Re: [Phono-L] C-4 DD stylus

[Ron L'Herault via Phono-L]

This thing has a round shaft, no more than 1/16th" and a flat made into it to 
assure that it is in the proper position.   Another possibility, advanced by a 
friend who is very Edison-savvy, is that the stylus is for a school type 
voicewriter to play back blue amberol educational cylinders.  They have the 
same tpi as a DD, I believe.

Ron L

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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] C-4 DD stylus

Ron- I think the electric pick up Edison reproducers have a stylus cross bar 
that has a hole in the center of it to accept a steel needle. Charlie

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 Could the stylus in the
 attached image be for an Edison C-4 to allow it to play  Diamond Discs?
  Ron
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Re: [Phono-L] C-4 DD stylus

[charles smith via Phono-L]

Ron- I think the electric pick up Edison reproducers have a stylus cross bar 
that has a hole in the center of it to accept a steel needle. Charlie 

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 Could the stylus in the
 attached image be for an Edison C-4 to allow it to play
 Diamond Discs?
  Ron
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Re: [Phono-L] C-4 DD stylus

[Peter Fraser via Phono-L]

http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewtopic.php?f=11=20944=10

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> On Feb 16, 2018, at 4:52 PM, Ron L'Herault via Phono-L <phono-l@oldcrank.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> Was told that it is an Edison product.  The little jar it is in has the 
> number6927 on it.
>  
> Ron L
>  
> From: Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Greg Bogantz 
> via Phono-L
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 5:56 PM
> To: Ron L'Herault via Phono-L
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> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] C-4 DD stylus
>  
> I don't think that playing DDs is what this stylus was intended to do.  
> To be effective for playing vertical cut discs with a lateral pickup, the 
> stylus assembly has to have the tip considerably offset to the side relative 
> to the line of the shank.  This allows the assembly to be a lever that 
> translates vertical motion to lateral motion.  This stylus looks like an 
> early jeweled tip intended for lateral pickups or reproducers.
> 
> Greg Bogantz
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2/16/2018 3:20 PM, Ron L'Herault via Phono-L wrote:
> Could the stylus in the attached image be for an Edison C-4 to allow it to 
> play Diamond Discs?
>  
> Ron L
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Re: [Phono-L] C-4 DD stylus

[Peter Fraser via Phono-L]

Geometry is wrong for it to play verticals in a lateral pickup. Do a search on 
“Hughes Stylus” for an example of something that does. 

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> On Feb 16, 2018, at 4:52 PM, Ron L'Herault via Phono-L <phono-l@oldcrank.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> Was told that it is an Edison product.  The little jar it is in has the 
> number6927 on it.
>  
> Ron L
>  
> From: Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Greg Bogantz 
> via Phono-L
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 5:56 PM
> To: Ron L'Herault via Phono-L
> Cc: Greg Bogantz
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] C-4 DD stylus
>  
> I don't think that playing DDs is what this stylus was intended to do.  
> To be effective for playing vertical cut discs with a lateral pickup, the 
> stylus assembly has to have the tip considerably offset to the side relative 
> to the line of the shank.  This allows the assembly to be a lever that 
> translates vertical motion to lateral motion.  This stylus looks like an 
> early jeweled tip intended for lateral pickups or reproducers.
> 
> Greg Bogantz
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2/16/2018 3:20 PM, Ron L'Herault via Phono-L wrote:
> Could the stylus in the attached image be for an Edison C-4 to allow it to 
> play Diamond Discs?
>  
> Ron L
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Re: [Phono-L] C-4 DD stylus

[Ron L'Herault via Phono-L]

Was told that it is an Edison product.  The little jar it is in has the
number6927 on it.

 

Ron L

 

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I don't think that playing DDs is what this stylus was intended to do.
To be effective for playing vertical cut discs with a lateral pickup, the
stylus assembly has to have the tip considerably offset to the side relative
to the line of the shank.  This allows the assembly to be a lever that
translates vertical motion to lateral motion.  This stylus looks like an
early jeweled tip intended for lateral pickups or reproducers.

Greg Bogantz





On 2/16/2018 3:20 PM, Ron L'Herault via Phono-L wrote:

Could the stylus in the attached image be for an Edison C-4 to allow it to
play Diamond Discs?

 

Ron L






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Re: [Phono-L] C-4 DD stylus

[Greg Bogantz via Phono-L]

    I don't think that playing DDs is what this stylus was intended to 
do.  To be effective for playing vertical cut discs with a lateral 
pickup, the stylus assembly has to have the tip considerably offset to 
the side relative to the line of the shank.  This allows the assembly to 
be a lever that translates vertical motion to lateral motion. This 
stylus looks like an early jeweled tip intended for lateral pickups or 
reproducers.


Greg Bogantz




On 2/16/2018 3:20 PM, Ron L'Herault via Phono-L wrote:


Could the stylus in the attached image be for an Edison C-4 to allow 
it to play Diamond Discs?


Ron L



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