Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are good reasons to use Smalltalk?

2020-05-23 Thread horrido
I can come up with one counter-example. I've been on Quora for the past several years. From time to time, I encounter weird behaviour in Chrome. When I try to confirm this in Firefox, the issue goes away! And, of course, my Smalltalk poll is another counter-example. Esteban A. Maringolo wrote

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are good reasons to use Smalltalk?

2020-05-21 Thread Vitor Medina Cruz
Thanks! " When/if smalltalk grows to a web scale " Let's hope so :) On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 4:09 PM Esteban Maringolo wrote: > On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 11:34 AM Vitor Medina Cruz > wrote: > > Sorry, I mean how so are Smalltalk systems less compatible than web > browsers are? > > Different

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are good reasons to use Smalltalk?

2020-05-21 Thread Esteban Maringolo
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 11:34 AM Vitor Medina Cruz wrote: > Sorry, I mean how so are Smalltalk systems less compatible than web browsers > are? Different dialects have different features (e.g. Namespaces, Traits), syntax, image format... Smalltalk is a concept, with Smalltalk-80 as the

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are good reasons to use Smalltalk?

2020-05-21 Thread Vitor Medina Cruz
> > You can have a webpage, or even a web application (JS) and it will run > exactly the same on all major, modern, web-browsers (Chromium, Safari > and Firefox). > Sorry, I mean how so are Smalltalk systems less compatible than web browsers are? This means between different distributions of

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are good reasons to use Smalltalk?

2020-05-21 Thread Esteban Maringolo
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 10:37 AM Vitor Medina Cruz wrote: > > Richard > > "The browsers are *way* more compatible than Smalltalk systems are." > > How so? You can have a webpage, or even a web application (JS) and it will run exactly the same on all major, modern, web-browsers (Chromium, Safari

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are good reasons to use Smalltalk?

2020-05-21 Thread Vitor Medina Cruz
Richard "The browsers are *way* more compatible than Smalltalk systems are." How so? On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 4:11 AM Richard O'Keefe wrote: > The browsers are *way* more compatible than Smalltalk systems are. > I once spoke to a manager at a company I shan't name (it does not > exist any

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are good reasons to use Smalltalk?

2020-05-19 Thread Richard O'Keefe
The browsers are *way* more compatible than Smalltalk systems are. I once spoke to a manager at a company I shan't name (it does not exist any more) about a new international standard being developed relating to their product (not Smalltalk). "We don't care about the standard," he replied, "we

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are good reasons to use Smalltalk?

2020-05-18 Thread Richard Sargent
On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 4:01 PM horrido wrote: > It's 2020 and we're still faced with browser compatibility issues?!! > > Man, the web is really a piece o' sh*t. > Ah, you forgot the little detail about having to authorize 3-4 dozen(!) scripts from many different sources to run on your computer

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are good reasons to use Smalltalk?

2020-05-18 Thread horrido
It's 2020 and we're still faced with browser compatibility issues?!! Man, the web is really a piece o' sh*t. Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas-2 wrote > Same for Firefox. I thought the poll was closed when I visited. Now I > can check it works on Chromium. I wonder how many people tried to >

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are good reasons to use Smalltalk?

2020-05-16 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Same for Firefox. I thought the poll was closed when I visited. Now I can check it works on Chromium. I wonder how many people tried to participate before but has not the proper browser to do it and not even a clue about that. How could be this pull be made more open and accessible? Cheers,

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are good reasons to use Smalltalk?

2020-05-15 Thread horrido
I've changed the word "developers" to "people". In a poll, it's hard to keep the question's answers brief and to the point. You don't want to be too wordy. So I have to choose my words very, very carefully so that I can be as concise as possible. I don't know how successful I am. Richard

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are good reasons to use Smalltalk?

2020-05-15 Thread Esteban Maringolo
I don't know what is behind the poll system, but it doesn't work in Brave browser. It simply says "Thanks for participating in the poll." I find the questions confusing though. Esteban A. Maringolo On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 4:43 PM Richard Kenneth Eng wrote: > >

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are good reasons to use Smalltalk?

2020-05-15 Thread Richard Sargent
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 1:31 PM horrido wrote: > I've updated the poll question, but since there are already 56 votes, it > looks like nobody chose my new addition. Perhaps more of you should vote to > change that. > Communicating with developers is implicit. My point was about communicating

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are good reasons to use Smalltalk?

2020-05-15 Thread horrido
I've updated the poll question, but since there are already 56 votes, it looks like nobody chose my new addition. Perhaps more of you should vote to change that. horrido wrote > You are quite right. How did I manage to miss that?!! > > > Richard Sargent wrote >> You missed the fact that it

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are good reasons to use Smalltalk?

2020-05-15 Thread Vitor Medina Cruz
You should make something similar but inverted, like: Why do you think Smalltalk should not be used? --or What are the problems you have that prevents you of using Smalltalk? I have seen many such posts of Smalltalk wonders, and while I agree with most of them, it seems that they aren't enough

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are good reasons to use Smalltalk?

2020-05-15 Thread horrido
You are quite right. How did I manage to miss that?!! Richard Sargent wrote > You missed the fact that it makes it easier to communicate with the user > community, since it's a "near-English" grammar, and you can easily use a > common terminology. > > > On Wed, May 13, 2020, 12:43 Richard

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are good reasons to use Smalltalk?

2020-05-13 Thread Richard O'Keefe
This is an ambiguous question. There are at least - Smalltalk the language - Smalltalk the libraries - Smalltalk the IDE Now my own Smalltalk system does not have an IDE, it does not support run-time modifications to the system, and it does not (yet) have graphics. But I still enjoy using it and

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are good reasons to use Smalltalk?

2020-05-13 Thread Richard Sargent
You missed the fact that it makes it easier to communicate with the user community, since it's a "near-English" grammar, and you can easily use a common terminology. On Wed, May 13, 2020, 12:43 Richard Kenneth Eng wrote: > >