Re: [Phono-L] Adaptor for diamond disc records
Just happened to see the VICSONIA in a 1918 Sears catalogue: $4.50 for nickel, $5.40 for gold . - Original Message - From: Alan Wohl bubb...@optonline.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Adaptor for diamond disc records Here is what you want. THis one is sold though. http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vicsonia-reproducer-for-victor-victrola-machines-w ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Adaptor for diamond disc records
Wow, I've never seen an adaptor like that, other than the Brunswick Ultona 3-way tonearm. All the adaptors I've ever seen fit Edison phono's to play lateral 78's. Be nice to have both! Anyone have a picture of the type of adaptor David's asking about? Best,Robert To: phono-l@oldcrank.org From: drlun...@comcast.net Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 19:21:26 + Subject: [Phono-L] Adaptor for diamond disc records List: if anyone has an extra adaptor to allow their victor phono to play diamond disc records, I'd like to pick one up. I used to have one but can't locate and I have some xmas records I'd like to play on a victor this year. Please contact me off list if you have one for sale. Thanks. David --Original Message-- From: Ron L'Herault Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org To: phonol...@yahoogroups.com To: 'Antique Phonograph List' ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] cylinder cabinet pegs and knob Sent: Oct 31, 2010 9:26 AM I just picked up a 252 peg, 6 drawer cylinder cabinet in Oak. Unfortunately, of course, all the pegs have been removed and one knob is broken. I'm pretty sure that there are at least a couple of peg suppliers. Phonophan is one. Who is the other, Jim? Does anyone have one knob and disk that they would like to part with? It is the roundish, openwork knob with a round disk behind it. I can take a picture of a good one if necessary. Thanks, Ron L'Herault ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Adaptor for diamond disc records
Here is one that's currently on E-bay that lets you play regular 78s on an Edison machine (or so the listing says). I don't know anything about these. I just happened to see it this afternoon. Tom http://cgi.ebay.com/Empire-Reproducer-Adaptor-Edison-Disc-Phonograph-/320508 76?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4a9fcfa573 -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Robert Wright Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 5:07 PM To: Phono L Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Adaptor for diamond disc records Wow, I've never seen an adaptor like that, other than the Brunswick Ultona 3-way tonearm. All the adaptors I've ever seen fit Edison phono's to play lateral 78's. Be nice to have both! Anyone have a picture of the type of adaptor David's asking about? Best,Robert To: phono-l@oldcrank.org From: drlun...@comcast.net Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 19:21:26 + Subject: [Phono-L] Adaptor for diamond disc records List: if anyone has an extra adaptor to allow their victor phono to play diamond disc records, I'd like to pick one up. I used to have one but can't locate and I have some xmas records I'd like to play on a victor this year. Please contact me off list if you have one for sale. Thanks. David --Original Message-- From: Ron L'Herault Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org To: phonol...@yahoogroups.com To: 'Antique Phonograph List' ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] cylinder cabinet pegs and knob Sent: Oct 31, 2010 9:26 AM I just picked up a 252 peg, 6 drawer cylinder cabinet in Oak. Unfortunately, of course, all the pegs have been removed and one knob is broken. I'm pretty sure that there are at least a couple of peg suppliers. Phonophan is one. Who is the other, Jim? Does anyone have one knob and disk that they would like to part with? It is the roundish, openwork knob with a round disk behind it. I can take a picture of a good one if necessary. Thanks, Ron L'Herault ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Adaptor for diamond disc records
I used to have one. Pretty sure there's a photo in the Paul/Fabrizio Gadgets book. Regards, Loran On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Robert Wright esrobe...@hotmail.com wrote: Wow, I've never seen an adaptor like that, other than the Brunswick Ultona 3-way tonearm. All the adaptors I've ever seen fit Edison phono's to play lateral 78's. Be nice to have both! Anyone have a picture of the type of adaptor David's asking about? Best,Robert To: phono-l@oldcrank.org From: drlun...@comcast.net Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 19:21:26 + Subject: [Phono-L] Adaptor for diamond disc records List: if anyone has an extra adaptor to allow their victor phono to play diamond disc records, I'd like to pick one up. I used to have one but can't locate and I have some xmas records I'd like to play on a victor this year. Please contact me off list if you have one for sale. Thanks. David --Original Message-- From: Ron L'Herault Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org To: phonol...@yahoogroups.com To: 'Antique Phonograph List' ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] cylinder cabinet pegs and knob Sent: Oct 31, 2010 9:26 AM I just picked up a 252 peg, 6 drawer cylinder cabinet in Oak. Unfortunately, of course, all the pegs have been removed and one knob is broken. I'm pretty sure that there are at least a couple of peg suppliers. Phonophan is one. Who is the other, Jim? Does anyone have one knob and disk that they would like to part with? It is the roundish, openwork knob with a round disk behind it. I can take a picture of a good one if necessary. Thanks, Ron L'Herault ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Adaptor for diamond disc records
Here is what you want. THis one is sold though. http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vicsonia-reproducer-for-victor-victrola-machines-w Al On Oct 31, 2010, at 6:33 PM, Loran T. Hughes wrote: I used to have one. Pretty sure there's a photo in the Paul/Fabrizio Gadgets book. Regards, Loran On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Robert Wright esrobe...@hotmail.com wrote: Wow, I've never seen an adaptor like that, other than the Brunswick Ultona 3-way tonearm. All the adaptors I've ever seen fit Edison phono's to play lateral 78's. Be nice to have both! Anyone have a picture of the type of adaptor David's asking about? Best,Robert To: phono-l@oldcrank.org From: drlun...@comcast.net Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 19:21:26 + Subject: [Phono-L] Adaptor for diamond disc records List: if anyone has an extra adaptor to allow their victor phono to play diamond disc records, I'd like to pick one up. I used to have one but can't locate and I have some xmas records I'd like to play on a victor this year. Please contact me off list if you have one for sale. Thanks. David --Original Message-- From: Ron L'Herault Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org To: phonol...@yahoogroups.com To: 'Antique Phonograph List' ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] cylinder cabinet pegs and knob Sent: Oct 31, 2010 9:26 AM I just picked up a 252 peg, 6 drawer cylinder cabinet in Oak. Unfortunately, of course, all the pegs have been removed and one knob is broken. I'm pretty sure that there are at least a couple of peg suppliers. Phonophan is one. Who is the other, Jim? Does anyone have one knob and disk that they would like to part with? It is the roundish, openwork knob with a round disk behind it. I can take a picture of a good one if necessary. Thanks, Ron L'Herault ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Adaptor for diamond disc records
Tom, the link works fine. Maybe you didn't notice that it is broken into two lines? In those situations you have to copy the whole two lines and paste it into your browser. Jim On Oct 31, 2010, at 6:27 PM, Tom Jordan wrote: I tried the link that I shared below and it doesn't work. If you type Edison phonograph adapter in the search line it's on the first page. Tom -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Tom Jordan Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 5:19 PM To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Adaptor for diamond disc records Here is one that's currently on E-bay that lets you play regular 78s on an Edison machine (or so the listing says). I don't know anything about these. I just happened to see it this afternoon. Tom http://cgi.ebay.com/Empire-Reproducer-Adaptor-Edison-Disc-Phonograph-/320508 76?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4a9fcfa573 -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Robert Wright Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 5:07 PM To: Phono L Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Adaptor for diamond disc records Wow, I've never seen an adaptor like that, other than the Brunswick Ultona 3-way tonearm. All the adaptors I've ever seen fit Edison phono's to play lateral 78's. Be nice to have both! Anyone have a picture of the type of adaptor David's asking about? Best,Robert To: phono-l@oldcrank.org From: drlun...@comcast.net Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 19:21:26 + Subject: [Phono-L] Adaptor for diamond disc records List: if anyone has an extra adaptor to allow their victor phono to play diamond disc records, I'd like to pick one up. I used to have one but can't locate and I have some xmas records I'd like to play on a victor this year. Please contact me off list if you have one for sale. Thanks. David --Original Message-- From: Ron L'Herault Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org To: phonol...@yahoogroups.com To: 'Antique Phonograph List' ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] cylinder cabinet pegs and knob Sent: Oct 31, 2010 9:26 AM I just picked up a 252 peg, 6 drawer cylinder cabinet in Oak. Unfortunately, of course, all the pegs have been removed and one knob is broken. I'm pretty sure that there are at least a couple of peg suppliers. Phonophan is one. Who is the other, Jim? Does anyone have one knob and disk that they would like to part with? It is the roundish, openwork knob with a round disk behind it. I can take a picture of a good one if necessary. Thanks, Ron L'Herault ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Adaptor for diamond disc records
This particular adapter I've been watching for a while. It's been up there several months at that price and the seller has yet to lower it to try and move it. It interests me as Empire was one of the vertical cut brands of the teens that I'm researching although I'm not interested at that price. The Empire Talking Machine Company produced both phonographs and had both vertical and universal cut records. A separate and related entity, Empire Phono Parts Company, produced universal tonearms but I've never seen any documentation that matches this particular tonearm. In fact, anything I've seen only advertises the universal tonearm with never a mention of an Edison adapter. However, I don't have any documentation after Empire's records stopped and Empire Phono kept going for a number of years so it's possible this product came out after 1921. The reproducer clearly is an Empire and it does look like everything matches so would assume it's a complete Empire product. Does anyone have any Empire literature that shows this? Thanks, Glenn From: Jim Nichol jnic...@fuse.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sun, October 31, 2010 9:10:56 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Adaptor for diamond disc records Tom, the link works fine. Maybe you didn't notice that it is broken into two lines? In those situations you have to copy the whole two lines and paste it into your browser. Jim On Oct 31, 2010, at 6:27 PM, Tom Jordan wrote: I tried the link that I shared below and it doesn't work. If you type Edison phonograph adapter in the search line it's on the first page. Tom -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Tom Jordan Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 5:19 PM To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Adaptor for diamond disc records Here is one that's currently on E-bay that lets you play regular 78s on an Edison machine (or so the listing says). I don't know anything about these. I just happened to see it this afternoon. Tom http://cgi.ebay.com/Empire-Reproducer-Adaptor-Edison-Disc-Phonograph-/320508 76?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4a9fcfa573 -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Robert Wright Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 5:07 PM To: Phono L Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Adaptor for diamond disc records Wow, I've never seen an adaptor like that, other than the Brunswick Ultona 3-way tonearm. All the adaptors I've ever seen fit Edison phono's to play lateral 78's. Be nice to have both! Anyone have a picture of the type of adaptor David's asking about? Best,Robert To: phono-l@oldcrank.org From: drlun...@comcast.net Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 19:21:26 + Subject: [Phono-L] Adaptor for diamond disc records List: if anyone has an extra adaptor to allow their victor phono to play diamond disc records, I'd like to pick one up. I used to have one but can't locate and I have some xmas records I'd like to play on a victor this year. Please contact me off list if you have one for sale. Thanks. David --Original Message-- From: Ron L'Herault Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org To: phonol...@yahoogroups.com To: 'Antique Phonograph List' ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] cylinder cabinet pegs and knob Sent: Oct 31, 2010 9:26 AM I just picked up a 252 peg, 6 drawer cylinder cabinet in Oak. Unfortunately, of course, all the pegs have been removed and one knob is broken. I'm pretty sure that there are at least a couple of peg suppliers. Phonophan is one. Who is the other, Jim? Does anyone have one knob and disk that they would like to part with? It is the roundish, openwork knob with a round disk behind it. I can take a picture of a good one if necessary. Thanks, Ron L'Herault ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Adaptor for diamond disc records
In a message dated 10/31/10 9:10:49 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, majesticrec...@snet.net writes: This particular adapter I've been watching for a while. It's been up there several months at that price and the seller has yet to lower it to try and move it. It interests me as Empire was one of the vertical cut brands of the teens that I'm researching although I'm not interested at that price. The Empire Talking Machine Company produced both phonographs and had both vertical and universal cut records. A separate and related entity, Empire Phono Parts Company, produced universal tonearms but I've never seen any documentation that matches this particular tonearm. In fact, anything I've seen only advertises the universal tonearm with never a mention of an Edison adapter. However, I don't have any documentation after Empire's records stopped and Empire Phono kept going for a number of years so it's possible this product came out after 1921. The reproducer clearly is an Empire and it does look like everything matches so would assume it's a complete Empire product. Does anyone have any Empire literature that shows this? Thanks, Glenn Hi Glenn, I just acquired an Edison DD machine which came with an interesting reproducer. In addition to the standard Edison reproducer there was included another which would play 78s. It is not an Empire but is called an Oro-Phone. It was made by the Oro-Tone company of Chicago and appears to be able to play BOTH vertically and laterally recorded records. It takes steel needles for either. It rotates in such a way as to use different needle holes for the two types of 78s. Very wierd. ---Art Heller ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
