RE: [PHP-DB] Unsubscribe (mailign lsits in general) question...

2004-01-20 Thread Hutchins, Richard
Tris,

Here's what I found on infoworld.com in a very limited search (dated
1/12/04). There is info in there that should provide you with other avenues
of research to clarify your company's responsibility. Here is a relevant
excerpt:

CAN-SPAM [went into effect Jan 1., 2004] requires that spam e-mail include
a working return e-mail address, a valid postal address for the sending
company, a working opt-out mechanism and a relevant subject line. The law
also directs the U.S. Federal Trade Commission (FTC) to study setting up a
national do-not-spam list, similar to the national do-not-call telemarketing
list now in effect.

And the relevant link:
http://infoworld.com/article/04/01/12/HNspamcomply_1.html

So, in a not-so-thorough examination, it does not look like an opt-in link
is required. Although, it would seem that the Federal Trade Commission's
website (www.ftc.com) should provide additional info for the US.

HTH,
Rich

 -Original Message-
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 I've been told by my boss, that the law has changed in 
 relation to 'Opt 
 out' options on mailing lists etc...
 she tells me that I have to now change all my forms to conform.
 
 She claims that now, each time the user must click the 
 'remain subscribed' 
 link, or we have to remove them from our mailing lists.
 Thus changing opt out, to opt in, EACH TIME?
 Is this true?
 
 She seems quite sure.
 
 We deal with both European and US clients (world wide to be 
 honest, but 
 most other countries don'e care about this.. do they?)
 
 Anyone heard of this before?
 Tris...
 
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Re: [PHP-DB] Unsubscribe (mailign lsits in general) question...

2004-01-20 Thread CPT John W. Holmes
What's this got to do with databases (PHP-DB list)? It's barely related to
PHP to begin with. Think about where your sending your messages before you
click the button.

---John Holmes...

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 9:11 AM
Subject: [PHP-DB] Unsubscribe (mailign lsits in general) question...


 I've been told by my boss, that the law has changed in relation to 'Opt
 out' options on mailing lists etc...
 she tells me that I have to now change all my forms to conform.

 She claims that now, each time the user must click the 'remain subscribed'
 link, or we have to remove them from our mailing lists.
 Thus changing opt out, to opt in, EACH TIME?
 Is this true?

 She seems quite sure.

 We deal with both European and US clients (world wide to be honest, but
 most other countries don'e care about this.. do they?)

 Anyone heard of this before?
 Tris...

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Re: [PHP-DB] Unsubscribe (mailign lsits in general) question...

2004-01-20 Thread Tristan . Pretty
Sorry, forgot to put the[OT] bit in the subject line...






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What's this got to do with databases (PHP-DB list)? It's barely related to
PHP to begin with. Think about where your sending your messages before you
click the button.

---John Holmes...

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 9:11 AM
Subject: [PHP-DB] Unsubscribe (mailign lsits in general) question...


 I've been told by my boss, that the law has changed in relation to 'Opt
 out' options on mailing lists etc...
 she tells me that I have to now change all my forms to conform.

 She claims that now, each time the user must click the 'remain 
subscribed'
 link, or we have to remove them from our mailing lists.
 Thus changing opt out, to opt in, EACH TIME?
 Is this true?

 She seems quite sure.

 We deal with both European and US clients (world wide to be honest, but
 most other countries don'e care about this.. do they?)

 Anyone heard of this before?
 Tris...

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