Re: [Pharo-users] CodeGenerator, your opinions?

Thank you Otto, I had a look and it seems a nice implementation (couldn't load into the image but using the Monticello Browser) Cheers, Hernán 2016-10-19 0:44 GMT-03:00 Otto Behrens : > > Do you mean internal or embedded DSL? I am open to write an DSL if > > facilitates the

Re: [Pharo-users] CodeGenerator, your opinions?

Hi Stef 2016-10-19 17:29 GMT-03:00 stepharo : > Hernan > > What is the input you take to generate magritte? > Something like this: CGStMagritte uniqueInstance inputClass: ModelClass1; targetClass: ModelClass1; setBooleanAttributes: 'instVar1'

Re: [Pharo-users] CodeGenerator, your opinions?

would be nice to ask dragos his Smalltalk code :) Le 18/10/16 à 21:20, p...@highoctane.be a écrit : http://www.micro-workflow.com/PDF/wecfo.pdf seemed interesting. Not state machines per se but still. Longer paper here: http://micro-workflow.com/PDF/phdthesis.pdf Phil On Tue, Oct 18, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] CodeGenerator, your opinions?

Looks fun :) Le 18/10/16 à 19:10, Evan Donahue a écrit : So this isn't a specific out-of-the-box solution to any of the code-generation use cases people have been discussing, but I thought it was relevant enough to toss it out there. I'm currently doing some work on program synthesis using a

Re: [Pharo-users] CodeGenerator, your opinions?

Hernan What is the input you take to generate magritte? Lionel would like to have a kind of Crud on top of Pharo and it would be good for business. Stef Le 18/10/16 à 18:07, Hernán Morales Durand a écrit : 2016-10-18 9:35 GMT-03:00 Lionel Akue

Re: [Pharo-users] CodeGenerator, your opinions?

Le 18/10/16 à 07:24, Hernán Morales Durand a écrit : Hi guys, I am writing a code generator, doing a few iterations right now. I want your opinion, which most useful thing would you like to be generated automatically? It could be a pattern, an idiom, another language... For example my own

Re: [Pharo-users] CodeGenerator, your opinions?

Sorry, I did not catch this thread before. If you are looking for a terse way to describe state machines, you may want to have a look at LRP, a live programming language for nested state machines (for robotics), implemented in Pharo. It seems to have what you are talking about in your mail.

Re: [Pharo-users] CodeGenerator, your opinions?

Sorry, I see there are some unresolved dependencies on our code. Let me know if I should work on that. On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 5:44 AM, Otto Behrens wrote: >> Do you mean internal or embedded DSL? I am open to write an DSL if >> facilitates the job, the thing with the Trevor's

Re: [Pharo-users] CodeGenerator, your opinions?

> Do you mean internal or embedded DSL? I am open to write an DSL if > facilitates the job, the thing with the Trevor's paper is that he defines 6 > implementations of FSM's (and in each implementation he considers several > issues leading to sub-implementations) so I would like a DSL which let me

Re: [Pharo-users] CodeGenerator, your opinions?

I would not hold my breath if I were you for 3 reasons 1) this idea will go through only if my direct bridge via shared memory between Pharo and Unreal fails are is proven very limited, which I highly doubt. 2) even if I proceed with it, I will certainly be specialised for Unreal and have little

Re: [Pharo-users] CodeGenerator, your opinions?

Yes, this is another one and I would like to see a nice interface to clang that then generated all the glue code for a given library based on its public header files. Smalltalk Agents used to do something like this. You could point it at a library and it would open it and generate Smalltalk

Re: [Pharo-users] CodeGenerator, your opinions?

Le 18/10/2016 à 15:45, Otto Behrens a écrit : for things like that, I would consider looking into the SmaCC visitor automatic generation. From an grammar, SmaCC creates the class, respecting an eventual inheritance constraint you specify, adds the instance variables, and generates the visitor

Re: [Pharo-users] CodeGenerator, your opinions?

http://www.micro-workflow.com/PDF/wecfo.pdf seemed interesting. Not state machines per se but still. Longer paper here: http://micro-workflow.com/PDF/phdthesis.pdf Phil On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 8:47 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras < vonbecm...@gmail.com> wrote: > Implementing State Machines in

Re: [Pharo-users] CodeGenerator, your opinions?

Implementing State Machines in Smalltalk (1993) Trevor Hopkins http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.31.6732 - A state machine generator (based in the excellent paper of Trevor P. > Hopkins) > > i add it to my reading list. thanks -- Bernardo E.C. Sent from a cheap desktop

Re: [Pharo-users] CodeGenerator, your opinions?

Sure I will look and let you know. Lionel Le 18 oct. 2016 18:07, "Hernán Morales Durand" a écrit : > > 2016-10-18 9:35 GMT-03:00 Lionel Akue : > >> Great! >> >> We had the same idea :) >> >> > Let me know if we can join forces to speed uo things.

Re: [Pharo-users] CodeGenerator, your opinions?

They are useful for writing VM plugins for example. The generic part. On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 6:53 PM, Todd Blanchard wrote: > My personal feeling on code generators is they are a bad code smell and > the desire to use them tends to imply that your programming language isn't

Re: [Pharo-users] CodeGenerator, your opinions?

So this isn't a specific out-of-the-box solution to any of the code-generation use cases people have been discussing, but I thought it was relevant enough to toss it out there. I'm currently doing some work on program synthesis using a Pharo port of the miniKanren logic programming language

Re: [Pharo-users] CodeGenerator, your opinions?

My personal feeling on code generators is they are a bad code smell and the desire to use them tends to imply that your programming language isn't dynamic enough. That said I have used DNE on proto object proxies to capture messages sent and generate handlers (I have used this on Morphic to

Re: [Pharo-users] CodeGenerator, your opinions?

2016-10-18 9:35 GMT-03:00 Lionel Akue : > Great! > > We had the same idea :) > > Let me know if we can join forces to speed uo things. > The first requirements I wrote was to generate Spec UI directly. But I > rather chose to make Magritte compatible with Spec. > > So

Re: [Pharo-users] CodeGenerator, your opinions?

Hi Otto, 2016-10-18 5:01 GMT-03:00 Otto Behrens : > +1 for the visitor. What would be nice is to generate methods in the > form #visit: for all classes in a given hierarchy (eg > Magritte's MAVisitor). The default implementation of such a method > would be to call #visit: > >

Re: [Pharo-users] CodeGenerator, your opinions?

Hi Dimitris, That would be certainly nice. C++ is hard, but if one start with a basic instantiation template it could be easier to move forward to more complex tasks like mapping data structures to STL, their containers and iterators. And I think it would attract C++ developers to Smalltalk.

Re: [Pharo-users] CodeGenerator, your opinions?

> for things like that, I would consider looking into the SmaCC visitor > automatic generation. From an grammar, SmaCC creates the class, respecting > an eventual inheritance constraint you specify, adds the instance variables, > and generates the visitor (and an equality test too). Nice. Will

Re: [Pharo-users] CodeGenerator, your opinions?

Great! We had the same idea :) The first requirements I wrote was to generate Spec UI directly. But I rather chose to make Magritte compatible with Spec. So from the Magritte description, we could generate Spec, Seaside ... Lionel 2016-10-18 14:20 GMT+02:00 Peter Uhnak :

Re: [Pharo-users] CodeGenerator, your opinions?

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 02:24:28AM -0300, Hernán Morales Durand wrote: > - A Spec UI generator. Oh, and Stephan did CRUD(e) Spec generator http://forum.world.st/ANN-SpecGenerator-easy-CRUD-applications-with-Spec-td4889624.html Peter

Re: [Pharo-users] CodeGenerator, your opinions?

Hi Hernan, I wrote some time ago two basic code generators (both in Pharo) from UML-ified FAMIX for a particular user (so there are some domain-specific patterns), one for Pharo syntax ( https://github.com/OpenPonk/class-editor/blob/master/docs/code-generation/uml-to-code.md ) and one for VW

Re: [Pharo-users] CodeGenerator, your opinions?

Hi Otto, for things like that, I would consider looking into the SmaCC visitor automatic generation. From an grammar, SmaCC creates the class, respecting an eventual inheritance constraint you specify, adds the instance variables, and generates the visitor (and an equality test too).

Re: [Pharo-users] CodeGenerator, your opinions?

+1 for the visitor. What would be nice is to generate methods in the form #visit: for all classes in a given hierarchy (eg Magritte's MAVisitor). The default implementation of such a method would be to call #visit: We have been using state machines for a long time and have built generators for it

Re: [Pharo-users] CodeGenerator, your opinions?

There is the CCodeGenerator , which is basically Slang, Smalltalk that is turned into basic C. I would like to expand it to generate C++ at some point for converting pharo code to C++ code that I will be able to add to Unreal. Though its a very low priority project for me.