Re: [Phono-L] Amberola III saga on EBay - an update with a twist

2013-04-02 Thread chuck richards
Wow, what a zoo!  The mandrel looks all gouged up.
Horrors!  Taken apart, and put back together by someone
who obviously has no clue.  What a shame.
Better than parting it out though, but still evil.

Chuck
>
>
> Original Message 
>From: it...@arvincasas.com
>To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
>Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola III saga on EBay - an update with a
>twist
>Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 19:56:08 -0400
>
>>I believe it's back on eBay?  http://r.ebay.com/THp5oe
>>
>>If this is it, I take it eBay didn't mind her canceling the won part
>>auctions?  
>>
>>
>>On 3/25/13 2:42 PM, "Peter Fraser"  wrote:
>>
>>>Well since it's already disassembled, the buyer will hopefully make
>sure
>>>it gets shipped that way!
>>>
>>>She originally told me (in all caps - i thought canucks are
>polite?) that
>>>she was parting it out because shipping the whole thing was too
>>>complicated. Disassembly has hopefully eased that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>-- Peter
>>>pjfra...@mac.com
>>>
>>>On Mar 25, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Jim Nichol  wrote:
>>>
 I also assume that the phono will be severely damaged in
>shipment, due
to lack of concern of the seller.
 
 Jim Nichol
 
 On Mar 25, 2013, at 1:35 PM, Andrew Baron 
>wrote:
 
> I was afraid of this.  I understood Al's intention in notifying
>the
>seller of what they were doing -- no one could have anticipated
>that
>this seller wouldn't honor the seller/buyer contracts -- but I
>was
>instantly worried that the seller, once alerted to the true
>value,
>would do something underhanded, again.
> 
> Greed unfortunately rarely has boundaries.
> 
> If there's a silver lining, it may be that the machine is put
>back
>together and sold intact.  I can already picture the damaged
>screw
>slots and dings in the wood from the slip of a screwdriver.
> 
> Andrew Baron
> Santa Fe
> 
> On Mar 25, 2013, at 2:37 AM, Anil Menon wrote:
> 
>> I know this has been an emotional and heated issue for many of
>us on
>>this board and on the ATM forum. Some of you know that after
>>discussions with Al, George and Rene, I decided to "save" the
>>Amberola. After several efforts to buy the machine outright and
>>offering and getting rebuffed on a 3,500 dollar offer in my
>second
>>effort, I decided to go after all 7 items. The seller, Leilani
>Gillard
>>from Peachland, BC, said to me what she told others on this
>forum,
>>namely, "if you win all items, I will give you the cabinet and
>>everything else that came with the machine." Well, I won 5 of
>the
>>items, lost the horn to a bidder from Australia, and the lid
>went
>>unsold. I offered to buy the lid and pay for the rest. The
>seller came
>>back with a new "offer" of an additional 500 dollars for the
>cabinet.
>>I replied firmly "no way" and asked her to meet her commitment.
>> 
>> And, well, in the catgegory of a never ending saga, here is a
>new
>>twist on the Amberoa III. Now, she has come back saying that she
>is
>>canceling all of the 7 bids and relisting as entire
>machine...see her
>>"principled" stance below! What a scream! I guess she wants to
>get a
>>higher return than what she got...this is adding stupidity on
>top of
>>greed?
>> 
>> Enjoy the read below:-) Anil
>> 
>> Dear 
>> 
>> I am going to cancel all the auction you won and realist the
>machine
>>as one unite. I hope you understand . I already told the guy who
>won
>>the horn i wasn't going to sell it. I will give you your refund
>back.
>>I hope you understand i am just doing the right thing. It not
>about
>>the money now. Regards Lelani
>> 
>> - peachland250
>> 
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Re: [Phono-L] Amberola III saga on EBay - an update with a twist

2013-04-02 Thread Ron L'Herault
What's with the strange pattern on the mandrel?

Ron L

-Original Message-
From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Arvin Casas
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 7:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola III saga on EBay - an update with a twist

I believe it's back on eBay?  http://r.ebay.com/THp5oe

If this is it, I take it eBay didn't mind her canceling the won part
auctions?  


On 3/25/13 2:42 PM, "Peter Fraser"  wrote:

>Well since it's already disassembled, the buyer will hopefully make 
>sure it gets shipped that way!
>
>She originally told me (in all caps - i thought canucks are polite?) 
>that she was parting it out because shipping the whole thing was too 
>complicated. Disassembly has hopefully eased that.
>
>
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>-- Peter
>pjfra...@mac.com
>
>On Mar 25, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Jim Nichol  wrote:
>
>> I also assume that the phono will be severely damaged in shipment, 
>>due to lack of concern of the seller.
>> 
>> Jim Nichol
>> 
>> On Mar 25, 2013, at 1:35 PM, Andrew Baron  wrote:
>> 
>>> I was afraid of this.  I understood Al's intention in notifying the 
>>>seller of what they were doing -- no one could have anticipated that 
>>>this seller wouldn't honor the seller/buyer contracts -- but I was 
>>>instantly worried that the seller, once alerted to the true value, 
>>>would do something underhanded, again.
>>> 
>>> Greed unfortunately rarely has boundaries.
>>> 
>>> If there's a silver lining, it may be that the machine is put back 
>>>together and sold intact.  I can already picture the damaged screw 
>>>slots and dings in the wood from the slip of a screwdriver.
>>> 
>>> Andrew Baron
>>> Santa Fe
>>> 
>>> On Mar 25, 2013, at 2:37 AM, Anil Menon wrote:
>>> 
 I know this has been an emotional and heated issue for many of us 
on this board and on the ATM forum. Some of you know that after 
discussions with Al, George and Rene, I decided to "save" the 
Amberola. After several efforts to buy the machine outright and 
offering and getting rebuffed on a 3,500 dollar offer in my second 
effort, I decided to go after all 7 items. The seller, Leilani 
Gillard from Peachland, BC, said to me what she told others on this 
forum, namely, "if you win all items, I will give you the cabinet 
and everything else that came with the machine." Well, I won 5 of 
the items, lost the horn to a bidder from Australia, and the lid 
went unsold. I offered to buy the lid and pay for the rest. The 
seller came back with a new "offer" of an additional 500 dollars for the
cabinet.
I replied firmly "no way" and asked her to meet her commitment.
 
 And, well, in the catgegory of a never ending saga, here is a new 
twist on the Amberoa III. Now, she has come back saying that she is 
canceling all of the 7 bids and relisting as entire machine...see 
her "principled" stance below! What a scream! I guess she wants to 
get a higher return than what she got...this is adding stupidity on 
top of greed?
 
 Enjoy the read below:-) Anil
 
 Dear 
 
 I am going to cancel all the auction you won and realist the 
machine as one unite. I hope you understand . I already told the guy 
who won the horn i wasn't going to sell it. I will give you your refund
back.
I hope you understand i am just doing the right thing. It not about 
the money now. Regards Lelani
 
 - peachland250
 
 
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Re: [Phono-L] Amberola III saga on EBay - an update with a twist

2013-04-02 Thread Arvin Casas
I believe it's back on eBay?  http://r.ebay.com/THp5oe

If this is it, I take it eBay didn't mind her canceling the won part
auctions?  


On 3/25/13 2:42 PM, "Peter Fraser"  wrote:

>Well since it's already disassembled, the buyer will hopefully make sure
>it gets shipped that way!
>
>She originally told me (in all caps - i thought canucks are polite?) that
>she was parting it out because shipping the whole thing was too
>complicated. Disassembly has hopefully eased that.
>
>
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>-- Peter
>pjfra...@mac.com
>
>On Mar 25, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Jim Nichol  wrote:
>
>> I also assume that the phono will be severely damaged in shipment, due
>>to lack of concern of the seller.
>> 
>> Jim Nichol
>> 
>> On Mar 25, 2013, at 1:35 PM, Andrew Baron  wrote:
>> 
>>> I was afraid of this.  I understood Al's intention in notifying the
>>>seller of what they were doing -- no one could have anticipated that
>>>this seller wouldn't honor the seller/buyer contracts -- but I was
>>>instantly worried that the seller, once alerted to the true value,
>>>would do something underhanded, again.
>>> 
>>> Greed unfortunately rarely has boundaries.
>>> 
>>> If there's a silver lining, it may be that the machine is put back
>>>together and sold intact.  I can already picture the damaged screw
>>>slots and dings in the wood from the slip of a screwdriver.
>>> 
>>> Andrew Baron
>>> Santa Fe
>>> 
>>> On Mar 25, 2013, at 2:37 AM, Anil Menon wrote:
>>> 
 I know this has been an emotional and heated issue for many of us on
this board and on the ATM forum. Some of you know that after
discussions with Al, George and Rene, I decided to "save" the
Amberola. After several efforts to buy the machine outright and
offering and getting rebuffed on a 3,500 dollar offer in my second
effort, I decided to go after all 7 items. The seller, Leilani Gillard
from Peachland, BC, said to me what she told others on this forum,
namely, "if you win all items, I will give you the cabinet and
everything else that came with the machine." Well, I won 5 of the
items, lost the horn to a bidder from Australia, and the lid went
unsold. I offered to buy the lid and pay for the rest. The seller came
back with a new "offer" of an additional 500 dollars for the cabinet.
I replied firmly "no way" and asked her to meet her commitment.
 
 And, well, in the catgegory of a never ending saga, here is a new
twist on the Amberoa III. Now, she has come back saying that she is
canceling all of the 7 bids and relisting as entire machine...see her
"principled" stance below! What a scream! I guess she wants to get a
higher return than what she got...this is adding stupidity on top of
greed?
 
 Enjoy the read below:-) Anil
 
 Dear 
 
 I am going to cancel all the auction you won and realist the machine
as one unite. I hope you understand . I already told the guy who won
the horn i wasn't going to sell it. I will give you your refund back.
I hope you understand i am just doing the right thing. It not about
the money now. Regards Lelani
 
 - peachland250
 
 
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[Phono-L] Edison standard Bed plate right carriage rod loop repair

2013-04-02 Thread Bill Taney
Is it at all possible to repair a bed plate that then eyelet for the carriage 
rod is broken. The bedplate is in otherwise good condition? Or is it just 
ruined. 

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