Re: [Pharo-users] New type of web application using HTML, CSS and Smalltalk

2020-06-26 Thread Erik Stel
Hi, It took a bit longer than planned, but my code can be found online. https://github.com/ErikOnBike/CodeParadise Interested to hear your experience. Please add issues on Github if you encounter problems. Cheers, Erik -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Re: [Pharo-users] New type of web application using HTML, CSS and Smalltalk

2020-05-06 Thread Craig Latta
Hi Paul-- > I wonder if you had or could make something like this: > > https://jgthms.com/web-design-in-4-minutes/ > > that shows the value of caffeine in a way being placed into the > default dev environment + readme doesn't. Yes indeed, I expect to produce such material. > It seems

Re: [Pharo-users] New type of web application using HTML, CSS and Smalltalk

2020-05-06 Thread Craig Latta
> [Caffeine is] something very different from a standard single-page Web > app showing standard HTML elements and no IDE in sight, in exchange > for a small footprint. It depends what you do with it. Caffeine can interact with the web browser and other JavaScript frameworks just as any JS

Re: [Pharo-users] New type of web application using HTML, CSS and Smalltalk

2020-05-05 Thread Paul DeBruicker
Ahh. Apologies. I don't think I understand your point. Are you saying Smalltalkers habitually make obscure/cool things with no documentation and leave their coolness to make their case for adoption rather then helping people adopt them with documentation & other help? Or something else? I

Re: [Pharo-users] New type of web application using HTML, CSS and Smalltalk

2020-05-05 Thread ponyatov
> I've watched the youtube presentation and navigated through the impress > presentation on your site and it too quickly introduces tons of concepts > of > what you can do but nothing about why anyone should want to do those > things > or how to put them together into something a user would use

Re: [Pharo-users] New type of web application using HTML, CSS and Smalltalk

2020-05-05 Thread Konrad Hinsen
Hi Craig, >> ...Even better, a standalone application that could be hosted on >> a plain static server, since all the code would run client-side. > > E.g., https://caffeine.js.org/3d Yes, caffeine is impressive, but also something very different from a standard single-page Web app showing

Re: [Pharo-users] New type of web application using HTML, CSS and Smalltalk

2020-05-05 Thread Konrad Hinsen
Hi Erik, > So it could be a way of creating standalone web applications. If that was > the thought behind the question. Exactly. Even better, a standalone application that could be hosted on a plain static server, since all the code would run client-side. > I did use this mechanism of creating

Re: [Pharo-users] New type of web application using HTML, CSS and Smalltalk

2020-05-05 Thread Erik Stel
Hi Konrad, Correct, the minimal image is running on SqueakJS VM. You can find info here: https://squeak.js.org Interesting question regarding deployment. In my current setup you do need the server, but it is not unrealistic to have a setup in which at some point the client is asked to create a

Re: [Pharo-users] New type of web application using HTML, CSS and Smalltalk

2020-05-04 Thread Konrad Hinsen
Hi Erik, I have published my first demo of a new type of webapplication based on a tiny Smalltalk image running in the browser, acting as the JS-engine. Create a dynamic application using Smalltalk only, with the direct manipulation you're familiar with from Smalltalk. And ...(in the near

Re: [Pharo-users] New type of web application using HTML, CSS and Smalltalk

2020-05-03 Thread Cédrick Béler
Really great Erik. I just want to try ! ;-) This is great to see such practical and cool uses of small images. It’s a long dream that seems happening. And of course, thanks to all people who made it possible, especially those who work on the bootstrap process and others in general (the list is

Re: [Pharo-users] New type of web application using HTML, CSS and Smalltalk

2020-05-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Ok I did not hear that you were talking :) > On 3 May 2020, at 22:30, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > > Hi erik > > this is strange since during a couple of minutes we do not see much. > > S. > >> On 3 May 2020, at 20:11, Erik Stel > > wrote: >> >> I have published

Re: [Pharo-users] New type of web application using HTML, CSS and Smalltalk

2020-05-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi erik this is strange since during a couple of minutes we do not see much. S. > On 3 May 2020, at 20:11, Erik Stel wrote: > > I have published my first demo of a new type of webapplication based on a > tiny Smalltalk image running in the browser, acting as the JS-engine. Create > a

[Pharo-users] New type of web application using HTML, CSS and Smalltalk

2020-05-03 Thread Erik Stel
I have published my first demo of a new type of webapplication based on a tiny Smalltalk image running in the browser, acting as the JS-engine. Create a dynamic application using Smalltalk only, with the direct manipulation you're familiar with from Smalltalk. And ...(in the near future)... with