[Phono-L] Edison Idelia at Union

2008-07-02 Thread Jim Nichol
The Idelia was in the following link that was posted here a few days about Union: http://sonoraman.proboards107.com/index.cgi?board=generalaction=displaythread=8511 Jim On Jul 1, 2008, at 8:55 PM, wilenzick at bellsouth.net wrote: Can someone provide details on the Edison Idelia that I

[Phono-L] Edison Idelia at Union

2008-07-02 Thread Eric vonGrimmenstein
I read an email stating the Donley's Idelia sold for 31.5K and the Oliphants were asking $32K at Union for there machine. -Original Message- From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of wilenzick at bellsouth.net Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008

[Phono-L] Edison Idelia at Union

2008-07-02 Thread John Maeder
It is the same machine. John Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 06:25:44 -0400 From: evong at vanausdall.com To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Idelia at Union I read an email stating the Donley's Idelia sold for 31.5K and the Oliphants were asking $32K at Union for there

[Phono-L] Edison Idelia at Union

2008-07-02 Thread Eric vonGrimmenstein
No, the Donley's sold a while ago and I don't know if the Oliphants sold their machine. Eric -Original Message- From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of John Maeder Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:11 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject:

[Phono-L] Edison Idelia at Union

2008-07-02 Thread John Maeder
Hi Erich, My understanding from what I heard at Union is that it is indeed the same machine that the Donley's sold. John Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 07:17:15 -0400 From: evong at vanausdall.com To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Idelia at Union No, the Donley's sold a

[Phono-L] Duke Special cylinder session

2008-07-02 Thread Thomas Edison
I went to Champaign IL to Pogo Studioshttp://www.pogostudio.net/aboutpogo.htmand did a most wonderful recording with Duke Special from Ireland. Heis known for his gramophone effects in his recordings. We cut 2 songson cylinder for the up-coming CD. I am not at liberty to say anythingmore

[Phono-L] Edison Idelia at Union

2008-07-02 Thread wilenz...@bellsouth.net
For what it's worth, the eBay listing showed that the Donley's sold their Idelia for $31,100 (not $31,500) to Phonogalerie in Paris. It was a model D2 with O reproducer and outstanding 12 panel MG horn with wood grain finish. Interesting that the Oliphants were selling the same machine at

[Phono-L] Edison Idelia at Union

2008-07-02 Thread Albert
Why would anyone buy a machine for 31,100 and turn around and offer it for $32.000. The financial risk is huge for such a small return. An Idelia is a highly speculative investment at that level, with only appeal to a small elite segment of the hobby. I wouldnt invest $32k in anything that

[Phono-L] Edison Idelia at Union

2008-07-02 Thread wilenz...@bellsouth.net
I guess it is possible that the eBay sale did not go through for some reason, and the owners elected to sell the Idelia for a lower price. If, for example, they sold it for 24K, than to resell for 32K would bring a reasonable profit. Ray - Original Message - From: Albert

[Phono-L] Edison Idelia at Union

2008-07-02 Thread taediso...@aol.com
It's NOT the same machine. The one sold by the Donley's is still in Paris. I saw it there last month. It is D2 with an O reproducer in top-mount carraige. The one at Union was a Model B with a conventional carriage with C reproducer. They are two different machines. Best regards, Rene

[Phono-L] Edison Idelia at Union

2008-07-02 Thread John Maeder
Thanks for clearing that up Rene. I heard that three times at Union and figured that had to be the case. John From: TAEdisonJR at aol.com Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 18:22:19 -0400 To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Idelia at Union It's NOT the same machine. The one

[Phono-L] Duke Special cylinder session

2008-07-02 Thread Jim Nichol
Sounds like you had a lot of fun! Jim On Jul 2, 2008, at 4:45 PM, Thomas Edison wrote: I went to Champaign IL to Pogo Studioshttp://www.pogostudio.net/aboutpogo.htmand did a most wonderful recording with Duke Special from Ireland. Heis known for his gramophone effects in his

[Phono-L] Edison Idelia at Union

2008-07-02 Thread Jim Nichol
Rene, did you see the Ideilia here? -- http://www.phonogalerie.com I didn't know you were in Paris. By the way, the above website has several photos of the big Bergmann tinfoil machine. I assume it was made by Bill Ptacek? Jim Nichol On Jul 2, 2008, at 6:22 PM, taedisonjr at aol.com

[Phono-L] Edison Idelia at Union

2008-07-02 Thread taediso...@aol.com
Yes, I finally visited Phonogalerie. An amazing shop! Too bad the exchange rate is so dismal for US buyers, there are some fine treasures there. Of course, some of those treasures have been shipped over in recent months, precisely because of the exchange rate. A $31K Idelia is only about