[Pharo-users] About Ztimestamp

2017-10-22 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi sven I'm confused ft := ZTimestampFormat fromString: '02/11/2017'. ft format: DateAndTime now produces 10/11/1017060986 While I do not want time but just the date. and the date is wrong. So I will do it manually but I found sad that ZTimestampFormat cannot handle just handling days. I

[Pharo-users] [Pharo 70] Integration log

2017-10-22 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Report period: 15 October 2017 to 22 October 2017 * 20562-BaselineOfMorphic-should-include-System-Localization https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20562/BaselineOfMorphic-should-include-System-Localization https://api.github.com/repos/pharo-project/pharo/pulls/382

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo-Chrome (was: Soup bug(fix))

2017-11-27 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi stephan not really this is more "not thinking in terms of large dependencies" :) Stef On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 12:26 PM, stephan wrote: > On 27-11-17 11:02, Alistair Grant wrote: >> >> As >> we've seen from Pillar and Magritte, the more dependencies the greater >> the

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo-Chrome (was: Soup bug(fix))

2017-11-27 Thread Stephane Ducasse
it. I was a naive design decision. Stef On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Alistair Grant <akgrant0...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Stef, > > On 26 November 2017 at 22:39, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.s...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> Hi Alistair >> >> If you want h

Re: [Pharo-users] I love the launcher!!!!

2017-11-28 Thread Stephane Ducasse
68021) cannot read image file (vers. 6521). > Press CR to quit... > > How is one using the launcher for 64 bit stuff? > > Phil > > On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.s...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> If you don't try you will not unders

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo-users Digest, Vol 55, Issue 206

2017-11-26 Thread Stephane Ducasse
+ 1 On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Ben Coman wrote: > > > On 25 November 2017 at 15:18, Викентий Потапов > wrote: >> >> >> I downloaded the latest PharoLauncher image, use VM for Pharo 6.1. >> 1) On load i got an error with UTF8 encoding. >>

Re: [Pharo-users] How do you store and manage small programs?

2017-11-26 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi Andy As you saw there are plenty of solutions. Now what I learned is that it is often better in the long to have a little object because suddenly it opens your mind and you realise that you can teach him something more. So I often find myself realising that I created some class methods and

Re: [Pharo-users] P3 timeout

2017-11-26 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi Pierce It would be cool if we could get a little success stories around what you are doing. A success stories does not mean that you get as rich as Steve Jobs, just that you build something nice successfully. ;) Stef On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 9:43 AM, Pierce Ng wrote: >

Re: [Pharo-users] Removing instance variables doesn't recompile the methods

2017-11-26 Thread Stephane Ducasse
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20765/removing-an-instance-variable-does-not-really-remove-it On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 9:50 PM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.s...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi abdel > > I created a class with x and two accessors and I created the same test > than yo

Re: [Pharo-users] I love the launcher!!!!

2017-11-26 Thread Stephane Ducasse
If you don't try you will not understand what you miss. On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Herby Vojčík <he...@mailbox.sk> wrote: > Stephane Ducasse wrote: >> >> Then do not try :) like that you will never get a chance to know :) > > > Could you please explain? I und

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo-Chrome (was: Soup bug(fix))

2017-11-26 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi Alistair If you want help I can add a baseline that automtically load DataFrame. Because users should not load by themselves external project. Stef On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Alistair Grant wrote >>

Re: [Pharo-users] Removing instance variables doesn't recompile the methods

2017-11-26 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi abdel I created a class with x and two accessors and I created the same test than you. They were green. Then I removed the instance variable x and I run the tests and they were grennn (agr) I checked the accessors and the methods where showing that the instance

[Pharo-users] How to write a little REPL

2017-11-26 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi I'm working on a mini scheme implementation and I would like to add a REPL and I wonder how I can super easily get a read line. Stef

Re: [Pharo-users] Short report about Pharo experience

2017-11-23 Thread Stephane Ducasse
ironment, my colleagues, my >> customers, my IT infrastructure, my constraints. >> >> Pharo is well in being the superior new concept. We know that. All what I >> want give you, the Pharo experts the feedback that I’m very happy them that >> Pharo is on the way for having val

[Pharo-users] [PHARO 7.0A] NEXT ENHANCEMENTS

2017-11-23 Thread Stephane Ducasse
eport period: 5 November 2017 to 23 November 2017 * 20739-Remove-dead-stream-primitives >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20739/Remove-dead-stream-primitives Issue URL: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20739 PR URL: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/524 Diff

Re: [Pharo-users] Short report about Pharo experience

2017-11-23 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi hans Thank you for this analysis. Now do you want me to state a question? Stef On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:23 AM, Hans N Beck wrote: > Hi, > > Shiny for the R language is a very useful technique to create responsive > applications based on Web technologies -

[Pharo-users] I love the launcher!!!!

2017-11-23 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi I love the PharoLauncher. It helps me to manage my parallel development and projects. We should put a link on the Pharo web site because http://files.pharo.org/platform/launcher/ is arcane. Stef

Re: [Pharo-users] I love the launcher!!!!

2017-11-26 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Then do not try :) like that you will never get a chance to know :) Stef On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Herby Vojčík <he...@mailbox.sk> wrote: > Stephane Ducasse wrote: >> >> Why don't you try? It does not bite. >> >> For me it works in all scenario. I

Re: [Pharo-users] How do you store and manage small programs?

2017-11-27 Thread Stephane Ducasse
t; >> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Alistair Grant <akgrant0...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> On 26 November 2017 at 13:07, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.s...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > Hi Andy >>> > >>> > As you sa

Re: [Pharo-users] How to write a little REPL

2017-11-27 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Sorry I wanted to have it in pharo :) On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 3:56 AM, Holger Freyther <hol...@freyther.de> wrote: > >> On 27. Nov 2017, at 05:38, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.s...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi > > Hey! > > >> I'm working on a mini s

Re: [Pharo-users] Travis build failing because of bad CRC

2017-11-24 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Thanks christophe and marcus. This is good that we get rid of this stupid situation. Stef On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Christophe Demarey wrote: > >> Le 24 nov. 2017 à 11:53, Christophe Demarey a >> écrit : >> >> Hi, >> >> The new

Re: [Pharo-users] I love the launcher!!!!

2017-11-24 Thread Stephane Ducasse
>> So PharoLauncher is a nice tool where you can download fresh image just >> by clicking, and you see the list of your local images and can launch >> them, etc. >> >> Peter >> >> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Herby Vojčík <he...@mailbox.sk >> &l

Re: [Pharo-users] Business process (declaration and orchestration), ontology/taxonomy,

2017-11-25 Thread Stephane Ducasse
I will take some time before I can try but I wants to have super simple shape with lines between them. Stef On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Serge Stinckwich < serge.stinckw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Cédrick Béler wrote: > >> Hi again,

Re: [Pharo-users] Timespan translateToUTC problematic

2017-11-25 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Thanks you all for this discussion. Last time I used Date and friends I got really frustrated. The navigation between the concept was not really good. I needed for example to manipulate a month in a year: February 2017 (I should check what I did). If I would have time and money I would - create a

Re: [Pharo-users] Short report about Pharo experience

2017-11-23 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi hans No need to overreact. WE VALUE FEEDBACK. Now if people would understand that yes they can do a simple commit to recategorise a method. Then we could also focus on more important things. NOW FEEDBACK is great. Then what? Stef On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 11:53 AM, Hans

Re: [Pharo-users] Short report about Pharo experience

2017-11-23 Thread Stephane Ducasse
You see I documented for example how to use travis and bintray. Super boring to turn a log into a pillar doc. And this way other people can use this doc. Do you know the Soup of Stones (check on wikipedia) ? Stef On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 11:40 PM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.s...@gmail.

Re: [Pharo-users] Deploying using the minimal image of Pharo

2017-11-22 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi gabriel We added support for baseline on github in Pharo 70. It would be interesting to see if you get better smoother results with Pharo70. Stef On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 1:37 AM, gabriel sor wrote: > Hi, > In in the past days, in the context of the

Re: [Pharo-users] Travis build failing because of bad CRC

2017-11-22 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Marcus told me that he wants to address this problem because this is super annoying. Stef On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Julien wrote: > So the fix is just to relaunch the build? :-) > > Julien > >> Le 19 nov. 2017 à 19:56, Cyril Ferlicot D.

Re: [Pharo-users] Travis build failing because of bad CRC

2017-11-23 Thread Stephane Ducasse
This is super strange because I have a quite bad internet connection at home but I never have such problem just super slow donwload but this is my connection. Stef On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > Christophe, > >> Am 23.11.2017 um 09:33 schrieb

Re: [Pharo-users] Travis build failing because of bad CRC

2017-11-23 Thread Stephane Ducasse
I like your analysis and I share your frustration. And this is a so bad press for inria. Stef On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > > Am 23.11.2017 um 13:18 schrieb Christophe Demarey > : > > > Le 23 nov. 2017 à 12:34, Norbert

Re: [Pharo-users] I love the launcher!!!!

2017-11-23 Thread Stephane Ducasse
efficient and I like that. Stef On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Herby Vojčík <he...@mailbox.sk> wrote: > Stephane Ducasse wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> I love the PharoLauncher. > > > Pardon my question, I have downloaded it and looked at it, but I don't ge

Re: [Pharo-users] Why does the test runner show red when I correct a test?

2017-11-23 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi andrew I like your idea. It is fun and at least we can spot test. Now sometimes we will have to have self assert: true because running a code can be also considered as a test. Now what I do not like is empty test method because there are green. stef On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Prof.

Re: [Pharo-users] Why does the test runner show red when I correct a test?

2017-11-23 Thread Stephane Ducasse
BTW I like grey for a method that was edited in the debugger. Because red is not good. The proof is that when I rerun my test is green. While saying I do not know you have to rerun is a good solution. I like it. I got always frustrated with the red. On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 12:05 AM, Stephane

Re: [Pharo-users] files.pharo.org downloads => needs testers

2017-11-29 Thread Stephane Ducasse
This is a really excellent news! On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Christophe Demarey wrote: > Thanks Ben and John for the first feedbacks. > I also run a test on Travis CI: >

Re: [Pharo-users] files.pharo.org downloads => needs testers

2017-11-29 Thread Stephane Ducasse
ime Current Dload Upload Total SpentLeft Speed 100 17.7M 100 17.7M0 0 336k 0 0:00:53 0:00:53 --:--:-- 403k On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 8:58 PM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.s...@gmail.com> wrote: > This is a really excellent news! > &

Re: [Pharo-users] How to write a little REPL

2017-11-29 Thread Stephane Ducasse
On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Alistair Grant <akgrant0...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 28 November 2017 at 08:18, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.s...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> Sorry I wanted to have it in pharo :) > > Are you talking about having a terminal inside Pharo? Y

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-12-04 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi We have a full mooc with 90 videos, we have books. And we are super busy. You see we cannot do everything. Stef On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 5:15 AM, horrido wrote: > Speaking of which, one of my readers said he tried out Pharo recently and > found the documentation

[Pharo-users] How to remove method body?

2017-12-03 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi to prepare some code for students I want to convert methods into a kind of method skeleton ie printOn: aStream "super nice comment" lk;lk; kl;;kl k;lkl;k ^ 42 into printOn: aStream "super nice comment" ^ self any idea? In the past I know that we could access the

Re: [Pharo-users] P3 timeout

2017-12-04 Thread Stephane Ducasse
If you need help for your booklet setup let me know. Stef On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 1:02 AM, Pierce Ng <pie...@samadhiweb.com> wrote: > On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 02:03:13PM +0100, Stephane Ducasse wrote: >> It would be cool if we could get a little success stories around what &

Re: [Pharo-users] Problem loading image after changing resolution from 4Kto HD

2017-12-04 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi We are chasing a bug in FreeType. Some initialization order was wrong in 70alpha but it the fix does not apply to 61 :( and I finished to remove the plugin from my VM and use strike fonts. We should rewrite the FT plugin. STef On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Prof. Andrew P. Black

Re: [Pharo-users] Plotting a SMark report

2017-12-04 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Some difference are striking :) On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 5:09 AM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote: > Hi guys, > > I benchmarked five Levenshtein implementations today and just wonder > is there any package or extension which takes a SMark report and plot > a Roassal bar

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-12-04 Thread Stephane Ducasse
would it be? > > A newbie looking at this installation page and trying to get started with > Pharo under Linux would be totally confused and frustrated. Hell, *I'm > totally confused and frustrated!* As you see this can be fixed without losing more time on that. > > > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Launcher name

2017-12-17 Thread Stephane Ducasse
I agree with you and we should rename it PharoLauncher. Stef On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 12:32 AM, Glenn Hoetker wrote: > I love the Pharo Launcher. But, I find it confusing to have an application > called “Pharo.app”. Nothing in that name suggests it is a launcher. It is > also

Re: [Pharo-users] FLSerialization>>analysisStep too slow?

2017-12-17 Thread Stephane Ducasse
On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 6:47 AM, Eno wrote: > Well, it is just my intent to place related playgrounds, doc, help, and > classes/methods, mophic, tool browser etc into domain object dbs of > topics/playgrounds trees while exploring the image and studing/writing > packages. can

Re: [Pharo-users] FLSerialization>>analysisStep too slow?

2017-12-17 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Did you read the chapter on Metacello in deep into Pharo? in essence you create a class where you express dependencies to other projects and packages. Have a look at the configuration of Soup for example Object subclass: #ConfigurationOfSoup instanceVariableNames: 'project'

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo intro talk in spanish

2017-12-13 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Thanks a lot. I'm starting to learn spanish (you talk too fast but this is fun to hear). Stef On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 1:02 AM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote: > Thanks Rafael! > > Is good to see more content in native languages and support more > diversity and

Re: [Pharo-users] Iceberg: Code directory missing

2017-12-13 Thread Stephane Ducasse
I have a lot of "Clarification" wishe list ofr iceberg :) You cannot imagine it. :) On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 10:00 PM, Evan Donahue wrote: > Got it. I didn't realize the code subdirectory wasn't automatically created > by Iceberg if it didn't exist. I deleted the subdirectory

Re: [Pharo-users] REST client hints

2017-12-13 Thread Stephane Ducasse
https://github.com/RMODINRIA-Blockchain Inria = 200 teams 4000 researchers :) On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 9:12 AM, Ben Coman <b...@openinworld.com> wrote: > > > On 10 December 2017 at 15:27, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.s...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Tx for your r

Re: [Pharo-users] FLSerialization>>analysisStep too slow?

2017-12-16 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi eno can you tell us what is TkIDE? Because most of us are hobbysts the truth is in the eye of the beholder :) Stef On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 3:47 PM, Eno wrote: > > My package TkIDE relied on > object database, sandstone, to

Re: [Pharo-users] FLSerialization>>analysisStep too slow?

2017-12-16 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Do you want that I help you defining a configuration for your project? Stef On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.s...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi eno > > can you tell us what is TkIDE? > Because most of us are hobbysts the truth is in the eye of the behol

Re: [Pharo-users] Working directory

2017-12-16 Thread Stephane Ducasse
On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 12:01 PM, Ben Coman <b...@openinworld.com> wrote: > > > On 16 December 2017 at 16:02, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.s...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Hi ben >> >> We should think about it. Indeed. >> Now about the names. I'

Re: [Pharo-users] Iceberg is cool!

2017-12-15 Thread Stephane Ducasse
I need less features and more user friendly UI :) On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > I just got back from vacation and prepared a new image to work on the current > project. Well, I upgraded iceberg to 0.6.5 and everything works like > expected. I can

Re: [Pharo-users] Working directory

2017-12-16 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Now introducing a new name means that all the documentation, books, videos are obsolete. And this is a cost too. On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Alistair Grant wrote: > Hi Ben, > > On 15 December 2017 at 22:14, Ben Coman wrote: >> >> >> On 16

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo-Chrome (was: Soup bug(fix))

2017-11-17 Thread Stephane Ducasse
> > Well, in general the idea is to use the "upstream" project and not personal > forks. As far as I am aware of, I have merged all PR from Guille into > `master`. Ok so this is good > So unless he has recent commits that were not yet made available via a PR, > then my upstream project should be

Re: [Pharo-users] Anybody in this group in Bangalore or India

2017-11-17 Thread Stephane Ducasse
OKI On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Sanjay Minni <s...@planage.com> wrote: > Thanks, > > I will reach out, > Will request for a post in the blog when I have got something up > > Sanjay > > > Stephane Ducasse-3 wrote >> Thanks for the information. Let us

Re: [Pharo-users] I18n in pharo

2017-11-11 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi torsten Thanks for your summary. I was lost with all the efforts around. Two points: - I do not think that Pharo IDE should be multilingual - I would love to have one or two strong solutions for Application internationalisation. Now Questions: - what do you mean by propretiary solution. The

Re: [Pharo-users] I18n in pharo

2017-11-11 Thread Stephane Ducasse
tx hiliare for the feedback. On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Hilaire wrote: > You can go with http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras/Gettext > > For non latin language you will have to provide extra font at load time. > > It works fine on DrGeo based on P3, wtih Latin,

Re: [Pharo-users] I18n in pharo

2017-11-11 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hilaire I think that Pharo is getting a lot more modular. Do you imagine that we can reload Morphic? That we have a minimal image that does not rely on the compiler? and that we can reload the compiler, SUnit and more. We will start another pass because we will run an experience to get

Re: [Pharo-users] Unable to load SmaCC on pharo6 (or pharo5)

2017-11-11 Thread Stephane Ducasse
class name or a method name split by a hypen, like in SmaCC-Parser No > - how does one writes a reference to a section or a chapter? *@xxx* > > Thierry > > >> >> Stef >> >> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 6:47 AM, Thierry Goubier >> <thierry.goub...@gmail

Re: [Pharo-users] About implementing a "Mini Pillar" in-image renderer for Pharo ...

2017-11-11 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hannes We will start to repackage pillar model so finding a mini pillar is interesting to us. Let let us know. Stef On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 7:51 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > >> On Nov 10, 2017, at 9:20 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: >> >> Tudor

Re: [Pharo-users] I18n in pharo

2017-11-11 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Marcus translate is incomplete and I would not focus on translating Pharo. I would prefer to improve the self documentation in english. Let us concentrate where we can get better. Stef On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > > On 10 Nov 2017, at 11:18,

Re: [Pharo-users] About implementing a "Mini Pillar" in-image renderer for Pharo ...

2017-11-10 Thread Stephane Ducasse
On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 11:33 AM, H. Hirzel <hannes.hir...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello > > In the thread 'including Pillar in Pharo image by default' it was > suggested by Stephane Ducasse to include a subset of Pillar in the > Pharo image[1] . > > I'd like to extend

Re: [Pharo-users] QCMagritte on Github

2017-11-10 Thread Stephane Ducasse
For your information. We got some problem with travis (what a bad idea to have a syntax like yaml - our industry is looping , even xml is better). we spent more than 30 min trying with Guille and Andrew to use bash in a script section (while this is working in some guille project) it does not in

Re: [Pharo-users] Unable to load SmaCC on pharo6 (or pharo5)

2017-11-10 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi thierry we are working and soon we will have a much simpler installation and everything :) Now just commit and I will check and fix :) Stef On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 6:47 AM, Thierry Goubier <thierry.goub...@gmail.com> wrote: > Le 09/11/2017 à 21:02, Stephane Ducasse a écrit :

Re: [Pharo-users] Adding an Iceberg repository at startup

2017-11-10 Thread Stephane Ducasse
I will add this to the tips and tricks except is someone is faster than me. Stef On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 7:26 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Thanks guys. I ended up doing this: > > StartupPreferencesLoader default executeAtomicItems: { > StartupAction > name: '02

Re: [Pharo-users] deployment of pharo applications

2017-11-12 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Yes On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 4:39 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <s...@clipperadams.com> wrote: > Stephane Ducasse-3 wrote >>> Another stumbling block is application deployment. I've heard about some >>> "Launcher" but ... what is it? what it does? where to get

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo-users Digest, Vol 55, Issue 94

2017-11-12 Thread Stephane Ducasse
> > I may have chosen the wrong words, sorry for that. The OPs comments sounded > so much like "why don't you have it like VW does" that I couldn't resist ;-) Don't worry :) >> We have a dependency analyser that is really advanced since it can >> check that you have message that are not in

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo-users Digest, Vol 55, Issue 94

2017-11-12 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi vikenti Can you tell us what you are trying to do? So that we can help you. There is no deployement tools in Pharo. First because we can easily break the one of visualworks with reflective operations. Second because we are focusing on something else. Now you can take Pharo and remove some

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo-users Digest, Vol 55, Issue 94

2017-11-12 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Joachim We are focused on deployment but not the same way. We are the first system that bootstrap a core and can load dependencies on this core. We have a dependency analyser that is really advanced since it can check that you have message that are not in extension of packages that you use. In

Re: [Pharo-users] Soup bug(fix)

2017-11-12 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi alistair this is cool. Do you have one little example so that we can see how we can use it? Stef On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:38 PM, Alistair Grant wrote: > On 9 November 2017 at 00:00, Kjell Godo wrote: >> i like to collect some newspaper comics

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo-Chrome (was: Soup bug(fix))

2017-11-12 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Tx and one day we can turn it into another little booklet :) Stef On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Alistair Grant <akgrant0...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Stef, > > On 12 November 2017 at 14:47, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.s...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> exampleNavi

Re: [Pharo-users] deployment of pharo applications

2017-11-12 Thread Stephane Ducasse
On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 6:58 PM, Викентий Потапов wrote: > Well, i've got very extensive feedback for i18n of applications, there are > few solutions i can use, despite there is no united way embedded into pharo > view on application design. That's ok, i can do

Re: [Pharo-users] Writing "powerpoint" like presentations in Pharo?

2017-11-12 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi stefan I'm interested. So if you want that I do code review and ask super dumb questions let me know. Stef On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:12 PM, stephan wrote: > On 10-11-17 12:06, H. Hirzel wrote: >> >> Is the code available somewhere? > > > I've been fighting somewhat with

Re: [Pharo-users] Anybody in this group in Bangalore or India

2017-11-12 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi sanjay tell us more about this interesting project. BTW I would love to have a success story from india and I know that some people developed nice frameworks there but I forgot the contact. Stef On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Sanjay Minni wrote: > Hi, > > Is there

Re: [Pharo-users] I18n in pharo

2017-11-12 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Excellent Pavel. This is great. So I do not get it. What is then not working? Stef On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 12:13 AM, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > > > 2017-11-10 11:52 GMT+01:00 Hilaire : >> >> A cleaner Pharo will help there. >> >> To be frank, I found

Re: [Pharo-users] I18n in pharo

2017-11-12 Thread Stephane Ducasse
> Looks like a big sandwich, though. > > Will Athne be throwm away? With Polymorph and Morph? Yes. Morph and Polymorph as well as Athens but Sparta offers a similar API. So conversion should be easy. And Bloc opens a lot of possibilities. Bloc is the result of around 4 years of effort

Re: [Pharo-users] About implementing a "Mini Pillar" in-image renderer for Pharo ...

2017-11-12 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Sean why don't you try because this is the moment to push bloc people to produce simpler better solution. I should do it too. I know. Stef On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 3:58 AM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Tudor Girba-2 wrote >> That would be another renderer, but it is not

Re: [Pharo-users] I18n in pharo

2017-11-12 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hilaire Bloc, Brick are not in Pharo yet. So either you want to build on top of Bloc and you use Bloc or not. Easy. Right now in Pharo we have - plain Morphic (with Polymorph but this is the same) - Spec to build user interface independent of the underlying layer (Morphic for now) - Glamour to

Re: [Pharo-users] RBRuleIfNotNilDo usage

2017-11-12 Thread Stephane Ducasse
I wonder if we packaged somewhere the removed deprecated method. We should do that but since we do it manually I guess that this is ad-hoc. Stef On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Alistair Grant <akgrant0...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Stef, > > On 12 November 2017 at 14:34, S

Re: [Pharo-users] Stream API

2017-11-13 Thread Stephane Ducasse
But have you seen for example, #nextInt32 on > PositionableStream ? Good luck with that when the the underlying collection > is anything other than bytes. > > All this being said, there is no one, single correct answer. > > But if we all try to simplify what we expect of str

Re: [Pharo-users] FileReference>>#moveTo: across filesystems

2017-11-13 Thread Stephane Ducasse
This is great to see FileSystem improving. On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 7:11 PM, Alistair Grant wrote: > Hi Claudio, > > On 13 November 2017 at 18:49, Claudio Corrodi wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Manuel Leuenberger and I ran into an issue with the

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo-users Digest, Vol 55, Issue 102

2017-11-13 Thread Stephane Ducasse
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 2:55 AM, Викентий Потапов wrote: > > Thanks Stef, also thank all of you for your support. It is very important to > me and shows that Pharo is really in progress. > I didn't ever complained - i just asked simple questions on topics i don't >

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo-Chrome (was: Soup bug(fix))

2017-11-16 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi mariano pay attention to really use the version of guillermo because he was fixing some bugs. Stef On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 3:15 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > If this is a problem with OSSubprocess I am happy to help it debug it, but > please share with me the

Re: [Pharo-users] Stream API

2017-11-14 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Denis I agree. I do not like to code in reverse order. On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > 2017-11-14 16:30 GMT+01:00 Steffen Märcker : >> >> I forgot to mention, that the most recent code for Pharo is already on >> Github:

Re: [Pharo-users] Stream API

2017-11-14 Thread Stephane Ducasse
017 at 5:59 PM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.s...@gmail.com> wrote: > Denis I agree. I do not like to code in reverse order. > > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Denis Kudriashov <dionisi...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> 2017-11-14 16:30 GMT+01:00 Steffen Märcker <merk.

Re: [Pharo-users] About implementing a "Mini Pillar" in-image renderer for Pharo ...

2017-11-14 Thread Stephane Ducasse
;> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> On Nov 10, 2017, at 12:58 PM, H. Hirzel <hannes.hir...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> A note: >> >> Tudor Girba wrote: >> <tu...@tudorgirba.com> Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 1:31 PM >> Reply-To: Any

Re: [Pharo-users] I18n in pharo

2017-11-11 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi Pavel Does it make sense to have loaded by default? Stef On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 8:05 AM, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > > > 2017-11-09 23:50 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano : >> >> I think this is two different problems: >> >> 1. pharo itself supporting

Re: [Pharo-users] I18n in pharo

2017-11-11 Thread Stephane Ducasse
> > It’s quite a moving target with so many fundamental changes (GIT being one, > Bootstrap another huge one). I would not call it moving target. The API changes slowly and we deprecate most of them. > But I have the opposite impression (of course I don’t have to maintain a big > project

Re: [Pharo-users] New Pharo Booklet

2017-11-03 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hernan I was thinking about it this night. For the coloring we can also change the template. What we can do is to copy the book template and experiment. Stef On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.s...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi renaud > > thanks for the fee

Re: [Pharo-users] LiteratureResearcher - where graphs, PDFs, and BibTex happily live together

2017-11-03 Thread Stephane Ducasse
ows > you to relax security settings to make them work (How could it be someone > else than Adobe, when it’s a security issue? ;). > > I finished basic packaging today and will continue with some READMEs and a > nearly-all-in-one distribution tomorrow, I’ll keep you posted in this

Re: [Pharo-users] Looking for game state

2017-11-04 Thread Stephane Ducasse
One step at a time. Let us clean and build a nice workflow and then we will see :). On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Cédrick Béler <cdric...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Interested too :) > >> Le 3 nov. 2017 à 09:59, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.s...@gmail.com> a écri

Re: [Pharo-users] Looking for game state

2017-11-04 Thread Stephane Ducasse
will probably also implement this. Stef On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.s...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi > > I'm reading a nice book explaining Game AI logic and it uses state > design patterns and I would like to take it as an example for a future > boo

Re: [Pharo-users] Looking for game state

2017-11-04 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Thanks ben. there are nice piece of information. On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Ben Coman <b...@openinworld.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 4:59 PM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.s...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> I'm reading a nice

Re: [Pharo-users] Writing "powerpoint" like presentations in Pharo?

2017-11-04 Thread Stephane Ducasse
I think that this kind of experiences is excellent because this is exactly the level for Bloc. Stef On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > On 03/11/17 12:33, Tim Mackinnon wrote: >> >> Cool - great minds think alike ;) > > > :) > >> In your photo - there is

Re: [Pharo-users] Writing "powerpoint" like presentations in Pharo?

2017-11-04 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Stephan you can take a lot of the tests I wrote because I did it test first to see :) And yes it would be nice to have play with bloc to do that. Arg too many exciting things to do. On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 12:11 PM, stephan wrote: > On 01-11-17 19:35, Tim Mackinnon wrote:

Re: [Pharo-users] Looking for game state

2017-11-04 Thread Stephane Ducasse
it in Pharo. Stef On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 5:45 PM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.s...@gmail.com> wrote: > I decided to go with my kids to go for a hunter in Monster Hunters. > > Guillermo the book I'm reading is Programming Game AI by example. > I will implement the state machine and tur

[Pharo-users] [Pharo7.0a] Next batch of enhancements

2017-11-05 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Report period: 23 October 2017 to 5 November 2017 * 20632-Rename-PluggableSortFunction-to-CollatorBlockFunction >> PluggableSortFunction is renamed to CollatorBlockFunction Issue URL: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20632 PR URL:

[Pharo-users] nice CSS for the Pharo online HTML version?

2017-11-05 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi I’m looking for a nice CSS for the Pharo online HTML version. I found something like that https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2015/02/designers-start-coding-with-uilang/ Stef Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr http://www.synectique.eu /

Re: [Pharo-users] potentially useful diagrams

2017-11-01 Thread Stephane Ducasse
t;apply" the workflow? >> I mean: When saving changes? When cloning a repository? >> cloning+modification+publishing? etc >> >> I know a diagram/tools which explains very well the git nightmare: >> >> http://www.ndpsoftware.com/git-cheatsheet.html#loc=local_repo

Re: [Pharo-users] Writing "powerpoint" like presentations in Pharo?

2017-11-02 Thread Stephane Ducasse
I did that (well argh more than 12 years ago) now I do not think that I can find the code I will try It looks like I loaded in Pharo some years ago. Here the latest code I found (At that time I developed test first). I'm not sure that I will have the time to get a look. Stef On Wed, Nov 1, 2017

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