Re: [PHP-DB] No MySQL Support in PHP5 - Uh oh!

2003-07-04 Thread Adam Lundrigan
that doesn't seem to workit tells me that the libmysql.dll file is not a
PHP module.  Where can I track down the PHP module for MySQL?  Its not in my
/extensions directory

-Adam

Lester Caine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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  Exactly how would one go about installing the MySQL extension, as a
  workaround to the removal of the builtin MySQL library?

 Just select it in the php.ini list of extensions? That is
 how I get Firebird(Interbase) instead.

 Leaving sections of the code to user choice is much better
 than building in code that lots of people do not want anyway.

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Re: [PHP-DB] No MySQL Support in PHP5 - Uh oh!

2003-07-04 Thread Marco Tabini
Try in the current snapshot at http://snaps.php.net (also, more info on
my blog).

Cheers,


Marco Tabini
http://blogs.phparch.com

On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 13:01, Adam Lundrigan wrote:
 that doesn't seem to workit tells me that the libmysql.dll file is not a
 PHP module.  Where can I track down the PHP module for MySQL?  Its not in my
 /extensions directory
 
 -Adam
 
 Lester Caine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Exactly how would one go about installing the MySQL extension, as a
   workaround to the removal of the builtin MySQL library?
 
  Just select it in the php.ini list of extensions? That is
  how I get Firebird(Interbase) instead.
 
  Leaving sections of the code to user choice is much better
  than building in code that lots of people do not want anyway.
 
  --
  Lester Caine
  -
  L.S.Caine Electronic Services
 
 
 
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Re: [PHP-DB] No MySQL Support in PHP5 - Uh oh!

2003-07-04 Thread Adam Lundrigan
Thanks.  I'll try that

-Adam

Marco Tabini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 Try in the current snapshot at http://snaps.php.net (also, more info on
 my blog).

 Cheers,


 Marco Tabini
 http://blogs.phparch.com

 On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 13:01, Adam Lundrigan wrote:
  that doesn't seem to workit tells me that the libmysql.dll file is
not a
  PHP module.  Where can I track down the PHP module for MySQL?  Its not
in my
  /extensions directory
 
  -Adam
 
  Lester Caine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
  news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exactly how would one go about installing the MySQL extension, as a
workaround to the removal of the builtin MySQL library?
  
   Just select it in the php.ini list of extensions? That is
   how I get Firebird(Interbase) instead.
  
   Leaving sections of the code to user choice is much better
   than building in code that lots of people do not want anyway.
  
   --
   Lester Caine
   -
   L.S.Caine Electronic Services
  
  
  
 --

 Marco Tabini
 President

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 28 Bombay Avenue
 Toronto, ON M3H 1B7
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 Fax: (416) 630-5057
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Re: [PHP-DB] No MySQL Support in PHP5 - Uh oh!

2003-07-03 Thread Adam Lundrigan
Exactly how would one go about installing the MySQL extension, as a
workaround to the removal of the builtin MySQL library?

Thanks,

-Adam Lundrigan


Rasmus Lerdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Ben Lake wrote:
  Anyone have an input on the recent announcement that about MySQL
  libraries not being present in PHP 5. What other means might be
  available to connect to MySQL?

 This only affects the bundled library.  It doesn't mean the MySQL
 extension is going away.  Just means you will need to install the library
 yourself.  Exactly like you have to install the client library for
 PostgreSQL, Oracle, Sybase, LDAP, IMAP, SNMP, etc. before you will have
 support for those things.

 -Rasmus



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Re: [PHP-DB] No MySQL Support in PHP5 - Uh oh!

2003-07-03 Thread Lester Caine
Exactly how would one go about installing the MySQL extension, as a
workaround to the removal of the builtin MySQL library?
Just select it in the php.ini list of extensions? That is
how I get Firebird(Interbase) instead.
Leaving sections of the code to user choice is much better
than building in code that lots of people do not want anyway.
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Re: [PHP-DB] No MySQL Support in PHP5 - Uh oh!

2003-07-01 Thread Lester Caine
(Sorry Greg - Must remember to check return address ;) )

And what about recommending PHP/MySQL as a preferred dev environment? I am
currently in the process of several recommendations and wondering if I
shouldn't hold off for a while. Maybe its time to bite the bullet and move
to PHP/Postgres. Will anything remain free
Greg Reeves
Personally I have to live with MySQL built into the Windows
Binaries, but I have never used MySQL, and do not recommend
it because of the commercial implications.
Firebird will remain free for whoever wants it, so I will be
happy to see a MySQL-less build of PHP, and just install that :)
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Re: [PHP-DB] No MySQL Support in PHP5 - Uh oh!

2003-06-29 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Ben Lake wrote:
 Anyone have an input on the recent announcement that about MySQL
 libraries not being present in PHP 5. What other means might be
 available to connect to MySQL?

This only affects the bundled library.  It doesn't mean the MySQL
extension is going away.  Just means you will need to install the library
yourself.  Exactly like you have to install the client library for
PostgreSQL, Oracle, Sybase, LDAP, IMAP, SNMP, etc. before you will have
support for those things.

-Rasmus

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Re: [PHP-DB] No MySQL Support in PHP5 - Uh oh!

2003-06-29 Thread Marco Tabini
Hello Ben--

The MySQL extension has been debundled because MySQL has changed its
licensing policy and, effective 4.0, the library is now distributed
either under the GPL (which is incompatible with the PHP license) or by
purchasing a commercial license.

You can still link to the MySQL library by downloading it separately
from PHP, installing it and the configuring PHP to point to it. This
will work both with 3.x and 4.x. However, technically you can't link
against 4.x unless you have a commercial license from MySQL.

MySQL has confirmed they're working on an exception that would allow you
to link to the 4.x library, but nothing has been made public yet (at
least as far as I know).

Here are some reference links (note: these are all from my blog. It's
not megalomania [well, not all of it, anyway]--I just happened to have
collected some info about this whole thing and it's easier for me to
reference my own site than someone else's):

http://blogs.phparch.com/mt/archives/14.html
http://blogs.phparch.com/mt/archives/19.html
http://blogs.phparch.com/mt/archives/23.html

These also include some comments directly from MySQL on this whole
thing.

Cheers,


Marco

On Sun, 2003-06-29 at 21:24, Ben Lake wrote:
 Howdy All,
 
 Anyone have an input on the recent announcement that about MySQL
 libraries not being present in PHP 5. What other means might be
 available to connect to MySQL?
 
 I took a look at the MySQL license, and I am assuming it was the change
 to the MySQL drivers needing a commercial license to be used that is
 causing all of the fuss?
 
 Correct me if I'm wrong, just trying to figure out what's going to
 happen to some legacy stuff when 5 hits the fan!
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ben Lake
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Re: [PHP-DB] No MySQL Support in PHP5 - Uh oh!

2003-06-29 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Marco Tabini wrote:
 The MySQL extension has been debundled because MySQL has changed its
 licensing policy and, effective 4.0, the library is now distributed
 either under the GPL (which is incompatible with the PHP license) or by
 purchasing a commercial license.

Please don't confuse people further.  We have not unbundled the extension,
just the library.

-Rasmus

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Re: [PHP-DB] No MySQL Support in PHP5 - Uh oh!

2003-06-29 Thread Marco Tabini
Sorry then, the library. The purpose was not to confuse, but, of course,
to inform.


Marco

On Sun, 2003-06-29 at 21:39, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
 On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Marco Tabini wrote:
  The MySQL extension has been debundled because MySQL has changed its
  licensing policy and, effective 4.0, the library is now distributed
  either under the GPL (which is incompatible with the PHP license) or by
  purchasing a commercial license.
 
 Please don't confuse people further.  We have not unbundled the extension,
 just the library.
 
 -Rasmus
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RE: [PHP-DB] No MySQL Support in PHP5 - Uh oh!

2003-06-29 Thread Greg Reeves
And what about recommending PHP/MySQL as a preferred dev environment? I am
curently in the process of several recommendations and wondering if I
shouldn't hold off for a while. Maybe its time to bite the bullet and move
to PHP/Postgres. Will anything remain free
Greg Reeves

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From: Ben Lake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 11:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PHP-DB] No MySQL Support in PHP5 - Uh oh!


Howdy All,

Anyone have an input on the recent announcement that about MySQL
libraries not being present in PHP 5. What other means might be
available to connect to MySQL?

I took a look at the MySQL license, and I am assuming it was the change
to the MySQL drivers needing a commercial license to be used that is
causing all of the fuss?

Correct me if I'm wrong, just trying to figure out what's going to
happen to some legacy stuff when 5 hits the fan!

Thanks,

Ben Lake


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