Re: [Phono-L] Sonora bombe and record folders

[Ron L'Herault via Phono-L]

Not having access to the SEM is the only downside to retirement.

 

Ron L

 

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http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewtopic.php?f=2
 &t=17922&sid=99f228263f21941324d810ce508e0ea4&start=50



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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora bombe and record folders
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
CC: steve_nor...@msn.com
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 02:31:10 +

Many of the points in the needle bars like the Cheney ones are sapphires and
not diamonds.  So far I have not seen a point mounted in a shank that was
not worn or broken.  95% of the original Edison diamonds I have examined are
broken, worn, or both.  

 

This is a good article, it shows worn and broken diamonds and explains well.


 

I have found that the Columbia ball stylus mounted in a bar will play the
Pathe records.  I ordered 5 diamonds made for use in a shank, but
unfortunately they cut them too short.  If there is interest I could have
more made.

 

Steve Medved



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From: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora bombe and record folders
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 03:23:34 +

Get in touch with George Vollema, Great Lakes Antique Phonographs.  He's
great to do business with and has a huge stock of parts.  Having said that,
if George can't help, I once made a Pathe stylus out of a bit of Dental
technology, a "Pindex Pin" (ask your local dentist).  I drilled a very small
hole in the end and glued in a sapphire cylinder stylus such as used on
Columbia machines. It was ball shaped.   And I'll bet Steve Medved could
make something with one of the new Edison DD styli he is having made here in
the states.  George would be the easier way to go first though.

 

Ron L

 

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Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 10:39 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora bombe and record folders

 

Thanks, Ron. Any idea where I might find one? I'd like to pick up a Pathe
ball stylus, too -- I've never has any luck finding either on ebay.

 

Ric



 Original message 
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Date: 10/16/2015 10:18 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: 'Antique Phonograph List'  
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora bombe and record folders 

You would need an Edison style diamond which Sonora probably sold.

 

Ron L

 

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Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 8:55 PM
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora bombe and record folders

 

One more question:  Like most wooden-arm Sonoras, this one comes with two
reproducers, one for lateral-cut records, the other, it says, for
vertical-cut and diamond discs.  Could these really play diamond discs?  If
so, what kind of stylus would you need, and where would you get one?

  _  

From: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora bombe and record folders
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 23:47:23 +

I posted this query last month about restoring the record filing system in a
Sonora Elite phonograph.  Since then, I have learned that Sonora actually
called it an "envelope filing system," and that I have everything I need,
EXCEPT for some sort of little metal brackets (a pair, to be precise) that
secure the rods to the outside of the wooden framework for the filing
system.  If you click on this link, scroll down to the third picture and
look closely, you can sort of see what I'm talking about:

http://www.justanswer.com/antiques/5nb93-glenda-i-question-sonora-phonograph
-recently.html#re.v/149/
 

Does anyone happen to have a pair of these they'd be willing to sell me, or
at the very least a clearer photo of them?  I'd appreciate any help.

Thanks again,

Ric
uws...@gmail.com




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Subject: [Phono-L] Sonora bombe and record folders
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Re: [Phono-L] 1A

[Ron L'Herault via Phono-L]

Great!  Yes.

 

Ron

 

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Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 11:41 PM
To: Ron L'Herault via Phono-L
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Subject: [Phono-L] 1A

 

I got the screws and clips. Maybe next week we can finish it.

 

-Barry

 

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[Phono-L] 1A

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I got the screws and clips. Maybe next week we can finish it.
-Barry

Re: [Phono-L] Sonora bombe and record folders

[SN Medved via Phono-L]

http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=17922&sid=99f228263f21941324d810ce508e0ea4&start=50

From: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora bombe and record folders
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
CC: steve_nor...@msn.com
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 02:31:10 +




Many of the points in the needle bars like the Cheney ones are sapphires and 
not diamonds.  So far I have not seen a point mounted in a shank that was not 
worn or broken.  95% of the original Edison diamonds I have examined are 
broken, worn, or both.
This is a good article, it shows worn and broken diamonds and explains well.
I have found that the Columbia ball stylus mounted in a bar will play the Pathe 
records.  I ordered 5 diamonds made for use in a shank, but unfortunately they 
cut them too short.  If there is interest I could have more made.
Steve Medved

From: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora bombe and record folders
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 03:23:34 +

Get in touch with George Vollema, Great Lakes Antique Phonographs.  He's great 
to do business with and has a huge stock of parts.  Having said that, if George 
can't help, I once made a Pathe stylus out of a bit of Dental technology, a 
"Pindex Pin" (ask your local dentist).  I drilled a very small hole in the end 
and glued in a sapphire cylinder stylus such as used on Columbia machines. It 
was ball shaped.   And I'll bet Steve Medved could make something with one of 
the new Edison DD styli he is having made here in the states.  George would be 
the easier way to go first though. Ron L From: Antique Phonograph List 
[mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org]
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 10:39 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora bombe and record folders Thanks, Ron. Any idea 
where I might find one? I'd like to pick up a Pathe ball stylus, too -- I've 
never has any luck finding either on ebay. Ric

 Original message 
From: Antique Phonograph List 
Date: 10/16/2015 10:18 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: 'Antique Phonograph List' 
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora bombe and record folders You would need an Edison 
style diamond which Sonora probably sold. Ron L From: Antique Phonograph List 
[mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org]
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 8:55 PM
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora bombe and record folders One more question:  Like 
most wooden-arm Sonoras, this one comes with two reproducers, one for 
lateral-cut records, the other, it says, for vertical-cut and diamond discs.  
Could these really play diamond discs?  If so, what kind of stylus would you 
need, and where would you get one?From: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora bombe and record folders
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 23:47:23 +I posted this query last month about 
restoring the record filing system in a Sonora Elite phonograph.  Since then, I 
have learned that Sonora actually called it an "envelope filing system," and 
that I have everything I need, EXCEPT for some sort of little metal brackets (a 
pair, to be precise) that secure the rods to the outside of the wooden 
framework for the filing system.  If you click on this link, scroll down to the 
third picture and look closely, you can sort of see what I'm talking about:

http://www.justanswer.com/antiques/5nb93-glenda-i-question-sonora-phonograph-recently.html#re.v/149/

Does anyone happen to have a pair of these they'd be willing to sell me, or at 
the very least a clearer photo of them?  I'd appreciate any help.

Thanks again,

Ric
uws...@gmail.com



From: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: [Phono-L] Sonora bombe and record folders
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2015 18:02:54 +I am in the process of restoring a nice 
Sonora phonograph in a mahogany bombe cabinet; I found it years ago at an 
estate sale, and it's taken me a while to get around to it.  Like many Sonoras, 
the paper record folders down below had been removed, presumably because they 
had disintegrated, as they typically do.  Miraculously, some years later I 
found another Sonora -- the same model -- with a trashed cabinet (no grille, 
broken legs, etc.) but a full set of record folders in excellent condition.  
Unfortunately, so much time has passed that I can no longer remember how to 
install the folders in the cabinet.  I found the attached photo online of the 
identical phonograph, and it seems like the rods (there are four of them, each 
half the width of the wooden bracket with the vertical slats) might slide into 
some holes in the bottom of the bracket, but I can't tell for sure.  Has 
anybody dealt with this before?  If so, could you possibly offer me some 
instructions?

Also, I'm not sure which model this is; it came with a booklet identifying it 
as an Elite, but all the photos online of Sonora Elites show a different, 
smaller model.  (The one with what looks like a capital "H" in the center of 
the grille.)  I have checked the paper l

Re: [Phono-L] Sonora bombe and record folders

[SN Medved via Phono-L]

Many of the points in the needle bars like the Cheney ones are sapphires and 
not diamonds.  So far I have not seen a point mounted in a shank that was not 
worn or broken.  95% of the original Edison diamonds I have examined are 
broken, worn, or both.
This is a good article, it shows worn and broken diamonds and explains well.
I have found that the Columbia ball stylus mounted in a bar will play the Pathe 
records.  I ordered 5 diamonds made for use in a shank, but unfortunately they 
cut them too short.  If there is interest I could have more made.
Steve Medved

From: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora bombe and record folders
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 03:23:34 +

Get in touch with George Vollema, Great Lakes Antique Phonographs.  He's great 
to do business with and has a huge stock of parts.  Having said that, if George 
can't help, I once made a Pathe stylus out of a bit of Dental technology, a 
"Pindex Pin" (ask your local dentist).  I drilled a very small hole in the end 
and glued in a sapphire cylinder stylus such as used on Columbia machines. It 
was ball shaped.   And I'll bet Steve Medved could make something with one of 
the new Edison DD styli he is having made here in the states.  George would be 
the easier way to go first though. Ron L From: Antique Phonograph List 
[mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org]
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 10:39 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora bombe and record folders Thanks, Ron. Any idea 
where I might find one? I'd like to pick up a Pathe ball stylus, too -- I've 
never has any luck finding either on ebay. Ric

 Original message 
From: Antique Phonograph List 
Date: 10/16/2015 10:18 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: 'Antique Phonograph List' 
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora bombe and record folders You would need an Edison 
style diamond which Sonora probably sold. Ron L From: Antique Phonograph List 
[mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org]
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 8:55 PM
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora bombe and record folders One more question:  Like 
most wooden-arm Sonoras, this one comes with two reproducers, one for 
lateral-cut records, the other, it says, for vertical-cut and diamond discs.  
Could these really play diamond discs?  If so, what kind of stylus would you 
need, and where would you get one?From: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora bombe and record folders
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 23:47:23 +I posted this query last month about 
restoring the record filing system in a Sonora Elite phonograph.  Since then, I 
have learned that Sonora actually called it an "envelope filing system," and 
that I have everything I need, EXCEPT for some sort of little metal brackets (a 
pair, to be precise) that secure the rods to the outside of the wooden 
framework for the filing system.  If you click on this link, scroll down to the 
third picture and look closely, you can sort of see what I'm talking about:

http://www.justanswer.com/antiques/5nb93-glenda-i-question-sonora-phonograph-recently.html#re.v/149/

Does anyone happen to have a pair of these they'd be willing to sell me, or at 
the very least a clearer photo of them?  I'd appreciate any help.

Thanks again,

Ric
uws...@gmail.com



From: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: [Phono-L] Sonora bombe and record folders
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2015 18:02:54 +I am in the process of restoring a nice 
Sonora phonograph in a mahogany bombe cabinet; I found it years ago at an 
estate sale, and it's taken me a while to get around to it.  Like many Sonoras, 
the paper record folders down below had been removed, presumably because they 
had disintegrated, as they typically do.  Miraculously, some years later I 
found another Sonora -- the same model -- with a trashed cabinet (no grille, 
broken legs, etc.) but a full set of record folders in excellent condition.  
Unfortunately, so much time has passed that I can no longer remember how to 
install the folders in the cabinet.  I found the attached photo online of the 
identical phonograph, and it seems like the rods (there are four of them, each 
half the width of the wooden bracket with the vertical slats) might slide into 
some holes in the bottom of the bracket, but I can't tell for sure.  Has 
anybody dealt with this before?  If so, could you possibly offer me some 
instructions?

Also, I'm not sure which model this is; it came with a booklet identifying it 
as an Elite, but all the photos online of Sonora Elites show a different, 
smaller model.  (The one with what looks like a capital "H" in the center of 
the grille.)  I have checked the paper label on the underside of the drawer, 
and it doesn't say -- it's just a list of patents.

Finally, if by some chance anyone out there has a parts machine, please let me 
know.  Thanks!   

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