Re: [Pharo-users] GemStone/S on Docker?

2018-04-10 Thread Jupiter Jones 
I’ve copied this to the GemStone list to continue the discussion.

> I wouldn't. The excellent work of Norbert was later 
> inspired/continuated/extended officially by GemStone under a much bigger 
> project called GsDevKit [1]
> 
> [1] https://github.com/GsDevKit/GsDevKit_home 
> 
+1 GsDevKit - it’s excellent for use in both development and deployment.

There’s also an ansible project [1] which may offer some guidance.

If you were planning to build containers for GemStone, there are a bunch of 
possible roles a single host might play in larger systems, but as a minimum:

1. Stone - where the repository (image) is physically managed. Typically only 
one per deployment (or more for warm failover)
2. Gem - where the VM’s run your application or services. Instances scale with 
your application.
3. Shared Page Cache - essentially shared memory access to the image that can 
be deployed in many ways to turn your applications. 

There’s a rundown on connecting distributed systems in the GS System Admin 
Guide [2]. There are likely many other roles right down to transaction logs and 
repository extents (the physical files on disc where your image is persisted), 
it just depends on how far you want to go with the flexibility of the docker 
containers.

This said, GsDevKit will setup the above three roles on a single host which 
will suit development and deployment of any small application.

Cheers,
J

[1] https://github.com/GsDevKit/GsDevKit_ansible 

[2] 
https://downloads.gemtalksystems.com/docs/GemStone64/3.4.x/GS64-SysAdminGuide-3.4/GS64-SysAdminGuide-3.4.htm?https://downloads.gemtalksystems.com/docs/GemStone64/3.4.x/GS64-SysAdminGuide-3.4/5-Distributed.htm

Re: [Pharo-users] GemStone/S on Docker?

2018-04-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck 
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 9:32 AM, sergio ruiz  wrote:

>
> What do you mean by „something that doesn’t require refactoring“ ?
>
>
> I used mongo voyager for a few projects.. i ended up having to refactor
> here and there to get it to work (to connect my data mongodb).. I’d like to
> try an object database.
>
>
> I think to put GemStone/S on docker should be easy package wise. Years ago
> when I used GemStone I created these scripts
>
> https://github.com/noha/stone-creator
>
>
>
> great! i’ll take a look at this.
>
>
I wouldn't. The excellent work of Norbert was later
inspired/continuated/extended officially by GemStone under a much bigger
project called GsDevKit [1]

[1] https://github.com/GsDevKit/GsDevKit_home

Cheers,



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>
>
> 
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Re: [Pharo-users] GemStone/S on Docker?

2018-04-10 Thread Esteban Lorenzano 


> On 10 Apr 2018, at 14:32, sergio ruiz  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> What do you mean by „something that doesn’t require refactoring“ ?
>> 
> 
> I used mongo voyager for a few projects.. i ended up having to refactor here 
> and there to get it to work (to connect my data mongodb).. I’d like to try an 
> object database.

I could use an example of those refactors. 
the objective of Voyage is to not need that :)

cheers,
Esteban

> 
> 
>> I think to put GemStone/S on docker should be easy package wise. Years ago 
>> when I used GemStone I created these scripts
>> 
>> https://github.com/noha/stone-creator 
>> 
>> 
> 
> great! i’ll take a look at this.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> peace,
> sergio
> photographer, journalist, visionary
> 
> Public Key: http://bit.ly/29z9fG0 
> #BitMessage BM-NBaswViL21xqgg9STRJjaJaUoyiNe2dV
> http://www.codeandmusic.com 
> http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101 
> http://www.facebook.com/sergio101

Re: [Pharo-users] GemStone/S on Docker?

2018-04-10 Thread sergio ruiz 

What do you mean by „something that doesn’t require refactoring“ ?


I used mongo voyager for a few projects.. i ended up having to refactor here 
and there to get it to work (to connect my data mongodb).. I’d like to try an 
object database.


I think to put GemStone/S on docker should be easy package wise. Years ago when 
I used GemStone I created these scripts

https://github.com/noha/stone-creator



great! i’ll take a look at this.

Thanks!



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Re: [Pharo-users] GemStone/S on Docker?

2018-04-10 Thread Norbert Hartl 


> Am 10.04.2018 um 05:03 schrieb sergio ruiz :
> 
> Has anyone set up GemStone/S on Docker?
> 
> I have another project that I need persistence on. In the past, I have use 
> voyager, but I’d really like to use something that doesn’t require 
> refactoring. I was looking at Magma, but it looks like that is Squeak only.
> 
> 
What do you mean by „something that doesn’t require refactoring“ ?

I think to put GemStone/S on docker should be easy package wise. Years ago when 
I used GemStone I created these scripts

https://github.com/noha/stone-creator 

in order to create a simple directory containing a stone. This directory would 
be suitable to be copied into a docker image. The extent and log dirs can then 
be mapped from the outside. But I’m not sure it will work out at the end. 
Docker is for isolating processes from the underlying OS. But GemStone 
limitations of the community edition use e.g. CPU pinning to make sure you only 
use two cores. I don’t know if those things can conflict with the way docker 
works. But if you are successful let me know :)

Norbert
> 
> peace,
> sergio
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> 
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Re: [Pharo-users] GemStone/S on Docker?

2018-04-09 Thread Paul DeBruicker 
Not that I know of but there is a gemstone list here where you should ask: 

http://forum.world.st/GLASS-f1460844.html


Someone there may have.  


I think there is an effort to port Magma to Pharo if you search on
forum.world.st you may be able to find it easily.  There is also GLORP
http://forum.world.st/GLORP-f3496819.html






sergio_101 wrote
> Has anyone set up GemStone/S on Docker?
> 
> I have another project that I need persistence on. In the past, I have use
> voyager, but I’d really like to use something that doesn’t require
> refactoring. I was looking at Magma, but it looks like that is Squeak
> only.
> 
> 
> 
> peace,
> sergio
> photographer, journalist, visionary
> 
> Public Key: http://bit.ly/29z9fG0
> #BitMessage BM-NBaswViL21xqgg9STRJjaJaUoyiNe2dV
> http://www.codeandmusic.com
> http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
> http://www.facebook.com/sergio101
> 
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