Re: [PHP-DB] Ajax

2013-02-21 Thread Jim Giner

On 2/21/2013 2:34 AM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:

Hi Ethan,
With all due respect, I really wish I could help, but your structure of
how your doing your
html and php and javascript mix doesn't make sense enough for me
to understand what it is your doing or how to help you. I copied and
pasted your original code
in my editor and it broke all over the place with the syntax
highlighting I have.
That is a big sign your code is not developed properly. Not even the
basic HTML.

I'd suggest getting yourself aquatinted with basic HTML structure first,
then continue with any front or back end languages like
learn how to get the value of fields vs. a TD and how to pass them to
functions.
How to echo php vars into javascript vars, etc.

Got to learn to crawl before you can walk as they say.

:)

GL,
Karl


ROFL


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[PHP-DB] My Comments

2013-02-21 Thread Ethan Rosenberg, PhD

Dear List -

Correction

William N. Lipscomb, Jr.

Ethan


Dear List -

I feel, and correct me if I am wrong, that a list as this or similar, 
should be devoted to help and not sarcasm.  I try to be quiet and to not 
toot my horn, but as events have progressed, I feel I must.


As you all know, I have a PhD. It is in Chemistry.  The thesis is a 
mathematical approximation to the solution of the three body system, 
using the Helium atom as a model. The thesis is 300 pages: 150 of 
Mathematics and 150 of FORTRAN.


Graduate students are known to ask stupid questions, and I had my share 
of them.


In the course of the research I needed help, both in quantum mechanics 
and mathematics. As I was close to Boston, MA, I sought out help from 
MIT and Harvard from:


Prof. William J Lipscomb, Nobel Prize in Chemistry, (1976)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Lipscomb
He placed his research group at my disposal..

and

Prof. Richard Courant, director of what is now the Courant Institute of 
Mathematical Sciences 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courant_Institute_of_Mathematical_Sciences at 
New York University.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Courant
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courant_Institute_of_Mathematical_Sciences
On a visit to MIT, he graciously gave me help with some mathematics I 
needed for my thesis.


Neither of them told me to read my books and stop bothering them with 
such trivia. They were helpful, gracious and gently pointed out my errors


My two cents.

Ethan


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Re: [PHP-DB] My Comments

2013-02-21 Thread Karl DeSaulniers

On Feb 21, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:


Dear List -

Correction

William N. Lipscomb, Jr.

Ethan


Dear List -

I feel, and correct me if I am wrong, that a list as this or  
similar, should be devoted to help and not sarcasm.  I try to be  
quiet and to not toot my horn, but as events have progressed, I  
feel I must.


As you all know, I have a PhD. It is in Chemistry.  The thesis is a  
mathematical approximation to the solution of the three body  
system, using the Helium atom as a model. The thesis is 300 pages:  
150 of Mathematics and 150 of FORTRAN.


Graduate students are known to ask stupid questions, and I had my  
share of them.


In the course of the research I needed help, both in quantum  
mechanics and mathematics. As I was close to Boston, MA, I sought  
out help from MIT and Harvard from:


Prof. William J Lipscomb, Nobel Prize in Chemistry, (1976)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Lipscomb
He placed his research group at my disposal..

and

Prof. Richard Courant, director of what is now the Courant Institute  
of Mathematical Sciences http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courant_Institute_of_Mathematical_Sciences 
 at New York University.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Courant
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ 
Courant_Institute_of_Mathematical_Sciences
On a visit to MIT, he graciously gave me help with some mathematics  
I needed for my thesis.


Neither of them told me to read my books and stop bothering them  
with such trivia. They were helpful, gracious and gently pointed out  
my errors


My two cents.

Ethan


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Ethan,
Yes but this is the websphere.
Things are done differently here in that respect.
We are not getting paid to listen to your problems.
It is out of respect for the open source community that we all do this.
That being said, there is an amount of etiquette you will have to  
learn on your own or by people not wanting to help you as a newbie  
poster here.


I know this because on my very first post I got practically yelled at.
It will get better with time if you learn how to listen and how to  
take the approach of not asking every time you have a problem,
but more so research the heck out of your problem first and do as much  
as you can on your own.


Ever heard of the teddy bear technique?

The other thing about building web pages is the fact that it is  
basically a language your learning.
So like me trying to ask directions in spanish, you may not get very  
far if you don't learn the basics of the languages people speak here  
IE: PHP, HTML, etc...


GL 2 U,

Best,

Karl DeSaulniers
Associates in Visual Communications (Graphic Design)
Self Taught HTML, CSS, Javascript, Ajax, JQuery, XML, PHP and MySQL   
toot toot!

Design Drumm
http://designdrumm.com


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Re: [PHP-DB] My Comments

2013-02-21 Thread Matijn Woudt
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD 
erosenb...@hygeiabiomedical.com wrote:

 Dear List -

 I feel, and correct me if I am wrong, that a list as this or similar,
 should be devoted to help and not sarcasm.  I try to be quiet and to not
 toot my horn, but as events have progressed, I feel I must.
 
 Ethan


Ethan,

First of all, Professors and PhD students get paid, we don't. There are
plenty of people that want to spends hours and hours with your PHP problems
if they get paid.
Second, the amount of questions on this list you ask are higher than
average.
Third, you have been given quite a lot tips on how to learn PHP better, how
to learn other things, including tips on how to make it easier for us to
answer your questions by providing better information your questions. But
somehow you seem to ignore those.

My third point is maybe the most important one. We all try to help, but if
the person asking questions does not take the effort to make it easier for
the ones that help (voluntary!), it's not worth the effort. You might have
noticed that I simply ignore the questions you ask, because of this.

- Matijn


Re: [PHP-DB] My Comments

2013-02-21 Thread Karl DeSaulniers


On Feb 21, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:


Dear List -

Correction

William N. Lipscomb, Jr.

Ethan


Dear List -

I feel, and correct me if I am wrong, that a list as this or  
similar, should be devoted to help and not sarcasm.  I try to be  
quiet and to not toot my horn, but as events have progressed, I  
feel I must.


As you all know, I have a PhD. It is in Chemistry.  The thesis is a  
mathematical approximation to the solution of the three body  
system, using the Helium atom as a model. The thesis is 300 pages:  
150 of Mathematics and 150 of FORTRAN.


Graduate students are known to ask stupid questions, and I had my  
share of them.


In the course of the research I needed help, both in quantum  
mechanics and mathematics. As I was close to Boston, MA, I sought  
out help from MIT and Harvard from:


Prof. William J Lipscomb, Nobel Prize in Chemistry, (1976)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Lipscomb
He placed his research group at my disposal..

and

Prof. Richard Courant, director of what is now the Courant Institute  
of Mathematical Sciences http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courant_Institute_of_Mathematical_Sciences 
 at New York University.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Courant
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ 
Courant_Institute_of_Mathematical_Sciences
On a visit to MIT, he graciously gave me help with some mathematics  
I needed for my thesis.


Neither of them told me to read my books and stop bothering them  
with such trivia. They were helpful, gracious and gently pointed out  
my errors


My two cents.

Ethan


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Ethan,
A few suggestions to you at this point.
From your post, I myself can tell your HTML is wrong. Fix your html  
to show the correct way.
Then make sure your javascript and PHP are separated correctly  
according to language standards and how they are to be sectioned  
within the HTML.
Then try the previous suggested work arounds and if those don't work,  
then submit a shortened version of your post.
Once people see that your going to go along to get along, they may  
be more app to help you with your issues.
No one really cares about what you know or what degree you have  
outside web development. Your here asking for help with things you  
obviously DO NOT have a degree in.
The people here really do want to help you, believe it or not. But  
they are not going to help tout your ego or continue to butt heads  
with a stubborn person.
They'll just let it alone and let you fend for yourself. Just a  
suggestion, all sarcasm aside.


Best,

Karl DeSaulniers
Design Drumm
http://designdrumm.com


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