Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

2017-08-24 Thread TedVanGaalen
yes, after full screen -> normal window -> minimise -> reshow it did. (not in any particular order, tried al those before as well) TedvG > On 24. Aug 2017, at 15:46, EstebanLM [via Smalltalk] > wrote: > > and image still freezing? > > Esteban > >> On

Re: [Pharo-users] Object>>#name deprecated in Pharo 6 -- what do I need to do?

2017-08-24 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
It says so "on the tin" i.e. in the exception itself "Implement your own domain representation of an object, or use #asString or #printString instead." ;-) > On 24 Aug 2017, at 14:49, H. Hirzel wrote: > > Hello > > In the last days there was a discussion that > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo and QT

2017-08-24 Thread Shalok Shalom via Pharo-users
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Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] TechTalk Dates for the rest of 2017

2017-08-24 Thread Alexandre Bergel
>> ​I thought that Pharo tech talk was only for core Pharo technologies. > > Why? We did have e.g. a talk about Roassal already. Keep in mind that Alex’ > lecture uses > Pharo as the programming language to implement the AI stuff… Yes, I will do - a lot of programming in Pharo

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

2017-08-24 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
it may have something to do with FreeType. Can you try removing/renaming Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Plugins/libFT2Plugin.dylib ? (just to test) thanks, Esteban > On 24 Aug 2017, at 14:00, TedVanGaalen wrote: > > Yesterday 23 Aug, I completely deleted all Pharo 6.1 64 bit

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

2017-08-24 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
and image still freezing? Esteban > On 24 Aug 2017, at 15:28, TedVanGaalen wrote: > > Hi Esteban, > unfortunately that doesn’t make any difference. > What I did: > extension temporarily renamed to …..wasAdylib > Started Pharo app by clikcing on it (gets the downloaded

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] TechTalk Dates for the rest of 2017

2017-08-24 Thread Marcus Denker
> On 24 Aug 2017, at 12:02, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > > > > On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 8:31 AM, Marcus Denker > wrote: > > > On 21 Aug 2017, at 19:08, serge.stinckw...@gmail.com > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

2017-08-24 Thread TedVanGaalen
Yesterday 23 Aug, I completely deleted all Pharo 6.1 64 bit and then downloaded and reinstalled it, but the same problems are still present. Then I installed Squeak5.1-16549-64bit, which works without problems. (I don't know if it uses the same VM as Pharo 6.1 64 bit?, if that is true, then the

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-24 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Actually I have already done this https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/PharoWiki/blob/master/contents/projects.md when he announced the project on the mailing list, but thanks for trying to inform me, I appreciate it. I will try to update the wiki each time something new pops up in the

Re: [Pharo-users] PetitParser catalog entry for Pharo 6.0/6.1? (Re: YAML parser (2017))

2017-08-24 Thread H. Hirzel
It was easier than I thought. I loaded a pristine Pharo 6.1 image curl get.pharo.org | bash (in Ubuntu 14.04) Then in a playground I executed Metacello new smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'PetitParser'; configuration: 'PetitParser'; version:

Re: [Pharo-users] PetitParser catalog entry for Pharo 6.0/6.1? (Re: YAML parser (2017))

2017-08-24 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Hannes, Indeed, we did not yet release PetitParser for Pharo 6.0. We delayed a bit too long this release. In the meantime, here is a script that automates what you are loading manually: Metacello new smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'PetitParser'; configuration:

Re: [Pharo-users] PetitParser catalog entry for Pharo 6.0/6.1? (Re: YAML parser (2017))

2017-08-24 Thread H. Hirzel
Thank you for the quick answer, Doru. An additional question: I want to use PetitParser and Pillar in the same image. Pillar has a 6.0 catalog entry. Pillar also uses PetitParser. Should I load Pillar first from the catalog and then run the PetitParser / YAML load script you gave me or do it

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-24 Thread H. Hirzel
Another thing to add link to https://github.com/dionisiydk/TelePharo with short description Complete toolset for remote development of Pharo images. It includes: remote playground remote browser remote debugger remote inspector remote process browser On 8/22/17, Dimitris

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

2017-08-24 Thread TedVanGaalen
Hi Esteban, unfortunately that doesn’t make any difference. What I did: extension temporarily renamed to …..wasAdylib Started Pharo app by clikcing on it (gets the downloaded maiden image) then: “FT2Error:Freetype2 primitive failed [error -1][can’t get error string]” this screen dump is

[Pharo-users] Object>>#name deprecated in Pharo 6 -- what do I need to do?

2017-08-24 Thread H. Hirzel
Hello In the last days there was a discussion that Object>>#name should no longer be used. I did not follow the discussion in detail. What was decided how #name should be replaced? What do I need to do if I get a deprecation warning [1]? Thanks for the answer in advance Hannes [1]

Re: [Pharo-users] Brea wiki software

2017-08-24 Thread Offray
Hannes, Fossil give me distributed wiki support out of the box, but the content stored there are just STON serialized objects, so maybe this can work also for your JSON needs. Next week I'll have more code. Cheers, Offray El 24 de agosto de 2017 4:30:37 GMT-05:00, "H. Hirzel"

Re: [Pharo-users] SmartTest - ESUG 2017 - Trailer

2017-08-24 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
lol by far the most funny pharo teaser I have watched and the tool looks extra useful , well done :) On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 6:33 PM Benoit Verhaeghe wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm glad to present you the trailer of SmartTest for ESUG >

Re: [Pharo-users] Minimizing an Application

2017-08-24 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Indeed that can be a barrier but why you would want to transmit an entire image instead of portion of it using something like fuel files or other binary formats ? It would dramatically reduce the size of data you transmit. On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 8:10 PM Craig Latta

Re: [Pharo-users] Minimizing an Application

2017-08-24 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
2017-08-24 14:51 GMT-03:00 stephan : > On 22-08-17 12:46, horrido wrote: >> >> If you start with a minimal imaqe, it's not obvious to me how you'd add a >> missing class and pull in all of its dependencies (which can be >> voluminous). >> And for a large application, there could

Re: [Pharo-users] Minimizing an Application

2017-08-24 Thread Craig Latta
> ...10mbs which is the size pharo image can be reduced to is nothing > for todays TBs hard drives and GBs flash drives and online storage. > Unless you do an embedded app and 10 mbs are huge for your limited > storage. Or you want to minimize initial startup time, including the time it

Re: [Pharo-users] Minimizing an Application

2017-08-24 Thread stephan
On 22-08-17 12:46, horrido wrote: If you start with a minimal imaqe, it's not obvious to me how you'd add a missing class and pull in all of its dependencies (which can be voluminous). And for a large application, there could be many, many missing classes. This sounds rather arduous. That has

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-24 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 11:32 PM Stephane Ducasse wrote: > You have Netstyle/Workflow too. > done "Why are you using markup documents to create the wiki when you could use Github wiki itself? For portability?" good question. Yes for flexibility , another reason

Re: [Pharo-users] SmartTest - ESUG 2017 - Trailer

2017-08-24 Thread Stephane Ducasse
:) Ready for the ESUG innovation award competition. On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 6:49 PM, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > lol by far the most funny pharo teaser I have watched and the tool looks > extra useful , well done :) > > On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 6:33 PM Benoit Verhaeghe

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pillar] Installed the Pillar document preparation system into 6.1, how do I start using it?

2017-08-24 Thread Stephane Ducasse
In Pharo 60 (and not in Pharo 50) I extracted the command line logic into a specific object so that we do not have to be bound to use the command line. You can have a look in the CLI package. This is good that there is Section 7 this in the doc. We started to build a simple Morphic renderer for

Re: [Pharo-users] Object>>#name deprecated in Pharo 6 -- what do I need to do?

2017-08-24 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Yes Object >> name is deprecated. A huge victory against evil ideas :) I'm proud of us. On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 6:02 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > It says so "on the tin" i.e. in the exception itself > > "Implement your own domain representation of an object, or use

Re: [Pharo-users] YAML parser (2017)

2017-08-24 Thread Stephane Ducasse
I love such green tests. On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 1:48 PM, H. Hirzel wrote: > Reported to Doru and he answered that they will come up with a release > of PetitParser for 6.0/6.1. > > The installation script to use in the meantime is: > > Metacello new >

Re: [Pharo-users] Where do I find a Pillar syntax summary?

2017-08-24 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Good suggestion. Now I have no time for pillar per se. Now if you do it I will add it to pillar without hesitation. Tomorrow we will use bintray for all the projects to save the pdf (booklet, books). migrate the mooc to the makefile generator developed by luc. make sure that it works for

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-24 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
Why are you using markup documents to create the wiki when you could use Github wiki itself? For portability? Esteban A. Maringolo 2017-08-24 9:59 GMT-03:00 Dimitris Chloupis : > Actually I have already done this > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Object>>#name deprecated in Pharo 6 -- what do I need to do?

2017-08-24 Thread Ben Coman
I don't have an Image to check, but I believe Object>>name just does "^self printString", so by default, in your application send #printString instead of #name. cheers -ben P.S. Perhaps this would be a good candidate for automated rewrite? On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 8:49 PM, H. Hirzel

Re: [Pharo-users] Glorp: Is there some way to do insert-or-update?

2017-08-24 Thread herby
On August 24, 2017 7:26:00 AM GMT+02:00, "jtuc...@objektfabrik.de" wrote: >Am 23.08.17 um 11:08 schrieb Herby Vojčík: >> jtuchel wrote: >>> Herby, >>> >>> as Esteban already said, UPSERT doesn't make any sense in an ORM. It >> >> I don't know... I just create new

Re: [Pharo-users] new chapter on double dispatch for new book :)

2017-08-24 Thread herby
On August 23, 2017 10:09:02 PM GMT+02:00, Stephane Ducasse wrote: >On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 9:20 PM, Herby Vojčík wrote: >> Maybe in general sumWithFoo: => addSelfToFoo: to make clues clearer. > >I see now it should be more >addSelfWithFoo: or

Re: [Pharo-users] Brea wiki software

2017-08-24 Thread H. Hirzel
Offray Thanks for the two answers and in particular. Fossil is as a data store and version control system is a good solution. But I have to use a JSON data store. So my interest is that I can hook that up to Brea. (or as a first step just keep the objects in the image -- image persistence) Next

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] TechTalk Dates for the rest of 2017

2017-08-24 Thread Marcus Denker
Yes! https://association.pharo.org/event-2642664 > On 23 Aug 2017, at 08:39, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > I would be in, too. It'll be on 17th of october fix? > > Norbert > >> Am 21.08.2017 um 18:38 schrieb Alexandre Bergel : >> >> Hi! >>

[Pharo-users] PetitParser catalog entry for Pharo 6.0/6.1? (Re: YAML parser (2017))

2017-08-24 Thread H. Hirzel
Hello Doru Stephane Ducasse pointed out that you maintain PetitParser [1] The Pharo 6 catalog does not contain an entry for the PetitParser package. I installed in manually in order to have a good version of a YAML parser (all tests green). This is what I did: a) I loaded

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pillar] Installed the Pillar document preparation system into 6.1, how do I start using it?

2017-08-24 Thread H. Hirzel
Fine, thank you, Stephane. I have Pillar now installed in 6.1. And a PetitParser version which supports YAML, but in a different 6.1 image. One issue is that I can have both in the same image - 1) Pillar loaded through the catalog 2) a good recent PetitParser version See also my email to Tudor

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] TechTalk Dates for the rest of 2017

2017-08-24 Thread Serge Stinckwich
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 8:31 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > > On 21 Aug 2017, at 19:08, serge.stinckw...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > I'm not sure Pharo tech talk is the good place but would love to see > such a presentation. > > > Why not? I am sure Alex will have some code in

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] TechTalk Dates for the rest of 2017

2017-08-24 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
> On 24 Aug 2017, at 12:02, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > > > > On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 8:31 AM, Marcus Denker > wrote: > > > On 21 Aug 2017, at 19:08, serge.stinckw...@gmail.com > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

2017-08-24 Thread Ben Coman
What happens if you untick "Use FreeType" in System > Settings? cheers -ben On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 10:06 PM, TedVanGaalen wrote: > yes, after full screen -> normal window -> minimise -> reshow it did. > (not in any particular order, tried al those before as well) > > TedvG

Re: [Pharo-users] Minimizing an Application

2017-08-24 Thread Ben Coman
I understand that to mean effectively that you are "opening" the image across the net - so eventually you need to whole image transmitted, but you don't have to wait for the whole thing before you start running it. cheers -ben On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 2:00 AM, Dimitris Chloupis

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

2017-08-24 Thread john pfersich
I don't know if it matters, but on my Retina 5K, 27 inch, Late 2015 iMac, AMD Radeon R9 M395 wirh 2048 MB running MacOS 10.12.6 I don't have a problem resizing or maximizing Pharo 6.1. On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 6:28 AM, Ted F.A.van Gaalen wrote: > > > > Hi, I reverted to 5.0