Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard

[Randy Larson via Phono-L]

West Salem Wisconsin, thanks
Randy

On Apr 14, 2017 7:42 PM, "Ward Sandstrom via Phono-L" 
wrote:

Where is the machine located
Thanks

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On Apr 14, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Randy Larson via Phono-L 
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I sincerely apologize for my poor eyesight, I was convinced this was an E,
but putting my flashlight on it, it was clearly an FYI, I'm so sorry for
the controversy. Here are the serial numbers and Model number, the flash of
my camera making it clearer.

<20170414_102201.jpg>

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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard

[Ward Sandstrom via Phono-L]

Where is the machine located
Thanks

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> On Apr 14, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Randy Larson via Phono-L  
> wrote:
> 
> I sincerely apologize for my poor eyesight, I was convinced this was an E, 
> but putting my flashlight on it, it was clearly an FYI, I'm so sorry for the 
> controversy. Here are the serial numbers and Model number, the flash of my 
> camera making it clearer. 
> 
> <20170414_102201.jpg>
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard question - ebay

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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard A versus B Model

[john robles]

Sounds like a marriage of an A case and B motor except for the speed control. 
Maybe the winding shaft was replaced?? I'd like to see pics!

John




 From: Bill Taney b...@taney.com
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Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2012 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard A versus B Model
 
Mine is in the short (green) oak case, the motor has the external speed
control and is held up against the bed plate/no springs and it has a
threaded crank.
Bill


On 3/3/12 11:24 PM, clockworkh...@aol.com clockworkh...@aol.com wrote:



When George and I did the 1976 Edison cylinder phonograph book the
printer missed some text.  I don't think it appeared when George did the
expanded Companion book.

The Model A Standard used a pin crank engagement.  The motor was held *up
against* the bedplate with screws through rubber grommets to lessen
vibration transmission.  The speed control was up through the bedplate on
top.  The cabinet is shorter than the later B.  All Model A Standards in
the 'new style cabinet of 1901' have a banner transfer.

The Model B Standard used a threaded engagement.  The motor was
*suspended on springs* from the bedplate.  Since the motor was lower, the
cabinet had to be increased in height for motor clearance from the
cabinet floor.  This brought about the 'tall Standard' Model B cabinet
style.  The speed control was made into a simple screw that did not
extend about the bedplate.  The Model B Standard only had the banner
transfer for short time as the single word Edison replaced it in the
summer of '06.

The ICS Standard machines had the speed control knob on top of the
bedplate all the way through the rest of the Standard line.  They did
this to allow for adjustment to the 90 RPM record speed.

In 1975 I received what I thought was the galley copy of the book from
George and immediately began editing.  I called George a few days later
with my erratum and he told me that was the final copy not a galley
proof.  As a result, there is one photograph of an Edison machine missing
from that book and the idiot typesetter and page format person
responsible for the Standard chapter never caught the mistake.  The most
common Edison cylinder machine made, the Standard Model B, appears
nowhere in the book as a picture.  And, now you know the rest of the
story.

Regards to all,

Al

PS:  Variations from the above machine descriptions are likely kitchen
table conglomerates, one of the confusing factors for Edison having so
many interchangeable parts floating around through the last 110 years.
eBay this last month had a Model B Home in a later D style cabinet, a
Standard B in an A cabinet with the motor screwed down so it would fit,
and a few other peculiar mutts, all listed as untouched originals.  How
sad we cannot contact the buyers any longer to send them a warning
missive.





 
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard A versus B Model

[john robles]

Bill, what's the serial number?




 From: Bill Taney b...@taney.com
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Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2012 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard A versus B Model
 
Mine is in the short (green) oak case, the motor has the external speed
control and is held up against the bed plate/no springs and it has a
threaded crank.
Bill


On 3/3/12 11:24 PM, clockworkh...@aol.com clockworkh...@aol.com wrote:



When George and I did the 1976 Edison cylinder phonograph book the
printer missed some text.  I don't think it appeared when George did the
expanded Companion book.

The Model A Standard used a pin crank engagement.  The motor was held *up
against* the bedplate with screws through rubber grommets to lessen
vibration transmission.  The speed control was up through the bedplate on
top.  The cabinet is shorter than the later B.  All Model A Standards in
the 'new style cabinet of 1901' have a banner transfer.

The Model B Standard used a threaded engagement.  The motor was
*suspended on springs* from the bedplate.  Since the motor was lower, the
cabinet had to be increased in height for motor clearance from the
cabinet floor.  This brought about the 'tall Standard' Model B cabinet
style.  The speed control was made into a simple screw that did not
extend about the bedplate.  The Model B Standard only had the banner
transfer for short time as the single word Edison replaced it in the
summer of '06.

The ICS Standard machines had the speed control knob on top of the
bedplate all the way through the rest of the Standard line.  They did
this to allow for adjustment to the 90 RPM record speed.

In 1975 I received what I thought was the galley copy of the book from
George and immediately began editing.  I called George a few days later
with my erratum and he told me that was the final copy not a galley
proof.  As a result, there is one photograph of an Edison machine missing
from that book and the idiot typesetter and page format person
responsible for the Standard chapter never caught the mistake.  The most
common Edison cylinder machine made, the Standard Model B, appears
nowhere in the book as a picture.  And, now you know the rest of the
story.

Regards to all,

Al

PS:  Variations from the above machine descriptions are likely kitchen
table conglomerates, one of the confusing factors for Edison having so
many interchangeable parts floating around through the last 110 years.
eBay this last month had a Model B Home in a later D style cabinet, a
Standard B in an A cabinet with the motor screwed down so it would fit,
and a few other peculiar mutts, all listed as untouched originals.  How
sad we cannot contact the buyers any longer to send them a warning
missive.





 
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard A versus B Model

[Bill Taney]

S178813

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On Mar 4, 2012, at 9:55 AM, john robles john9...@pacbell.net wrote:

 Bill, what's the serial number?
 
 
 
 
 From: Bill Taney b...@taney.com
 To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org 
 Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2012 11:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard A versus B Model
 
 Mine is in the short (green) oak case, the motor has the external speed
 control and is held up against the bed plate/no springs and it has a
 threaded crank.
 Bill
 
 
 On 3/3/12 11:24 PM, clockworkh...@aol.com clockworkh...@aol.com wrote:
 
 
 
 When George and I did the 1976 Edison cylinder phonograph book the
 printer missed some text.  I don't think it appeared when George did the
 expanded Companion book.
 
 The Model A Standard used a pin crank engagement.  The motor was held *up
 against* the bedplate with screws through rubber grommets to lessen
 vibration transmission.  The speed control was up through the bedplate on
 top.  The cabinet is shorter than the later B.  All Model A Standards in
 the 'new style cabinet of 1901' have a banner transfer.
 
 The Model B Standard used a threaded engagement.  The motor was
 *suspended on springs* from the bedplate.  Since the motor was lower, the
 cabinet had to be increased in height for motor clearance from the
 cabinet floor.  This brought about the 'tall Standard' Model B cabinet
 style.  The speed control was made into a simple screw that did not
 extend about the bedplate.  The Model B Standard only had the banner
 transfer for short time as the single word Edison replaced it in the
 summer of '06.
 
 The ICS Standard machines had the speed control knob on top of the
 bedplate all the way through the rest of the Standard line.  They did
 this to allow for adjustment to the 90 RPM record speed.
 
 In 1975 I received what I thought was the galley copy of the book from
 George and immediately began editing.  I called George a few days later
 with my erratum and he told me that was the final copy not a galley
 proof.  As a result, there is one photograph of an Edison machine missing
 from that book and the idiot typesetter and page format person
 responsible for the Standard chapter never caught the mistake.  The most
 common Edison cylinder machine made, the Standard Model B, appears
 nowhere in the book as a picture.  And, now you know the rest of the
 story.
 
 Regards to all,
 
 Al
 
 PS:  Variations from the above machine descriptions are likely kitchen
 table conglomerates, one of the confusing factors for Edison having so
 many interchangeable parts floating around through the last 110 years.
 eBay this last month had a Model B Home in a later D style cabinet, a
 Standard B in an A cabinet with the motor screwed down so it would fit,
 and a few other peculiar mutts, all listed as untouched originals.  How
 sad we cannot contact the buyers any longer to send them a warning
 missive.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard A versus B Model

[Bill Taney]

Mine is in the short (green) oak case, the motor has the external speed
control and is held up against the bed plate/no springs and it has a
threaded crank.
Bill


On 3/3/12 11:24 PM, clockworkh...@aol.com clockworkh...@aol.com wrote:



When George and I did the 1976 Edison cylinder phonograph book the
printer missed some text.  I don't think it appeared when George did the
expanded Companion book.

The Model A Standard used a pin crank engagement.  The motor was held *up
against* the bedplate with screws through rubber grommets to lessen
vibration transmission.  The speed control was up through the bedplate on
top.  The cabinet is shorter than the later B.  All Model A Standards in
the 'new style cabinet of 1901' have a banner transfer.

The Model B Standard used a threaded engagement.  The motor was
*suspended on springs* from the bedplate.  Since the motor was lower, the
cabinet had to be increased in height for motor clearance from the
cabinet floor.  This brought about the 'tall Standard' Model B cabinet
style.  The speed control was made into a simple screw that did not
extend about the bedplate.  The Model B Standard only had the banner
transfer for short time as the single word Edison replaced it in the
summer of '06.

The ICS Standard machines had the speed control knob on top of the
bedplate all the way through the rest of the Standard line.  They did
this to allow for adjustment to the 90 RPM record speed.

In 1975 I received what I thought was the galley copy of the book from
George and immediately began editing.  I called George a few days later
with my erratum and he told me that was the final copy not a galley
proof.  As a result, there is one photograph of an Edison machine missing
from that book and the idiot typesetter and page format person
responsible for the Standard chapter never caught the mistake.  The most
common Edison cylinder machine made, the Standard Model B, appears
nowhere in the book as a picture.  And, now you know the rest of the
story.

Regards to all,

Al

PS:  Variations from the above machine descriptions are likely kitchen
table conglomerates, one of the confusing factors for Edison having so
many interchangeable parts floating around through the last 110 years.
eBay this last month had a Model B Home in a later D style cabinet, a
Standard B in an A cabinet with the motor screwed down so it would fit,
and a few other peculiar mutts, all listed as untouched originals.  How
sad we cannot contact the buyers any longer to send them a warning
missive.





 
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop Video

[Melissa Ricci]

Hello Everyone,

We are still completely stumped with our apparent auto-stop attachment. We have 
taken a video of the machine playing so you can see where it sits as the 
machine functions. There are two close up pictures a the end of the video. 
Please let us know if the link does not work or if you know what this 
attachment is. 
Thanks so much!
Melissa and Nick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLlmYvCWqXI   




From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

I was going to suggest just attaching them and Loran will send them on. 
Probably were a bit on the large size so he has to shrink them first.

On 08/06/2011 09:54 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:
 Hi Rich,
 Sorry about that. The link only seems to work on Yahoo's phonolist group. I 
 tried to send the pics as attachments directly to Phono-l but I got a message 
 that they are waiting to be approved by the moderator. Hopefully, the pics 
 and message will be sent through when the moderator gets them.
 Thanks for letting me know there was a problem!
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

[Melissa Ricci]

Ok, I can already tell that it did not send it as an actual link but you should 
be able to copy and paste the link into your browser to view the video. It is 
posted on YouTube.

Please email me if it doesn't work for you.

Thanks again!



From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

I was going to suggest just attaching them and Loran will send them on. 
Probably were a bit on the large size so he has to shrink them first.

On 08/06/2011 09:54 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:
 Hi Rich,
 Sorry about that. The link only seems to work on Yahoo's phonolist group. I 
 tried to send the pics as attachments directly to Phono-l but I got a message 
 that they are waiting to be approved by the moderator. Hopefully, the pics 
 and message will be sent through when the moderator gets them.
 Thanks for letting me know there was a problem!
 Melissa
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

[Rich]

Link came through fine here. Not sure what might be missing or what the 
function is though.


On 08/10/2011 05:37 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:

Ok, I can already tell that it did not send it as an actual link but you should 
be able to copy and paste the link into your browser to view the video. It is 
posted on YouTube.

Please email me if it doesn't work for you.

Thanks again!



From: Richrich-m...@octoxol.com
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

I was going to suggest just attaching them and Loran will send them on.
Probably were a bit on the large size so he has to shrink them first.

On 08/06/2011 09:54 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:

Hi Rich,
Sorry about that. The link only seems to work on Yahoo's phonolist group. I 
tried to send the pics as attachments directly to Phono-l but I got a message 
that they are waiting to be approved by the moderator. Hopefully, the pics and 
message will be sent through when the moderator gets them.
Thanks for letting me know there was a problem!
Melissa
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop Video

[harvey kravitz]

Thank you for sharing the video. That was a great restoration on the machine.
Harvey Kravitz




From: Melissa Ricci riccib...@yahoo.com
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop Video

Hello Everyone,

We are still completely stumped with our apparent auto-stop attachment. We have 
taken a video of the machine playing so you can see where it sits as the 
machine functions. There are two close up pictures a the end of the video. 
Please let us know if the link does not work or if you know what this 
attachment is. 
Thanks so much!
Melissa and Nick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLlmYvCWqXI   




From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

I was going to suggest just attaching them and Loran will send them on. 
Probably were a bit on the large size so he has to shrink them first.

On 08/06/2011 09:54 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:
 Hi Rich,
 Sorry about that. The link only seems to work on Yahoo's phonolist group. I 
 tried to send the pics as attachments directly to Phono-l but I got a message 
 that they are waiting to be approved by the moderator. Hopefully, the pics 
 and message will be sent through when the moderator gets them.
 Thanks for letting me know there was a problem!
 Melissa
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

[Melissa Ricci]

Hi Rich,
Thanks for looking. It is very puzzling! 
Melissa



From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

Link came through fine here. Not sure what might be missing or what the 
function is though.

On 08/10/2011 05:37 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:
 Ok, I can already tell that it did not send it as an actual link but you 
 should be able to copy and paste the link into your browser to view the 
 video. It is posted on YouTube.

 Please email me if it doesn't work for you.

 Thanks again!


 
 From: Richrich-m...@octoxol.com
 To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 11:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

 I was going to suggest just attaching them and Loran will send them on.
 Probably were a bit on the large size so he has to shrink them first.

 On 08/06/2011 09:54 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:
 Hi Rich,
 Sorry about that. The link only seems to work on Yahoo's phonolist group. I 
 tried to send the pics as attachments directly to Phono-l but I got a 
 message that they are waiting to be approved by the moderator. Hopefully, 
 the pics and message will be sent through when the moderator gets them.
 Thanks for letting me know there was a problem!
 Melissa
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop Video

[Melissa Ricci]

Thanks!



From: harvey kravitz harveykrav...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop Video

Thank you for sharing the video. That was a great restoration on the machine.
Harvey Kravitz




From: Melissa Ricci riccib...@yahoo.com
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop Video

Hello Everyone,

We are still completely stumped with our apparent auto-stop attachment. We have 
taken a video of the machine playing so you can see where it sits as the 
machine functions. There are two close up pictures a the end of the video. 
Please let us know if the link does not work or if you know what this 
attachment is. 
Thanks so much!
Melissa and Nick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLlmYvCWqXI   




From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

I was going to suggest just attaching them and Loran will send them on. 
Probably were a bit on the large size so he has to shrink them first.

On 08/06/2011 09:54 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:
 Hi Rich,
 Sorry about that. The link only seems to work on Yahoo's phonolist group. I 
 tried to send the pics as attachments directly to Phono-l but I got a message 
 that they are waiting to be approved by the moderator. Hopefully, the pics 
 and message will be sent through when the moderator gets them.
 Thanks for letting me know there was a problem!
 Melissa
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

[Rich]

It has that home made look to it and acts as a pointer. But that is only 
a guess.


On 08/10/2011 06:12 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:

Hi Rich,
Thanks for looking. It is very puzzling!
Melissa



From: Richrich-m...@octoxol.com
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

Link came through fine here. Not sure what might be missing or what the
function is though.

On 08/10/2011 05:37 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:

Ok, I can already tell that it did not send it as an actual link but you should 
be able to copy and paste the link into your browser to view the video. It is 
posted on YouTube.

Please email me if it doesn't work for you.

Thanks again!



From: Richrich-m...@octoxol.com
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

I was going to suggest just attaching them and Loran will send them on.
Probably were a bit on the large size so he has to shrink them first.

On 08/06/2011 09:54 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:

Hi Rich,
Sorry about that. The link only seems to work on Yahoo's phonolist group. I 
tried to send the pics as attachments directly to Phono-l but I got a message 
that they are waiting to be approved by the moderator. Hopefully, the pics and 
message will be sent through when the moderator gets them.
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

[Melissa Ricci]

We thought of that also but the holes in the bedplate are threaded and the 
screws look like others we see in the machine, only larger. It was very rusty 
and looked as old as the machine did pre-restoration. I also found a picture 
online of a similar Standard with the same autostop. The picture was very far 
away so I couldn't see the part that is important. It did seem to be holding 
the carriage up in their picture. My guess is there was another piece that 
our's is missing. 



From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

It has that home made look to it and acts as a pointer. But that is only 
a guess.

On 08/10/2011 06:12 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:
 Hi Rich,
 Thanks for looking. It is very puzzling!
 Melissa


 
 From: Richrich-m...@octoxol.com
 To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 6:48 PM
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

 Link came through fine here. Not sure what might be missing or what the
 function is though.

 On 08/10/2011 05:37 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:
 Ok, I can already tell that it did not send it as an actual link but you 
 should be able to copy and paste the link into your browser to view the 
 video. It is posted on YouTube.

 Please email me if it doesn't work for you.

 Thanks again!


 
 From: Richrich-m...@octoxol.com
 To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 11:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

 I was going to suggest just attaching them and Loran will send them on.
 Probably were a bit on the large size so he has to shrink them first.

 On 08/06/2011 09:54 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:
 Hi Rich,
 Sorry about that. The link only seems to work on Yahoo's phonolist group. I 
 tried to send the pics as attachments directly to Phono-l but I got a 
 message that they are waiting to be approved by the moderator. Hopefully, 
 the pics and message will be sent through when the moderator gets them.
 Thanks for letting me know there was a problem!
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

[Rich]

There were many contemporary auto stop rigs. Someone on here should have 
an idea of what is missing.


On 08/10/2011 07:05 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:

We thought of that also but the holes in the bedplate are threaded and the 
screws look like others we see in the machine, only larger. It was very rusty 
and looked as old as the machine did pre-restoration. I also found a picture 
online of a similar Standard with the same autostop. The picture was very far 
away so I couldn't see the part that is important. It did seem to be holding 
the carriage up in their picture. My guess is there was another piece that 
our's is missing.



From: Richrich-m...@octoxol.com
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

It has that home made look to it and acts as a pointer. But that is only
a guess.

On 08/10/2011 06:12 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:

Hi Rich,
Thanks for looking. It is very puzzling!
Melissa



From: Richrich-m...@octoxol.com
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

Link came through fine here. Not sure what might be missing or what the
function is though.

On 08/10/2011 05:37 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:

Ok, I can already tell that it did not send it as an actual link but you should 
be able to copy and paste the link into your browser to view the video. It is 
posted on YouTube.

Please email me if it doesn't work for you.

Thanks again!



From: Richrich-m...@octoxol.com
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

I was going to suggest just attaching them and Loran will send them on.
Probably were a bit on the large size so he has to shrink them first.

On 08/06/2011 09:54 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:

Hi Rich,
Sorry about that. The link only seems to work on Yahoo's phonolist group. I 
tried to send the pics as attachments directly to Phono-l but I got a message 
that they are waiting to be approved by the moderator. Hopefully, the pics and 
message will be sent through when the moderator gets them.
Thanks for letting me know there was a problem!
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

[Melissa Ricci]

Thanks for your help! I hope someone on here will be able to tell what it is 
and what is missing. 



From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

There were many contemporary auto stop rigs. Someone on here should have 
an idea of what is missing.

On 08/10/2011 07:05 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:
 We thought of that also but the holes in the bedplate are threaded and the 
 screws look like others we see in the machine, only larger. It was very rusty 
 and looked as old as the machine did pre-restoration. I also found a picture 
 online of a similar Standard with the same autostop. The picture was very far 
 away so I couldn't see the part that is important. It did seem to be holding 
 the carriage up in their picture. My guess is there was another piece that 
 our's is missing.


 
 From: Richrich-m...@octoxol.com
 To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 7:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

 It has that home made look to it and acts as a pointer. But that is only
 a guess.

 On 08/10/2011 06:12 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:
 Hi Rich,
 Thanks for looking. It is very puzzling!
 Melissa


 
 From: Richrich-m...@octoxol.com
 To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 6:48 PM
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

 Link came through fine here. Not sure what might be missing or what the
 function is though.

 On 08/10/2011 05:37 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:
 Ok, I can already tell that it did not send it as an actual link but you 
 should be able to copy and paste the link into your browser to view the 
 video. It is posted on YouTube.

 Please email me if it doesn't work for you.

 Thanks again!


 
 From: Richrich-m...@octoxol.com
 To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 11:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

 I was going to suggest just attaching them and Loran will send them on.
 Probably were a bit on the large size so he has to shrink them first.

 On 08/06/2011 09:54 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:
 Hi Rich,
 Sorry about that. The link only seems to work on Yahoo's phonolist group. 
 I tried to send the pics as attachments directly to Phono-l but I got a 
 message that they are waiting to be approved by the moderator. Hopefully, 
 the pics and message will be sent through when the moderator gets them.
 Thanks for letting me know there was a problem!
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

[Melissa Ricci]

I found the picture! This is not may machine but a picture of one from an 
auction site. It is listed as having an auto stop and seems to have a very 
similar one to mine. I hope this link will help someone out!
Melissa

http://www.burchardgalleries.com/auctions/2002/sep2202/l021b.jpg   



From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

There were many contemporary auto stop rigs. Someone on here should have 
an idea of what is missing.

On 08/10/2011 07:05 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:
 We thought of that also but the holes in the bedplate are threaded and the 
 screws look like others we see in the machine, only larger. It was very rusty 
 and looked as old as the machine did pre-restoration. I also found a picture 
 online of a similar Standard with the same autostop. The picture was very far 
 away so I couldn't see the part that is important. It did seem to be holding 
 the carriage up in their picture. My guess is there was another piece that 
 our's is missing.


 
 From: Richrich-m...@octoxol.com
 To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 7:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

 It has that home made look to it and acts as a pointer. But that is only
 a guess.

 On 08/10/2011 06:12 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:
 Hi Rich,
 Thanks for looking. It is very puzzling!
 Melissa


 
 From: Richrich-m...@octoxol.com
 To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 6:48 PM
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

 Link came through fine here. Not sure what might be missing or what the
 function is though.

 On 08/10/2011 05:37 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:
 Ok, I can already tell that it did not send it as an actual link but you 
 should be able to copy and paste the link into your browser to view the 
 video. It is posted on YouTube.

 Please email me if it doesn't work for you.

 Thanks again!


 
 From: Richrich-m...@octoxol.com
 To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 11:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

 I was going to suggest just attaching them and Loran will send them on.
 Probably were a bit on the large size so he has to shrink them first.

 On 08/06/2011 09:54 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:
 Hi Rich,
 Sorry about that. The link only seems to work on Yahoo's phonolist group. 
 I tried to send the pics as attachments directly to Phono-l but I got a 
 message that they are waiting to be approved by the moderator. Hopefully, 
 the pics and message will be sent through when the moderator gets them.
 Thanks for letting me know there was a problem!
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

[Steve Andersen]

That is a repeating device which was supplied on International Correspondence 
Schools language machines. You would push down on the right side and it would 
lift and move the carriage back to repeat a phrase or word. It is different in 
design than your device.
On Aug 10, 2011, at 9:11 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:

 I found the picture! This is not may machine but a picture of one from an 
 auction site. It is listed as having an auto stop and seems to have a very 
 similar one to mine. I hope this link will help someone out!
 Melissa
 
 http://www.burchardgalleries.com/auctions/2002/sep2202/l021b.jpg   
 
 
 
 From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com
 To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 8:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?
 
 There were many contemporary auto stop rigs. Someone on here should have 
 an idea of what is missing.
 
 On 08/10/2011 07:05 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:
 We thought of that also but the holes in the bedplate are threaded and the 
 screws look like others we see in the machine, only larger. It was very 
 rusty and looked as old as the machine did pre-restoration. I also found a 
 picture online of a similar Standard with the same autostop. The picture was 
 very far away so I couldn't see the part that is important. It did seem to 
 be holding the carriage up in their picture. My guess is there was another 
 piece that our's is missing.
 
 
 
 From: Richrich-m...@octoxol.com
 To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 7:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?
 
 It has that home made look to it and acts as a pointer. But that is only
 a guess.
 
 On 08/10/2011 06:12 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:
 Hi Rich,
 Thanks for looking. It is very puzzling!
 Melissa
 
 
 
 From: Richrich-m...@octoxol.com
 To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 6:48 PM
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?
 
 Link came through fine here. Not sure what might be missing or what the
 function is though.
 
 On 08/10/2011 05:37 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:
 Ok, I can already tell that it did not send it as an actual link but you 
 should be able to copy and paste the link into your browser to view the 
 video. It is posted on YouTube.
 
 Please email me if it doesn't work for you.
 
 Thanks again!
 
 
 
 From: Richrich-m...@octoxol.com
 To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 11:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?
 
 I was going to suggest just attaching them and Loran will send them on.
 Probably were a bit on the large size so he has to shrink them first.
 
 On 08/06/2011 09:54 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:
 Hi Rich,
 Sorry about that. The link only seems to work on Yahoo's phonolist group. 
 I tried to send the pics as attachments directly to Phono-l but I got a 
 message that they are waiting to be approved by the moderator. Hopefully, 
 the pics and message will be sent through when the moderator gets them.
 Thanks for letting me know there was a problem!
 Melissa
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

[Melissa Ricci]

Thanks for clearing that up for me! We have a repeater on our Triumph which is 
a completely different design. It is interesting to know they made one just for 
the language lessons.
Still doesn#39;t help us find out what our mystery device is though.  
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard carriage for model A or B

[mdsorter]

will you be at caps?  I am sure I could dig one up.  

Mike Sorter



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To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Sun, Aug 7, 2011 5:17 am
Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Standard carriage for model A or B



Hi Gang,
I am looking to trade a large reproducer carriage from a Standard Model A or B 
for a small sized carriage for the same. Even trade. If there is a small sized 
carriage for direct sale, I'd be interested.
Harvey Kravitz
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard carriage for model A or B

[harvey kravitz]

Hi Mike,
I won't be at CAPS this year. If you find one, let me know if it is for direct 
sale or trade.
All the best,
Harvey Kravitz




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To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard carriage for model A or B

will you be at caps?  I am sure I could dig one up.  

Mike Sorter



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From: harveykrav...@yahoo.com
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Sun, Aug 7, 2011 5:17 am
Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Standard carriage for model A or B



Hi Gang,
I am looking to trade a large reproducer carriage from a Standard Model A or B 
for a small sized carriage for the same. Even trade. If there is a small sized 
carriage for direct sale, I'd be interested.
Harvey Kravitz
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

[Rich]

Couple of problems. Links are mangled apparently and the site requires a 
login once link is patched.


On 08/06/2011 08:06 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:

Hi Guys,

Thank you for all the info on cleaning brown wax records! I also really enjoyed
reading Shawn's very interesting post. Thanks!

We just finished restoring an Edison Standard Suitcase model A. When we
purchased it at auction they said it had an automatic stop attachment which can
be seen on the front of the machine just covering the Edison signature. We
thought we would figure out how it worked once it was all clean and the machine
was running properly. That time is now, and we can't seem to be able to get it
to do anything.

Does anyone have one of these or know how they work?

Here are some links to pictures we posted of it on the Phonolist site.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/phonolist/photos/album/1819302900/pic/964312955/vi\
ew?picmode=mode=tnorder=ordinalstart=1count=20dir=asc

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/phonolist/photos/album/1819302900/pic/917405647/vi\
ew?picmode=mode=tnorder=ordinalstart=1count=20dir=asc

Thanks!
Melissa and Nick
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

[Melissa Ricci]

Hi Rich,
Sorry about that. The link only seems to work on Yahoo#39;s phonolist group. I 
tried to send the pics as attachments directly to Phono-l but I got a message 
that they are waiting to be approved by the moderator. Hopefully, the pics and 
message will be sent through when the moderator gets them. 
Thanks for letting me know there was a problem!
Melissa
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

[Rich]

I was going to suggest just attaching them and Loran will send them on. 
Probably were a bit on the large size so he has to shrink them first.


On 08/06/2011 09:54 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:

Hi Rich,
Sorry about that. The link only seems to work on Yahoo#39;s phonolist group. I 
tried to send the pics as attachments directly to Phono-l but I got a message that 
they are waiting to be approved by the moderator. Hopefully, the pics and message 
will be sent through when the moderator gets them.
Thanks for letting me know there was a problem!
Melissa
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

[Melissa Ricci]

Sorry, I have attached the picture directly to this email. Hopefully that helps.
Thanks!
Melissa



From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop?

Couple of problems. Links are mangled apparently and the site requires a 
login once link is patched.

On 08/06/2011 08:06 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote:
 Hi Guys,

 Thank you for all the info on cleaning brown wax records! I also really 
 enjoyed
 reading Shawn's very interesting post. Thanks!

 We just finished restoring an Edison Standard Suitcase model A. When we
 purchased it at auction they said it had an automatic stop attachment which 
 can
 be seen on the front of the machine just covering the Edison signature. We
 thought we would figure out how it worked once it was all clean and the 
 machine
 was running properly. That time is now, and we can't seem to be able to get it
 to do anything.

 Does anyone have one of these or know how they work?

 Here are some links to pictures we posted of it on the Phonolist site.

 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/phonolist/photos/album/1819302900/pic/964312955/vi\
 ew?picmode=mode=tnorder=ordinalstart=1count=20dir=asc

 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/phonolist/photos/album/1819302900/pic/917405647/vi\
 ew?picmode=mode=tnorder=ordinalstart=1count=20dir=asc

 Thanks!
 Melissa and Nick
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard E 2 minute conversion... anotherthought...

[Ron L'Herault]

Ah, yes.  The pins were in the Home.  I was working from memory.  I don't
actually own an E Home or Standard.  I did work on  a Home last year and
that stuck in my mind.

Ron L

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Behalf Of clockworkh...@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 5:50 AM
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Standard E 2 minute conversion...
anotherthought...

 
In a message dated 12/22/2009 12:06:37 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
lhera...@bu.edu writes:

I think the block off consisted in removing the two pins that would allow a
direct connection between the drive pulley and the feed screw.

RonL

That would be for the HOME?  You lost me there.
 
The Standard E with only the 4 minute gears means that only one set of gear 
teeth is on the mandrel shaft gear and that the 2 minute gear is missing 
from the shifter. Conversion will consist of changing the mandrel carriage 
drive gear to start with.
 
It would be easier to take a Model D or F and put on a large carriage arm 
for an O Reproducer since they have all the gearing as original.  Removing 
the mandrel gear on an E with only the 4 minute teeth is likely more than
the 
average collector wants to tackle.  It is not hard but does require some 
specialized tools.
 
If the point was to have a Diamond B for 4 minute Blue Amberols and then 
use an adapter for a Model C for the 2 minute black wax records, then I
would 
say to just buy a Model D on eBay missing the reproducers and wait for a 
large diameter carriage conversion to pop up.
 
Best wishes,
 
Al
 
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard E 2 minute conversion... another thought...

[Steven Medved]

Hello Al,
 
Was the carriage reducer or adapter was made for the recorder?
 
I have found on my Triumph with the large carriage that some CHK reproducers 
sit too low.  I corrected this by placing a 0.020 wire in the reducer/adapter 
under where the C will sit.
 
Having all the carriages for the standard being interchangeable is wonderful, 
it allows my Standard A to test out any reproducer from the standard speaker to 
the diamond B.  So far the only standard carriages I need to complete the set 
is the one for the E and F.  The one I have for the ICS has the shaver casting 
that was not drilled out.
 
I saw one of the early Amberolas (the one with the fireside motor) on eBay that 
played both 2 and 4 minute.  

 

Steve

 

If you love variety you will love Edison.

 
 If the point was to have a Diamond B for 4 minute Blue Amberols and then 
 use an adapter for a Model C for the 2 minute black wax records, then I would 
 say to just buy a Model D on eBay missing the reproducers and wait for a 
 large diameter carriage conversion to pop up.
 
 Best wishes,
 
 Al
 
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard E question

[Ron L'Herault]

I think the block off consisted in removing the two pins that would allow a
direct connection between the drive pulley and the feed screw.

RonL

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From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Andrew Baron
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 10:56 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Standard E question

I see in Frow that the 4-minute only Edison Standard model E had the  
same basic mechanism as the combination model D, but with the 2-minute  
gearing blocked off.  Can anyone tell me if the 2-minute gears are  
there, and can be put in service without damaging anything through  
modification?

If the gears aren't there, can it be set up to work in 2-minute mode  
if the 2-minute gearing is found?  Finally, if this can be done, will  
the 2-minute gearing from the Model D make it work, or possibly  
anything borrowed from an Edison retrofit combination gear set?

Thanks in advance for any insight on this.

Andy
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