[PHP-DB] Re: oci8

2004-11-27 Thread javagen
hi,
what is your php OS?
and what is your oracle OS?


Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] дÈëÓʼþ
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 I am facing problem in connecting to Oracle from php.
 I followed the instructions listed in

www.oracle.com/technology/tech/opensource/php/apache/inst_php_apache_linux.h
 tml.
  However, when I run phpinfo(), it show that oci8 is
  not loaded and eventually the ocilogon() is not
  working.
  I'd really appreciate your feedback

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[PHP-DB] Re: oci8 cannot connect after restarting DB

2004-11-18 Thread John Lim
Michael,

After rereading your post again, i realise you mentioned it's happening with 
non-persistent connections also. That puzzles me. Perhaps we are talking 
about multiple bugs here. In general, I have not found PHP5 and oci8 to be 
very stable, and would not recommend moving anything production to use PHP5 
just yet.

Regardsd, John

John Lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
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 Hi

 This is because you are using persistent connections, which are
 left dangling and do not restart after the database restarts.
 Apparently you can hack your tnsnames.ora or oci8 extension.

 See http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=15390

 and http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=30808

 Regards, John

 Michael Caplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
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 Every evening, for whatever reason, our Oracle db (9.2.0) is restated.
 After it is restarted, I am unable to build a connection with Oracle from
 PHP untill Apache is restarted.

 Whenever I do an ociplogon() or ocilogon() following an Oracle DB 
 restart,
 it fails but I am unable to get a description of the error.  Restarting
 Apache fixes the problem.

 Has anyone else experianced the same issue?  It appears to me that this 
 is a
 php oci8 bug.  (shouldn't a new connection be built if a persistant
 connection fails, and if not using persistant connections, shouldn't this 
 be
 a non issue?)

 Thanks,

 Michael

 

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RE: [PHP-DB] Re: oci8 cannot connect after restarting DB

2004-11-18 Thread Michael Caplan
Hi John,

Just saw your blog today on Andi's PHP5 / Oracle article.  

One of the two bugs you sited in your previous email was one that I opened
(http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=30808)  I'm not sure what the case is with
the 4.3.x line, but my hunch this issue is 'bigger' than PHP5.  More
troubling is tony2001 response to my bug report (we don't want to turn on
the noted fix, but will implement something workable with PDO).  I'm anxious
to hear his reply to my follow-up: it makes no sense to me that oracle users
will have to settle for broken logon functions (with the fix sitting
commented in the current code) or abandond the oci8 library all together for
PDO when it hits the streets (which will be some time).

Best,

Michael


-Original Message-
From: John Lim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 3:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PHP-DB] Re: oci8 cannot connect after restarting DB


Michael,

After rereading your post again, i realise you mentioned it's happening with

non-persistent connections also. That puzzles me. Perhaps we are talking 
about multiple bugs here. In general, I have not found PHP5 and oci8 to be 
very stable, and would not recommend moving anything production to use PHP5 
just yet.

Regardsd, John

John Lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hi

 This is because you are using persistent connections, which are left 
 dangling and do not restart after the database restarts. Apparently 
 you can hack your tnsnames.ora or oci8 extension.

 See http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=15390

 and http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=30808

 Regards, John

 Michael Caplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Every evening, for whatever reason, our Oracle db (9.2.0) is 
 restated. After it is restarted, I am unable to build a connection 
 with Oracle from PHP untill Apache is restarted.

 Whenever I do an ociplogon() or ocilogon() following an Oracle DB
 restart,
 it fails but I am unable to get a description of the error.  Restarting
 Apache fixes the problem.

 Has anyone else experianced the same issue?  It appears to me that 
 this
 is a
 php oci8 bug.  (shouldn't a new connection be built if a persistant
 connection fails, and if not using persistant connections, shouldn't this

 be
 a non issue?)

 Thanks,

 Michael

 

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Re: RE: [PHP-DB] Re: oci8 cannot connect after restarting DB

2004-11-18 Thread CHRISTOPHER . JONES
During my presentation at the PHP Conference in Frankfurt I put
out a call for participation in creating a roadmap for Oracle 
connectivity in PHP.

When I get back to work (I'm on a short vacation in Europe with 
intermittent email access) I'll be following up on this.  While I'm
away, feel free to fill my inbox with suggestions and discussion
of your application architecture requirements.

Chris

PS The Zend guys have kindly offered to look at the commonly
reported Windows/PHP5.0.2/OCI8 crash.  Or if anyone is compiling
this combo maybe they can contribute???---BeginMessage---
Hi John,

Just saw your blog today on Andi's PHP5 / Oracle article.  

One of the two bugs you sited in your previous email was one that I opened
(http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=30808)  I'm not sure what the case is with
the 4.3.x line, but my hunch this issue is 'bigger' than PHP5.  More
troubling is tony2001 response to my bug report (we don't want to turn on
the noted fix, but will implement something workable with PDO).  I'm anxious
to hear his reply to my follow-up: it makes no sense to me that oracle users
will have to settle for broken logon functions (with the fix sitting
commented in the current code) or abandond the oci8 library all together for
PDO when it hits the streets (which will be some time).

Best,

Michael


-Original Message-
From: John Lim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 3:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PHP-DB] Re: oci8 cannot connect after restarting DB


Michael,

After rereading your post again, i realise you mentioned it's happening with

non-persistent connections also. That puzzles me. Perhaps we are talking 
about multiple bugs here. In general, I have not found PHP5 and oci8 to be 
very stable, and would not recommend moving anything production to use PHP5 
just yet.

Regardsd, John

John Lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hi

 This is because you are using persistent connections, which are left 
 dangling and do not restart after the database restarts. Apparently 
 you can hack your tnsnames.ora or oci8 extension.

 See http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=15390

 and http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=30808

 Regards, John

 Michael Caplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Every evening, for whatever reason, our Oracle db (9.2.0) is 
 restated. After it is restarted, I am unable to build a connection 
 with Oracle from PHP untill Apache is restarted.

 Whenever I do an ociplogon() or ocilogon() following an Oracle DB
 restart,
 it fails but I am unable to get a description of the error.  Restarting
 Apache fixes the problem.

 Has anyone else experianced the same issue?  It appears to me that 
 this
 is a
 php oci8 bug.  (shouldn't a new connection be built if a persistant
 connection fails, and if not using persistant connections, shouldn't this

 be
 a non issue?)

 Thanks,

 Michael

 

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RE: [PHP-DB] Re: oci8 cannot connect after restarting DB

2004-11-18 Thread Andreas Karajannis
On Thu, 2004-11-18 at 11:41 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 During my presentation at the PHP Conference in Frankfurt I put
 out a call for participation in creating a roadmap for Oracle 
 connectivity in PHP.
 
 When I get back to work (I'm on a short vacation in Europe with 
 intermittent email access) I'll be following up on this.  While I'm
 away, feel free to fill my inbox with suggestions and discussion
 of your application architecture requirements.

I've been recently looking into the OCI8 extension.
Alas, with PHP5 and multithreaded web servers (Apache2 et.al.), the
connection handling seems to be completly broken.

Using PHP5 and the current oci8 module in an mt environment leads to
sessions stacking up on a single server connection without getting
closed nor reused. I didn't try the classic multi process environment,
but I suspect the same broken behaviour to show up.

So what you get right now is a non working session multiplexing (ala
Oracle MTS) which surely is not what people want when the need
connection pooling.

Another area where PHP Oracle support needs improvement is national
charset support. Currently NCLOBs simply don't work. 

Additionaly, the LOB handling support is more complex (using implicit
LOB descriptors) than it need to be, taking into consideration the LOB
handling capabilities introduced with OCI 9.2.

Using the new thread safe hash lists of PHP5, I've successfully
implemented (let's say proof of concept quality ;-)) an extension based
on the current OCI8 code that can use native OCI session pooling
(instead of implementing own connection pooling code) and is able to
handle national character data while mostly retaining backwards
compatability - normal connects are still possible besides predefinded
pools.

So what to do?

While I see great potential in PDO, having a common API as in JDBC or
ODBC would be great, it seems there isn't much development going in that
direction. 
Additionaly, every application would need a major rewrite to switch from
the current oci8 extension to something different.

So, building on the existing OCI8 extension and improving it in the
afore mentioned areas seems to a pragmatic approach while retaining PHP
API compatability for people already using Oracle with PHP.

This would mean dropping support for client libraries before Oracle 9.2,
making it possible to throw away much of the convoluted legacy stuff in
the connection / LOB handling code.
Remember, with OCI client 9.2, you can still connect to 8.1 databases.
If there is still demand for connecting to pre 8.1 databases, people
would have to stick with PHP4, which seems to me reasonable.

Any comments are welcome to better support the greatest RDBMS with
PHP ;-)

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[PHP-DB] Re: oci8 cannot connect after restarting DB

2004-11-17 Thread John Lim
Hi

This is because you are using persistent connections, which are
left dangling and do not restart after the database restarts.
Apparently you can hack your tnsnames.ora or oci8 extension.

See http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=15390

and http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=30808

Regards, John

Michael Caplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Every evening, for whatever reason, our Oracle db (9.2.0) is restated.
 After it is restarted, I am unable to build a connection with Oracle from
 PHP untill Apache is restarted.

 Whenever I do an ociplogon() or ocilogon() following an Oracle DB restart,
 it fails but I am unable to get a description of the error.  Restarting
 Apache fixes the problem.

 Has anyone else experianced the same issue?  It appears to me that this is 
 a
 php oci8 bug.  (shouldn't a new connection be built if a persistant
 connection fails, and if not using persistant connections, shouldn't this 
 be
 a non issue?)

 Thanks,

 Michael

 

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