Re: [Phono-L] Edison E
Actually, I have an Edison Standard on which the ID tag was originally marked "D" and the "D" was crossed out and the tag marked "E". It is a 2/4 minute machine. The Edison factory was apparently notorious for using up old stock in this way. Art Heller In a message dated 4/13/2017 8:29:14 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, phono-l@oldcrank.org writes: It states on the ID plate it's an E. On Apr 13, 2017 8:43 PM, "Bob via Phono-L" wrote: Where is it located? Thanks In a message dated 4/13/2017 9:36:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, phono-l@oldcrank.org writes: It's probably a Model D Standard. These were 2.4 min. The model E was strictly a 4 min. machine. Harvey Kravitz From: Jamie Kelly via Phono-L To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Cc: Jamie Kelly Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison E I’d love to get the cylinder cabinet but tricky to get to Australia. Jamie From: Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-bounces@phono-l-boun] On Behalf Of Randy Larson via Phono-L Sent: Friday, 14 April 2017 10:27 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Cc: Randy Larson Subject: [Phono-L] Edison E I'm selling this for a lady that recently lost her house in a fire with no insurance. This was in storage and spared. It's an Standard E . It has the 2&4 conversion and a new H reproducer. The motor was cleaned and new spring installed in 2004. The base of the Cygnet horn has been restored. This comes with a cylinder cabinet, all in excellent condition (except for the upper half of the horn). All proceeds go to helping this lady get back on her feet. The chrome Cygnet horn support is also new. It plays beautifully. I can send more pics upon request. A phono friend thought it would go between 7 to 900 dollars. Let me know if interested. Thanks Randy Larson (http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/P4wB1rrcBIJHDHcNi5BSNw~~/AABF2wA~/RgRa0XN1P0EIACx3UJWMg3NXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQdoZWxsb181YAw1Mi4zOS41MS4xODRCCgAA9T_wWOC0HuNSGGFyY2hpdmVAbWFpbC1hcmNoaXZlLmNvbQlRBABElmh0dHA6Ly9wb3N0LnNwbWFpbHRlY2huLmNvbS9mL2EvZnJNSlVQNnAxeUpkeHg0UEZOTUdmQX5-L0FBQkYyd0F-L1JnUmEwV2QyUDBFSUFDeDNVQWlNMlFkWEEzTndZMWdFQUFBQUFGa0djMmhoY21Wa1lRZG9aV3hzYjE4MVlBdzFNaTR6T1M0MU1TNHhPRFJDQ2dBQUcCe30~ 9jPwWLFLvl5SD2FwaDQ5OTBAYW9sLmNvbQlRBACEZgRodHRwOi8vcG9zdC5zcG1haWx0ZWNo bi5jb20vZi9hL1JkTE1hM29iR3VFT1R0cGFva1BrWWd-fi9BQUJGMndBfi9SZ1JhMFZ5eFAwRUlB Q3gzVUFpTHZDZFhBM053WTFnRUFBQUFBRmtHYzJoaGNtVmtZUWRvWld4c2IxODFZQXcxTWk0ek9T NDFNUzR4T0RSQ0NnQUFNU253V0xGTHhmbFNGR3hoY25OdmJuUmhiR3RBWjIxaGFXd3VZMjl0Q1ZF RUFBQUFBSVN1QW1oMGRIQTZMeTl3YjNOMExuTndiV0ZwYkhSbFkyaHVMbU52YlM5bUwyRXZUamRZ WlZkWU4yTXhNazlxZFc1d2RsQmtRVEp2ZDM1LUwwRkJRa1l5ZDBGLUwxSm5VbUV3Vm5OUFVEQkZT VUZEZUROVlFXbE1hSGRvV0VFelRuZFpNV2RGUVVGQlFVRkdhMGRqTW1ob1kyMVdhMWxSWkc5YVYz aHpZakU0TVZsQk1ERk5hVFI2VG5rMGVFMVVhM1ZOVkdzeVVXZHZRVUZKTkc0NFJtbDRVemw1TkZW bk1XcE9WMXBvWW10Q2FHSXlkM1ZaTWpsMFExWkZSVUZCUVVGQlNWSnhRVmRvTUdSSVFUWk1lVGwz WWpOT01FeHVUbmRpVjBad1lraFNiRmt5YUhWTWJVNTJZbE01YlV3eVJYWlNNRTE1VmpCWk1XVnNR VEJoYXpWWVkxWmFRazlYTVRaaWJtc3lXak0xTFV3d1JrSlJhMWw1WkRCR0xVd3hTbTVWYlVWM1Zt MWpNVlZFUWtaVFZVWkVaVVJPVmxGWGJFMVRXRkpUVjBWRmVs UnVaRnBOVjJSR1VWVkdRbEZWUmtkaE1HUnFUVzFvYjFreU1WZGhNV3hTV2tjNVlWWXphSHBaYWtVMFRWWnNRbVI2Ums1aFZGSTJWREZO TUUxVk1WUk9TR2hRVWtaS1JGRXlaRUpSV0ZaVVZraGtXRlJGV2sxWlYyODFWVEJaZVdGSGFHcGli SEJ6V2xaa01HVldiRmxYYmtKclUwaENRbHBXWkVkaU1rbDVUMGhXV2sxcWJEQlJNVnBHVWxWR1Fs RlZSa0pTVmtveVdWVm9VMDFIVGtsVVZGcE5aVlJyZWxwRVRtcGtWbXhaVjIxb2FrMHhSakZYVkVr MVpFVjNlbFJ1UW1GbFZFWnpXV3hrUjJOSFNrVlBWRVpyVW5wR2JWbHNaRmRoTWtaWlZtNVNVVll4 V2pCWFZtUnpZekJ3ZFZacVFtbFdhbXcyV1dwT1YyVldhM2xXVkd4cFVqSjRNVmxZYkdGTlYxSklU VmRhV2sxcldqQlpNR1JIWTBadmVVNUViR3BOYlhoMVZFWmtWMlJHYkZoaVNFNUxZbXhaZDFsc1dU VmhiVWw1VGxSQ1lWWjZWWGRWUm1SWFpFWnNXR0pJVGxwTmJtaDNWMnhqTVUxR1NqTlRhbVJ0VlZn MUxWSjNTamRtVVg1LVJ3SjdmUX5-RwJ7fQ~~) Virus-free. _www.avast.com_ (http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/7PnhttNdC9UBJIBFD77cdg~~/AABF2wA~/RgRa0XN1P0EIACx3UJWMg3NXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQdoZWxsb181YAw1Mi4zOS41MS4xODRCCgAA9T_wWOC0HuNSGGFyY2hpdmVAbWFpbC1hcmNoaXZlLmNvbQlRBABEVGh0dHA6Ly9wb3N0LnNwbWFpbHRlY2huLmNvbS9mL2EvZnJNSlVQNnAxeUpkeHg0UEZOTUdmQX5-L0FBQkYyd0F-L1JnUmEwV2QyUDBFSUFDeDNVQUcCe30~ iM2QdXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQdoZWxsb181YAw1Mi4zOS41MS4xODRCCgAA9jPwWLFLvl 5SD2FwaDQ5OTBAYW9sLmNvbQlRBACEZgRodHRwOi8vcG9zdC5zcG1haWx0ZWNobi5jb20vZi 9hL1JkTE1hM29iR3VFT1R0cGFva1BrWWd-fi9BQUJGMndBfi9SZ1JhMFZ5eFAwRUlBQ3gzVUFpTH ZDZFhBM053WTFnRUFBQUFBRmtHYzJoaGNtVmtZUWRvWld4c2IxODFZQXcxTWk0ek9TNDFNUzR4T0 RSQ0NnQUFNU253V0xGTHhmbFNGR3hoY25OdmJuUmhiR3RBWjIxaGFXd3VZMjl0Q1ZFRUFBQUFBSV N1QW1oMGRIQTZMeTl3YjNOMExuTndiV0ZwYkhSbFkyaHVMbU52YlM5bUwyRXZUamRZWlZkWU4yTX hNazlxZFc1d2RsQmtRVEp2ZDM1LUwwRkJRa1l5ZDBGLUwxSm5VbUV3Vm5OUFVEQkZTVUZEZUROVl FXbE1hSGRvV0VFelRuZFpNV2RGUVVGQlFVRkdhMGRqTW1ob1kyMVdhMWxSWkc5YVYzaHpZakU0TV ZsQk1ERk5hVFI2VG5rMGVFMVVhM1ZOVkdzeVVXZHZRVUZKTkc0NFJtbDRVemw1TkZWbk1XcE9WMX BvWW10Q2FHSXlkM1ZaTWpsMFExWkZSVUZCUVVGQlNWSnhRVmRvTUdSS
Re: [Phono-L] Edison E
I re-looked at my standard with the changed ID tag. It now appears that the letter which looked like an "E"on further inspection is actually an "F". The machine has a small top-mount reproducer ring. This fits with the 2/4 gearing and cygnet horn. One wonders if original buyers were ever sophisticated enough to recognize the differences between models with all the factory changes. However, I would assume they would have known what they wanted given the options of 2 and 4 minute reproduction. Art Heller In a message dated 4/13/2017 10:09:50 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, phono-l@oldcrank.org writes: The picture that Randy posted looks identical to the Model F pictured in the Frow book. It says the E had a side mount carriage arm with large opening for a Model N reproducer, whereas the F had top mount carriage arm with a small opening for C, H, R, or S reproducers. It says the Model E had a straight paneled horn with a front mount crane, whereas the Model F had a cygnet horn with a back mount crane bracket. Also, the Standard Models D, E, and F all had both 2 and 4 minute gearing. HOWEVER, on the Model E, the mechanism was blocked to keep it in 4-minute mode all the time. If Randy found it was stuck in 4-minute mode, this would support the E nameplate. Otherwise, everything else points to a Model F. Of course, you never know what really happened at the Edison factory. Jim Nichol On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:29 PM, harvey kravitz via Phono-L wrote: It's probably a Model D Standard. These were 2.4 min. The model E was strictly a 4 min. machine. Harvey Kravitz From: Jamie Kelly via Phono-L To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Cc: Jamie Kelly Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison E I’d love to get the cylinder cabinet but tricky to get to Australia. Jamie From: Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Randy Larson via Phono-L Sent: Friday, 14 April 2017 10:27 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Cc: Randy Larson Subject: [Phono-L] Edison E I'm selling this for a lady that recently lost her house in a fire with no insurance. This was in storage and spared. It's an Standard E . It has the 2&4 conversion and a new H reproducer. The motor was cleaned and new spring installed in 2004. The base of the Cygnet horn has been restored. This comes with a cylinder cabinet, all in excellent condition (except for the upper half of the horn). All proceeds go to helping this lady get back on her feet. Thechrome Cygnet horn support is also new. It plays beautifully. I can send more pics upon request. A phono friend thought it would go between 7 to 900 dollars. Let me know if interested. Thanks Randy Larson (http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/YpdY-VufR6Fi56PhE5f1vw~~/AABF2wA~/RgRa0YbMP0EIACx3UWEPZMFXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQdoZWxsb181YA0zNS4xNjIuMTcyLjcwQgoAAExT8Fh5qJqXUhhhcmNoaXZlQG1haWwtYXJjaGl2ZS5jb20JUQQARJZodHRwOi8vcG9zdC5zcG1haWx0ZWNobi5jb20vZi9hLzNxNGl6S3VhUmV3X3hSdTJneENlQXd-fi9BQUJGMndBfi9SZ1JhMFg4S1AwRUlBQ3gzVUFpUWVEQlhBM053WTFnRUFBQUFBRmtHYzJoaGNtVmtZUWRvWld4c2IxODFZQXcxTWk0ek9TNDFNUzR4T0RSQ0NnQUFHAnt9 iUvwWLFLL69SD2FwaDQ5OTBAYW9sLmNvbQlRBACEsgJodHRwOi8vcG9zdC5zcG1haWx0ZWNo bi5jb20vZi9hL1kteE1iOV9reXQwR0VMcnBjT0lSQVF-fi9BQUJGMndBfi9SZ1JhMFZzTVAwRUlB Q3gzVUFpTGh0TlhBM053WTFnRUFBQUFBRmtHYzJoaGNtVmtZUWRvWld4c2IxODFZQTAxTWk0ek55 NHhNVGt1TVRrMlFnb0FBSXduOEZpeFMzTzRVaEJxYm1samFHOXNRR1oxYzJVdWJtVjBDVkVFQUFB QUFJUnFBV2gwZEhBNkx5OXdiM04wTG5Od2JXRnBiSFJsWTJodUxtTnZiUzltTDJFdlIwTXlWMFkx ZWxBMGFrNVhjVlpCT1cxNmJuazJaMzUtTDBGQlFrWXlkMEYtTDFKblVtRXdWbWMxVURCRlNVRkRl RE5WUVdsTVNYUlNXRUV6VG5kWk1XZEZRVUZCUVVGR2EwZGpNbWhvWTIxV2ExbFJaRzlhVjNoellq RTRNVmxCZHpGTmFUUjZUMU0wTVUxVE5IaFBSRkpEUTJkQlFYVlRWSGRYVEVaTVlXbzVVMFl5YUdo amJscHNaVmQwZVZsWVduQmtTSEJCWlZkR2IySXlPSFZaTWpsMFExWkZSVUZCUVVGQlJWSjJZVWhT TUdOSVRUWk1lVGt6WkROamRWbFlXbWhqTTFGMVdUSTVkRXd6VG5CYWVURnNZbGRHY0dKRU9URmtS ekZtWWxkV2EyRllWblJRVjFaMFdWZHNjMHB1VmpCaVZqbDZZak5XZVZreVZUbGlSMngxWVhsYU1X UkhNV1paTWtaMFkwZEdjRm95TkRsak1teHVURmRXZEZsWGJITktibFl3WWxZNWFtSXlOVEJhVnpV d1VGZFdkRmxYYkhOWk1uaHdXbGMxTUZKM1NqZG1VWDUtUndKN2ZRfn5HAnt9) Virus-free. _www.avast.com_ (http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/22Lio_jRNEE2BCoUXAZ0mw~~/AABF2wA~/RgRa0YbMP0EIACx3UWEPZMFXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQdoZWxsb181YA0zNS4xNjIuMTcyLjcwQgoAAExT8Fh5qJqXUhhhcmNoaXZlQG1haWwtYXJjaGl2ZS5jb20JUQQARIlodHRwOi8vcG9zdC5zcG1haWx0ZWNobi5jb20vZi9hLzNxNGl6S3VhUmV3X3hSdTJneENlQXd-fi9BQUJGMndBfi9SZ1JhMFg4S1AwRUlBQ3gzVUFpUWVEQlhBM053WTFnRUFBQUFBRmtHYzJoaGNtVmtZUWRvWld4c2IxODFZQXcxTWk0ek9TNEcCe30~ 1MS4xODRCCgAAiUvwWLFLL69SD2FwaDQ5OTBAYW9sLmNvbQlRBACEsgJodHRwOi8vcG9zdC5 zcG1haWx0ZWNobi5jb20vZi9hL1kteE1iOV9reXQwR0VMcnBjT0lSQVF-fi9BQUJGMndBfi9SZ1J hMFZzTVAwRUlBQ3gzVUFpTGh0TlhBM053WTFnRUFBQUFBRmtHYzJoaGNtVmtZUWRvWld4c2IxODF ZQTAxTWk0ek55NHhNVGt1TVRrMlFnb0FBSXduOEZpeFMzTzRVaEJxYm1samFHOXNRR1oxYzJVdWJ tVjBDVkVFQUFBQUFJUnFBV2