How do you store and manage small programs?

2017-11-26 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi Andy As you saw there are plenty of solutions. Now what I learned is that it is often better in the long to have a little object because suddenly it opens your mind and you realise that you can teach him something more. So I often find myself realising that I created some class methods and th

Re: [Pharo-users] I love the launcher!!!!

2017-11-26 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Then do not try :) like that you will never get a chance to know :) Stef On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Herby Vojčík wrote: > Stephane Ducasse wrote: >> >> Why don't you try? It does not bite. >> >> For me it works in all scenario. I have projects that i

Re: [Pharo-users] P3 timeout

2017-11-26 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi Pierce It would be cool if we could get a little success stories around what you are doing. A success stories does not mean that you get as rich as Steve Jobs, just that you build something nice successfully. ;) Stef On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 9:43 AM, Pierce Ng wrote: > Hi Sven and all, > > I h

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo-users Digest, Vol 55, Issue 206

2017-11-26 Thread Stephane Ducasse
+ 1 On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Ben Coman wrote: > > > On 25 November 2017 at 15:18, Викентий Потапов > wrote: >> >> >> I downloaded the latest PharoLauncher image, use VM for Pharo 6.1. >> 1) On load i got an error with UTF8 encoding. >> 2) Every time i tried to create image (for example

Re: [Pharo-users] I love the launcher!!!!

2017-11-26 Thread Stephane Ducasse
If you don't try you will not understand what you miss. On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Herby Vojčík wrote: > Stephane Ducasse wrote: >> >> Then do not try :) like that you will never get a chance to know :) > > > Could you please explain? I understood your sen

Re: [Pharo-users] Removing instance variables doesn't recompile the methods

2017-11-26 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi abdel I created a class with x and two accessors and I created the same test than you. They were green. Then I removed the instance variable x and I run the tests and they were grennn (agr) I checked the accessors and the methods where showing that the instance variable

Re: [Pharo-users] Removing instance variables doesn't recompile the methods

2017-11-26 Thread Stephane Ducasse
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20765/removing-an-instance-variable-does-not-really-remove-it On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 9:50 PM, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > Hi abdel > > I created a class with x and two accessors and I created the same test > than you. They were green. > The

[Pharo-users] How to write a little REPL

2017-11-26 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi I'm working on a mini scheme implementation and I would like to add a REPL and I wonder how I can super easily get a read line. Stef

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo-Chrome (was: Soup bug(fix))

2017-11-26 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi Alistair If you want help I can add a baseline that automtically load DataFrame. Because users should not load by themselves external project. Stef On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Alistair Grant wrote >> https://github.com/PolyMathOrg/DataFrame > > Cool, thanks! I

Re: [Pharo-users] How do you store and manage small programs?

2017-11-27 Thread Stephane Ducasse
never noticed that extension - that’s amazing. >> >> On 27 Nov 2017, at 10:56, p...@highoctane.be wrote: >> >> QuickAccess is also a great option. >> >> https://pharoweekly.wordpress.com/2015/11/06/quickaccess/ >> >> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 11:16

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo-Chrome (was: Soup bug(fix))

2017-11-27 Thread Stephane Ducasse
it. I was a naive design decision. Stef On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Alistair Grant wrote: > Hi Stef, > > On 26 November 2017 at 22:39, Stephane Ducasse > wrote: >> Hi Alistair >> >> If you want help I can add a baseline that automtically load DataFrame. &g

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo-Chrome (was: Soup bug(fix))

2017-11-27 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi stephan not really this is more "not thinking in terms of large dependencies" :) Stef On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 12:26 PM, stephan wrote: > On 27-11-17 11:02, Alistair Grant wrote: >> >> As >> we've seen from Pillar and Magritte, the more dependencies the greater >> the maintenance costs and p

Re: [Pharo-users] How to write a little REPL

2017-11-27 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Sorry I wanted to have it in pharo :) On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 3:56 AM, Holger Freyther wrote: > >> On 27. Nov 2017, at 05:38, Stephane Ducasse wrote: >> >> Hi > > Hey! > > >> I'm working on a mini scheme implementation and I would like to add a REP

Re: [Pharo-users] I love the launcher!!!!

2017-11-28 Thread Stephane Ducasse
521). > Press CR to quit... > > How is one using the launcher for 64 bit stuff? > > Phil > > On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Stephane Ducasse > wrote: >> >> If you don't try you will not understand what you miss. >> >> On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 2:

Re: [Pharo-users] files.pharo.org downloads => needs testers

2017-11-29 Thread Stephane Ducasse
This is a really excellent news! On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Christophe Demarey wrote: > Thanks Ben and John for the first feedbacks. > I also run a test on Travis CI: > https://travis-ci.org/demarey/test-files-pharo-org/builds/308846128?utm_source=github_status&utm_medium=notification > Av

Re: [Pharo-users] files.pharo.org downloads => needs testers

2017-11-29 Thread Stephane Ducasse
ime Current Dload Upload Total SpentLeft Speed 100 17.7M 100 17.7M0 0 336k 0 0:00:53 0:00:53 --:--:-- 403k On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 8:58 PM, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > This is a really excellent news! > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] How to write a little REPL

2017-11-29 Thread Stephane Ducasse
On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Alistair Grant wrote: > On 28 November 2017 at 08:18, Stephane Ducasse > wrote: >> Sorry I wanted to have it in pharo :) > > Are you talking about having a terminal inside Pharo? Yes I'm having fun with a small scheme interpreter and I

[Pharo-users] How to remove method body?

2017-12-03 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi to prepare some code for students I want to convert methods into a kind of method skeleton ie printOn: aStream "super nice comment" lk;lk; kl;;kl k;lkl;k ^ 42 into printOn: aStream "super nice comment" ^ self any idea? In the past I know that we could access the met

Re: [Pharo-users] How to remove method body?

2017-12-03 Thread Stephane Ducasse
just after your modifications, from the compiled method try: > > ObjSkeletonMock compile: self ast newSource > > Maybe not the most elegant but it works. > > > > Steven. > > Le 2017-12-03 22:31, Stephane Ducasse a écrit : > > Hi > > to prepare some code for students

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-12-04 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi We have a full mooc with 90 videos, we have books. And we are super busy. You see we cannot do everything. Stef On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 5:15 AM, horrido wrote: > Speaking of which, one of my readers said he tried out Pharo recently and > found the documentation wanting. He was expecting a Ge

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-12-04 Thread Stephane Ducasse
? > > A newbie looking at this installation page and trying to get started with > Pharo under Linux would be totally confused and frustrated. Hell, *I'm > totally confused and frustrated!* As you see this can be fixed without losing more time on that. > > > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Plotting a SMark report

2017-12-04 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Some difference are striking :) On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 5:09 AM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote: > Hi guys, > > I benchmarked five Levenshtein implementations today and just wonder > is there any package or extension which takes a SMark report and plot > a Roassal bar chart? > > This is the best I g

Re: [Pharo-users] P3 timeout

2017-12-04 Thread Stephane Ducasse
If you need help for your booklet setup let me know. Stef On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 1:02 AM, Pierce Ng wrote: > On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 02:03:13PM +0100, Stephane Ducasse wrote: >> It would be cool if we could get a little success stories around what >> you are doing. >> A suc

Re: [Pharo-users] Problem loading image after changing resolution from 4Kto HD

2017-12-04 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi We are chasing a bug in FreeType. Some initialization order was wrong in 70alpha but it the fix does not apply to 61 :( and I finished to remove the plugin from my VM and use strike fonts. We should rewrite the FT plugin. STef On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Prof. Andrew P. Black wrote: > >

Re: [Pharo-users] reloading ffi library

2017-12-07 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Thanks Ben. I have a question. Would it make sense to have a setting to reset on each session the registry? What you should know is that Guille is actively improving (refactoring, rethinking the API of iceberg) to produce a better UI then. We are really concerned how we can get the same confort th

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-12-07 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Thanks Richard. I like when you are doing :) On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 8:38 PM, horrido wrote: > I've completed the first draft of my Pharo Quick Start guide > . I decided > to forge ahead anyway. > > Feedback welcome. > > Note that I

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-12-07 Thread Stephane Ducasse
I read it and it is good and to the point. I was thinking if we could have a class named something else than Hello May be Repeater new say: 'Hello' ? Stef On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 8:43 PM, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > Thanks Richard. I like when you are doing :) > > On Thu, Dec

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-12-07 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Once the pharo quick start guide is ready we will add it to the documentation. On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 8:45 PM, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > I read it and it is good and to the point. > I was thinking if we could have a class named something else than Hello > May be Repeater new sa

Re: [Pharo-users] Fwd: Installing pharo6.1-64

2017-12-07 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Thanks for the feedback and we should add a readme! On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 2:08 AM, Ben Coman wrote: > [fwd to list] > Thanks for having a go at fixing your font. Unfortunately it didn't > work (or maybe something wrong at my end) > I'll follow up with you off-list. > > cheer -ben > > --

Re: [Pharo-users] Commander feedback

2017-12-07 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Thanks a lot Juraj. This is great to have a client :) and we will work on the new version of the documentation. Stef On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:05 PM, Juraj Kubelka wrote: > Hi, > > I like the idea of the Commander library > https://github.com/dionisiydk/Commander > I am trying to understand how t

[Pharo-users] Report period: 24 November 2017 to 8 December 2017

2017-12-08 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Report period: 24 November 2017 to 8 December 2017 * 20734-Nested-Structures-using-Platform-longs-fails >> Adding implementation of platform dependent longs in FFIExternalStructureReferenceHandle. >> >> Fixes https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20734/Nested-Structures-using-Platform

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-12-08 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi Richard Thanks this is nice. I like Greeter :) The suggestion of Ben are fun for the next one. I will add a link to your article. Stef On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 11:35 PM, horrido wrote: > Done. Class #Hello is now #Greeter in package "HelloDemo". > > I presume we're good to go, then? > > > > Of

Re: [Pharo-users] HTTP request question for an arango driver

2017-12-08 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Yann I do not think that connecting a database via a HTTP client can be as fast as with a FFI or other means. This is mainly why database like Gemstone are superior for accessing a lot of data. Stef On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 4:32 PM, Yann Lesage wrote: > Hello, > > > I write an driver for Arangodb .

Re: [Pharo-users] HTTP request question for an arango driver

2017-12-08 Thread Stephane Ducasse
r of connections to be made. Finalky I could imagine that >> pooling the most heavy objects in zinc can remove stress from the garbage >> collector. > > I am agree with this. I cache the ZnClient, without that, I don't have more > than 400 or 500 request/s. And the keep-alive i

Re: [Pharo-users] REST client hints

2017-12-09 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Tx for your report :) https://wordpress.com/post/pharoweekly.wordpress.com/2347 Did you look at SmartShackles? on our inria github repo. Because Santiago is extracting information from blockchains. On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 4:45 AM, Ben Coman wrote: > > On 5 December 2017 at 20:44, Sven Van Caeke

Re: [Pharo-users] FYI about Pharo MOOC

2017-12-10 Thread Stephane Ducasse
round I can still hear your >> original french voice. >> I'm curious the reasoning for this. >> >> cheers -ben >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 3:59 AM, Stephane Ducasse >> wrote: >>> >>> I'm about to release the en versio

Re: [Pharo-users] Package Discoverability

2017-12-11 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi I hope that one of these days we will release the package manager for Pharo. Now in the mid time I encourage you to publish to the Catalog. Stef On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 12:04 AM, Evan Donahue wrote: > Hello, > > I was wondering what the current story was for releasing packages so that > the

Re: [Pharo-users] Why do downloads not use HTTPS by default?

2017-12-11 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Thanks marcus. Should I update all the pages of the lectures and other to use https? Stef On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > The link there is now fixed. > > > On 11 Dec 2017, at 09:14, Marcus Denker wrote: > > It is on my TODO to change all the links… sorry for not having

Re: [Pharo-users] OSEnvironment issue

2017-12-11 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi eno On sierra I removed the Freetype plugin because it was crashing too many times (apparently in Pharo 70 this was fixed) then now I have crash when typing. :( Stef On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 6:08 AM, Eno wrote: > yes, you are right, it's caused by wrong VM, since by default, my images are > o

Re: [Pharo-users] Why do downloads not use HTTPS by default?

2017-12-12 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Ok I will try to get some time to do it. On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > > On 12 Dec 2017, at 00:18, Cyril Ferlicot wrote: > > > On mar. 12 déc. 2017 at 00:12, Stephane Ducasse > wrote: >> >> Thanks marcus. >> Should I update

Re: [Pharo-users] P3 timeout

2017-12-12 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Ok this looks like a good plan :) On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 2:48 PM, Pierce Ng wrote: > On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 07:54:00AM +0100, Stephane Ducasse wrote: >> If you need help for your booklet setup let me know. > > Thanks. I'm already set up with Pillar and all that. I&#x

Re: [Pharo-users] REST client hints

2017-12-13 Thread Stephane Ducasse
https://github.com/RMODINRIA-Blockchain Inria = 200 teams 4000 researchers :) On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 9:12 AM, Ben Coman wrote: > > > On 10 December 2017 at 15:27, Stephane Ducasse > wrote: >> >> Tx for your report :) >> >> https://wordpress.com/post/phar

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo intro talk in spanish

2017-12-13 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Thanks a lot. I'm starting to learn spanish (you talk too fast but this is fun to hear). Stef On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 1:02 AM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote: > Thanks Rafael! > > Is good to see more content in native languages and support more > diversity and going away of English as the d

Re: [Pharo-users] Iceberg: Code directory missing

2017-12-13 Thread Stephane Ducasse
I have a lot of "Clarification" wishe list ofr iceberg :) You cannot imagine it. :) On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 10:00 PM, Evan Donahue wrote: > Got it. I didn't realize the code subdirectory wasn't automatically created > by Iceberg if it didn't exist. I deleted the subdirectory name in the repo > co

Re: [Pharo-users] Iceberg is cool!

2017-12-15 Thread Stephane Ducasse
I need less features and more user friendly UI :) On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > I just got back from vacation and prepared a new image to work on the current > project. Well, I upgraded iceberg to 0.6.5 and everything works like > expected. I can see nicely what my co

Re: [Pharo-users] Working directory

2017-12-16 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi ben We should think about it. Indeed. Now about the names. I'm wondering if they cover well enough the situation. In fact I would like to have imageDirectory (it exists but not in FileSystem) and workingDirectory (I would prefer startupDirectory or something like that). For me workingDirectory

Re: [Pharo-users] FLSerialization>>analysisStep too slow?

2017-12-16 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi eno can you tell us what is TkIDE? Because most of us are hobbysts the truth is in the eye of the beholder :) Stef On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 3:47 PM, Eno wrote: > > My package TkIDE relied on > object database, sandstone, to store the objects.

Re: [Pharo-users] FLSerialization>>analysisStep too slow?

2017-12-16 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Do you want that I help you defining a configuration for your project? Stef On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > Hi eno > > can you tell us what is TkIDE? > Because most of us are hobbysts the truth is in the eye of the beholder > :) > > Stef >

Re: [Pharo-users] Working directory

2017-12-16 Thread Stephane Ducasse
On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 12:01 PM, Ben Coman wrote: > > > On 16 December 2017 at 16:02, Stephane Ducasse > wrote: >> >> Hi ben >> >> We should think about it. Indeed. >> Now about the names. I'm wondering if they cover well enough the >> situ

Re: [Pharo-users] Working directory

2017-12-16 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Now introducing a new name means that all the documentation, books, videos are obsolete. And this is a cost too. On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Alistair Grant wrote: > Hi Ben, > > On 15 December 2017 at 22:14, Ben Coman wrote: >> >> >> On 16 December 2017 at 04:34, Cyril Ferlicot D. >> wrote

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Launcher name

2017-12-17 Thread Stephane Ducasse
I agree with you and we should rename it PharoLauncher. Stef On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 12:32 AM, Glenn Hoetker wrote: > I love the Pharo Launcher. But, I find it confusing to have an application > called “Pharo.app”. Nothing in that name suggests it is a launcher. It is > also very confusing to

Re: [Pharo-users] FLSerialization>>analysisStep too slow?

2017-12-17 Thread Stephane Ducasse
On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 6:47 AM, Eno wrote: > Well, it is just my intent to place related playgrounds, doc, help, and > classes/methods, mophic, tool browser etc into domain object dbs of > topics/playgrounds trees while exploring the image and studing/writing > packages. can you explain how it i

Re: [Pharo-users] FLSerialization>>analysisStep too slow?

2017-12-17 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Did you read the chapter on Metacello in deep into Pharo? in essence you create a class where you express dependencies to other projects and packages. Have a look at the configuration of Soup for example Object subclass: #ConfigurationOfSoup instanceVariableNames: 'project' classVariableName

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] OpenSSL-Pharo works on Windows

2017-12-20 Thread Stephane Ducasse
great news. And this is super great that you plan to work on different platforms! THANKS On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Pierce Ng wrote: > Hi all, > > OpenSSL-Pharo now works on Windows. Tested on Windows 10 with a fresh 32-bit > Pharo 6.1 zip package downloaded from pharo.org. On Windows this

Re: [Pharo-users] Athens error

2017-12-20 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hilaire debug drawing error should give you access to the debugger and after you can get the stack. On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 9:35 PM, Hilaire wrote: > Sadly building the image with a light cleaning, does not grant me access to > the morph menu of the faulty canvas. Still same error as mentionned

Re: [Pharo-users] Athens error

2017-12-20 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Normally the call does not need the sources (if I'm correct in the past it needed to generate the correct method argument or something like that). Can you provide more information? or the image somewhere? Because FFI should improve and we are looking for edge corner bugs. Stef On Wed, Dec 20, 20

Re: [Pharo-users] Iceberg, Git and Package version

2017-12-20 Thread Stephane Ducasse
In iceberg you can specify - latest version when you do not specify anything - a version (but it should be a git tag so you should save you code with a tag - iceberg does not support it right now but you can do it with git) - the hash of your git commit. Does it answer your question? Stef On Wed

Re: [Pharo-users] Active IRC Chanel

2017-12-21 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi ian Welcome. Join the dicord channel http://discord.gg/Sj2rhxn Stef On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 4:34 AM, Ian Ian wrote: > Hi All, > > Is there an active IRC Chanel? Read somewhere (can't remember) that there > is one labeled #pharo. Is this true if so may I ask on which server it > resides?

Re: [Pharo-users] Hi, do I nowadays need any Id and psw, to log in smalltalk hub and others?

2017-12-21 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi To publish code you need to have an account on SmalltalkHub. Else to access code you do not need. Stef On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Janko Korelc wrote: > ... as connection time out... > > Best Regards! > > Janko Korelc

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Consortium New Bronze Member: Object Profile

2017-12-21 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Tx ObjectProfile On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > The Pharo Consortium is very happy to announce that Object Profile > has joined the Consortium as a Bronze Member. > > About > - Object Profile: http://objectprofile.com > - Pharo Consortium: http://consortium.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] And Mac too Re: [ANN] OpenSSL-Pharo works on Windows

2017-12-21 Thread Stephane Ducasse
We appreciate it! On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 3:38 AM, Pierce Ng wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 08:57:59PM +0100, Stephane Ducasse wrote: >> great news. >> And this is super great that you plan to work on different platforms! >> THANKS > > This is my little way of g

Re: [Pharo-users] How to connect to DB2

2017-12-21 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi andrei First welcome to this list. Second can you explain to us what is the experience that you did so that you can state that ODBC is broken in Pharo 6.1? Stef On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 11:48 PM, Andrei Stebakov wrote: > Looks like ODBC is broken in Pharo 6.1. > What's the best way to get acc

Re: [Pharo-users] How to connect to DB2

2017-12-22 Thread Stephane Ducasse
in RBParser>>externalFunctionDeclaration. Looks like currentScope > variable is not defined. > Also if I install ODBC from the catalog it also fails. > > Andrei > > > On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 2:19 AM, Stephane Ducasse > wrote: >> >> Hi andrei >> >&g

Re: [Pharo-users] Iceberg, Git and Package version

2017-12-22 Thread Stephane Ducasse
>From a baseline you can refer to a none github configuration here is an example from the pillar newpipeline dev branch it shows you both: dependencies on github projects and smalltalkhub baseline: spec spec for: #common do: [ spec blessing: #baseline. spec repository: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/

Re: [Pharo-users] Fuel transfer from Pharo 1.4 to Pharo 6.1

2017-12-22 Thread Stephane Ducasse
I would use STON because this is a solid solution. Stef On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 1:20 PM, Andreas Brodbeck wrote: > Am 28.11.17 um 11:13 schrieb H. Hirzel: >> Hello Andreas >> >> Unfortunately Fuel is not meant for this kind of use case of migrating >> an object model. > > That's sad to hear. Fro

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