Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed?

2011-07-12 Thread Robert Wright
: rich-m...@octoxol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed? The physical surface shrinks. This is why they were recorded at a speed different than the 160 desired final result. The actual question was how was the 160 RPM speed checked? And with an accuracy

Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed?

2011-07-12 Thread AllenAmet
In a message dated 7/12/2011 3:56:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, esrobe...@hotmail.com writes: I've never heard of this. Must be a fascinating read. Where did you hear about cylinders being recorded at a different speed than the intended playback? that has to be the

Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed?

2011-07-12 Thread Rich
like that. As such, I ain't buyin' it (nothing personal)! Best,Robert Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:05:02 -0500 From: rich-m...@octoxol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed? The physical surface shrinks. This is why they were recorded at a speed different than

Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed?

2011-07-12 Thread Robert Wright
: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed? In a message dated 7/12/2011 3:56:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, esrobe...@hotmail.com writes: I've never heard of this. Must be a fascinating read. Where did you hear about cylinders being recorded at a different speed than the intended playback

Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed?

2011-07-12 Thread Glenn Longwell
the recording speed still be 160rpm? Glenn From: allena...@aol.com allena...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, July 12, 2011 4:34:21 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed? In a message dated 7/12/2011 3:56:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, esrobe

Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed?

2011-07-12 Thread Robert Wright
closer to 97tpi?) Best, Robert Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 14:30:21 -0700 From: majesticrec...@snet.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed? This follows Robert's thoughts as well (I think). This is all about in-plane shrinkage. So the original cylinder

Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed?

2011-07-12 Thread Rich
...@aol.com Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 16:34:21 -0400 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed? In a message dated 7/12/2011 3:56:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, esrobe...@hotmail.com writes: I've never heard of this. Must be a fascinating read. Where did you hear about

Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed?

2011-07-12 Thread Rich
: Tue, July 12, 2011 4:34:21 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed? In a message dated 7/12/2011 3:56:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, esrobe...@hotmail.com writes: I've never heard of this. Must be a fascinating read. Where did you hear about cylinders being recorded at a different

Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed?

2011-07-12 Thread Jay Horenstein
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed? This follows Robert's thoughts as well (I think). This is all about in-plane shrinkage. So the original cylinder is longer to accommodate this shrinkage and the speed at which the cutter would move laterally across

Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed?

2011-07-12 Thread Loran T. Hughes
All this talk of shrinkage makes me feel as if I'm in an episode of Seinfeld ;-) Spring motor, leather belt drive, and questionable tolerances do not meet the level of laser precision. Get it close, tune to ear, and enjoy. Loran On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com wrote:

Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed?

2011-07-12 Thread Rich
, Robert Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 14:30:21 -0700 From: majesticrec...@snet.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed? This follows Robert's thoughts as well (I think). This is all about in-plane shrinkage. So the original cylinder is longer to accommodate

Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed?

2011-07-12 Thread Rich
I think that was my original point. Shooting a flea with an atomic cannon... On 07/12/2011 06:49 PM, Loran T. Hughes wrote: All this talk of shrinkage makes me feel as if I'm in an episode of Seinfeld ;-) Spring motor, leather belt drive, and questionable tolerances do not meet the level of

Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed?

2011-07-12 Thread Robert Wright
Granted. I was seeking the answer to a different question entirely. Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:00:40 -0500 From: rich-m...@octoxol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed? I think that was my original point. Shooting a flea with an atomic cannon

Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed?

2011-07-12 Thread Rich
: Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed? This follows Robert's thoughts as well (I think). This is all about in-plane shrinkage. So the original cylinder is longer to accommodate this shrinkage and the speed at which the cutter would move laterally across the cylinder would have to be slightly

Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed?

2011-07-12 Thread Robert Wright
core enough to get it to fit? $45 seems steep to me for sandpaper glued to a stick, but I've considered trying one. Robert Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:24:43 -0500 From: rich-m...@octoxol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed? The shrink on a BA can

Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed?

2011-07-12 Thread Rich
to a stick, but I've considered trying one. Robert Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:24:43 -0500 From: rich-m...@octoxol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed? The shrink on a BA can be enough to run out of lateral travel on the reproducer before you run out

[Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed?

2011-07-11 Thread Robert Wright
Hi all, quick question after a long absence: if a given point along the circumference of a cylinder passes a fixed position exactly 160 times per minute, why would the pitch change? Even if it shrunk to half its size, but was still played at 160 rpm, the wavelengths of the recorded frequencies

Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed?

2011-07-11 Thread Rich
There is both radial and axial shrinkage. Beyond that, how did Edison Co. determine 160 RPM? On 07/11/2011 05:20 PM, Robert Wright wrote: Hi all, quick question after a long absence: if a given point along the circumference of a cylinder passes a fixed position exactly 160 times per minute,

Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed?

2011-07-11 Thread Robert Wright
of the physical surface, that ain't gonna happen. Best, Robert Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:09:08 -0500 From: rich-m...@octoxol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed? There is both radial and axial shrinkage. Beyond

Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed?

2011-07-11 Thread Rich
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:09:08 -0500 From: rich-m...@octoxol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed? There is both radial and axial shrinkage. Beyond that, how did Edison Co. determine 160 RPM? On 07/11/2011 05:20 PM, Robert Wright wrote: Hi all, quick