Re: [Phono-L] Little Wonder Phono problems

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> On May 7, 2019, at 8:33 PM, Jim Nichol via Phono-L  
> wrote:
> 
> Ron, I doubt you and Mike are the only people left on this list. But I’ve 
> only run into problems like yours twice. One was a Busy Bee disc phono. I did 
> find a problem with binding in the governor gearing, but I think a weak 
> spring was the real problem. Also, my Edison Opera stopped working after 
> traveling to Chicago. It was easily fixed when I found that governor shaft 
> wouldn’t turn. I loosened a set screw and allowed a little play in the 
> governor shaft, and all was well.
> 
> Jim Nichol
> 
>> On May 7, 2019, at 9:43 PM, Ron L'Herault via Phono-L  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The old spring was 5/8 by .018.   I’ve just installed a 5/8 by .022  which 
>> seems to be about the same length, around 8 5eet I believe.  It’s a NOS 
>> Honest Quaker (I actually have two of these!).  It may be a bit better.  I 
>> think I’m going to try a counter weight on the “tone arm” to lighten the 
>> reproduce a bit.  That may let it play through an 8” record.   
>>  
>> Looks like you and I are the only ones on the oldcrank phonograph list.  NO 
>> one else commented.
>>  
>>  
>> Ron L
>>  
>> From: Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Mike Tucker 
>> via Phono-L
>> Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2019 6:13 PM
>> To: 'Antique Phonograph List'
>> Cc: mtucker1...@gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Little Wonder Phono problems
>>  
>> Ron,
>>  
>> What is the width of the spring?
>>  
>> The Windsor listing gives the following for small toy motors (Genola, Baby 
>> Grand,Carryola Cub, Pei-o-phone, Artone, Featherweight etc) with pear shape 
>> holes as ½” x .022 x 8feet.
>>  
>> For old type toy motors the dimensions are 9/16” x .025 x 10 feet.
>>  
>> I have no specific listing for the Little Wonder.
>>  
>> Best wishes,
>>  
>> Mike Tucker
>>  
>> From: Phono-L  On Behalf Of Ron L'Herault via 
>> Phono-L
>> Sent: Sunday, 5 May 2019 6:29 AM
>> To: phonol...@yahoogroups.com; 'Antique Phonograph List' 
>> 
>> Cc: Ron L'Herault 
>> Subject: [Phono-L] Little Wonder Phono problems
>>  
>> I’ve been sent a LW phono with a host of small problems.  This is a Vertical 
>> only machine that according to the lit. should use a sapphire ball.   The 
>> governor springs were wrong.  I’ve got two with Columbia weights that are 
>> pretty close.  Had to make a lower bearing for the governor.  It’s  tad 
>> sloppy but rotational speed seems fairly consistent until the record slows 
>> half way into the side.   I suspect the spring is the wrong size (too long 
>> and maybe too thick).  S,  what size should the spring be?  There is a 
>> dish shaped washer on the winding gear side of the spring. Should the 
>> upward curve of the dish be towards the spring or towards the winding gear?  
>> Should the spring be exposed on its other end or was there another dish or 
>> flat disk there?Anybody know?  And does anyone know the actual length, 
>> width, thickness of the gov. springs?
>>  
>> Thanks, 
>>  
>> Ron L
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Re: [Phono-L] Little Wonder Phono problems

[Jim Nichol via Phono-L]

Ron, I doubt you and Mike are the only people left on this list. But I’ve only 
run into problems like yours twice. One was a Busy Bee disc phono. I did find a 
problem with binding in the governor gearing, but I think a weak spring was the 
real problem. Also, my Edison Opera stopped working after traveling to Chicago. 
It was easily fixed when I found that governor shaft wouldn’t turn. I loosened 
a set screw and allowed a little play in the governor shaft, and all was well.

Jim Nichol

> On May 7, 2019, at 9:43 PM, Ron L'Herault via Phono-L  
> wrote:
> 
> The old spring was 5/8 by .018.   I’ve just installed a 5/8 by .022  which 
> seems to be about the same length, around 8 5eet I believe.  It’s a NOS 
> Honest Quaker (I actually have two of these!).  It may be a bit better.  I 
> think I’m going to try a counter weight on the “tone arm” to lighten the 
> reproduce a bit.  That may let it play through an 8” record.   
>  
> Looks like you and I are the only ones on the oldcrank phonograph list.  NO 
> one else commented.
>  
>  
> Ron L
>  
> From: Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org 
> ] On Behalf Of Mike Tucker via Phono-L
> Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2019 6:13 PM
> To: 'Antique Phonograph List'
> Cc: mtucker1...@gmail.com 
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Little Wonder Phono problems
>  
> Ron,
>  
> What is the width of the spring?
>  
> The Windsor listing gives the following for small toy motors (Genola, Baby 
> Grand,Carryola Cub, Pei-o-phone, Artone, Featherweight etc) with pear shape 
> holes as ½” x .022 x 8feet.
>  
> For old type toy motors the dimensions are 9/16” x .025 x 10 feet.
>  
> I have no specific listing for the Little Wonder.
>  
> Best wishes,
>  
> Mike Tucker
>  
> From: Phono-L  > On Behalf Of Ron L'Herault via Phono-L
> Sent: Sunday, 5 May 2019 6:29 AM
> To: phonol...@yahoogroups.com ; 'Antique 
> Phonograph List' mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org>>
> Cc: Ron L'Herault mailto:lhera...@verizon.net>>
> Subject: [Phono-L] Little Wonder Phono problems
>  
> I’ve been sent a LW phono with a host of small problems.  This is a Vertical 
> only machine that according to the lit. should use a sapphire ball.   The 
> governor springs were wrong.  I’ve got two with Columbia weights that are 
> pretty close.  Had to make a lower bearing for the governor.  It’s  tad 
> sloppy but rotational speed seems fairly consistent until the record slows 
> half way into the side.   I suspect the spring is the wrong size (too long 
> and maybe too thick).  S,  what size should the spring be?  There is a 
> dish shaped washer on the winding gear side of the spring. Should the 
> upward curve of the dish be towards the spring or towards the winding gear?  
> Should the spring be exposed on its other end or was there another dish or 
> flat disk there?Anybody know?  And does anyone know the actual length, 
> width, thickness of the gov. springs?
>  
> Thanks, 
>  
> Ron L
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Re: [Phono-L] Little Wonder Phono problems

[Ron L'Herault via Phono-L]

The old spring was 5/8 by .018.   I’ve just installed a 5/8 by .022  which
seems to be about the same length, around 8 5eet I believe.  It’s a NOS
Honest Quaker (I actually have two of these!).  It may be a bit better.  I
think I’m going to try a counter weight on the “tone arm” to lighten the
reproduce a bit.  That may let it play through an 8” record.   

 

Looks like you and I are the only ones on the oldcrank phonograph list.  NO
one else commented.

 

 

Ron L

 

From: Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Mike Tucker
via Phono-L
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2019 6:13 PM
To: 'Antique Phonograph List'
Cc: mtucker1...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Little Wonder Phono problems

 

Ron,

 

What is the width of the spring?

 

The Windsor listing gives the following for small toy motors (Genola, Baby
Grand,Carryola Cub, Pei-o-phone, Artone, Featherweight etc) with pear shape
holes as ½” x .022 x 8feet.

 

For old type toy motors the dimensions are 9/16” x .025 x 10 feet.

 

I have no specific listing for the Little Wonder.

 

Best wishes,

 

Mike Tucker

 

From: Phono-L  On Behalf Of Ron L'Herault via
Phono-L
Sent: Sunday, 5 May 2019 6:29 AM
To: phonol...@yahoogroups.com; 'Antique Phonograph List'

Cc: Ron L'Herault 
Subject: [Phono-L] Little Wonder Phono problems

 

I’ve been sent a LW phono with a host of small problems.  This is a Vertical
only machine that according to the lit. should use a sapphire ball.   The
governor springs were wrong.  I’ve got two with Columbia weights that are
pretty close.  Had to make a lower bearing for the governor.  It’s  tad
sloppy but rotational speed seems fairly consistent until the record slows
half way into the side.   I suspect the spring is the wrong size (too long
and maybe too thick).  S,  what size should the spring be?  There is a
dish shaped washer on the winding gear side of the spring. Should the
upward curve of the dish be towards the spring or towards the winding gear?
Should the spring be exposed on its other end or was there another dish or
flat disk there?Anybody know?  And does anyone know the actual length,
width, thickness of the gov. springs?

 

Thanks, 

 

Ron L

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