Re: [PHP-DB] Generating forms and form elements
Mark, I am just catching up on mail, so you may have solved this already. I came across AIOCP the other day ( http://www.tecnick.com/public/code/cp_dpage.php?aiocp_dp=aiocp ) and they store php code snippets in the database. You need to run the install and have it create the database so you can start snooping around. I am not sure I will use it, but there is lots to learn... Gerry On 6/20/06, Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Micah, Thanks for the reply. I didn't see it earlier. Also my apologies for the vagueness but right now things are somewhat vauge. Let me try and explain better: To start I'll paint a visual to explain it better. Ultimately I know this will require additional tables (will get to that in a moment) When the page loads, there is going to be a palette area where form fields of various types will be sitting. They will not be in a form. The form will sit in another part of the page in it's own div. So to start the table all that should be generated into that palette area will be the form elements (selects, checkboxes, radio buttons, etc). I'm thinking php will be used to pull the markup out of the table and into the palette. Users can drag and drop form elements into the form. They can edit the elements in there (i.e. length of field, label name, required field, etc). At that point the chosen elements (the ones now in the form) should be pumped back into another table where a name column will save the form intact with all it's elements. Hope this gives a better idea of what Im trying to acheive. -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DB] Generating forms and form elements
Mark Fellows previously described: Hi, Hitting up the list for maybe a decent link(s) or pointers. I need to figure out how to generate forms and form elements from php code inside database tables. Hope this makes sense. It's not a complete picture of what I need to do but the first step I'll need to take. Do you mean you want to store PHP code or HTML markup in the DB? David -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DB] Generating forms and form elements
PHP code to generate HTML markup. Or maybe just HTML code and then have the php generate it from the makrup in the table ? Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 6:49 PM -07:00 To: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: php-db@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP-DB] Generating forms and form elements Mark Fellows previously described: Hi, Hitting up the list for maybe a decent link(s) or pointers. I need to figure out how to generate forms and form elements from php code inside database tables. Hope this makes sense. It's not a complete picture of what I need to do but the first step I'll need to take. Do you mean you want to store PHP code or HTML markup in the DB? David -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DB] Generating forms and form elements
Mark Fellows previously described: Hi, Hitting up the list for maybe a decent link(s) or pointers. I need to figure out how to generate forms and form elements from php code inside database tables. Hope this makes sense. It's not a complete picture of what I need to do but the first step I'll need to take. Do you mean you want to store PHP code or HTML markup in the DB? David PHP code to generate HTML markup. Or maybe just HTML code and then have the php generate it from the markup in the table ? Mark I've not done anything like this, but it doesn't make sense to me to store PHP in the DB. HTML makes much more sense. Maybe others have a different opinion... David -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DB] Generating forms and form elements
Micah, Thanks for the reply. I didn't see it earlier. Also my apologies for the vagueness but right now things are somewhat vauge. Let me try and explain better: To start I'll paint a visual to explain it better. Ultimately I know this will require additional tables (will get to that in a moment) When the page loads, there is going to be a palette area where form fields of various types will be sitting. They will not be in a form. The form will sit in another part of the page in it's own div. So to start the table all that should be generated into that palette area will be the form elements (selects, checkboxes, radio buttons, etc). I'm thinking php will be used to pull the markup out of the table and into the palette. Users can drag and drop form elements into the form. They can edit the elements in there (i.e. length of field, label name, required field, etc). At that point the chosen elements (the ones now in the form) should be pumped back into another table where a name column will save the form intact with all it's elements. Hope this gives a better idea of what Im trying to acheive. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:01 PM -07:00 To: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP-DB] Generating forms and form elements Hi Mark, That's pretty vague, there's probably 1000 ways to do this. Are you just intending to store the HTML in a text field, or generate the form fields based on data so that the user can edit the data? Are you storing just data in the database, or the form structure? Also if it's structure, do you intend on storing formatting information, or just the form fields themselves. If you sit down and draw up a detailed non-code plan, the solution would likely present itself. -Micah
RE: [PHP-DB] Generating forms and form elements
eval$code); bastien From: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: php-db@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP-DB] Generating forms and form elements Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:37:10 GMT Hi, Hitting up the list for maybe a decent link(s) or pointers. I need to figure out how to generate forms and form elements from php code inside database tables. Hope this makes sense. It's not a complete picture of what I need to do but the first step I'll need to take. TIA Mark -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP-DB] Generating forms and form elements
whoops eval ($code); Bastien From: Bastien Koert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], php-db@lists.php.net Subject: RE: [PHP-DB] Generating forms and form elements Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:44:22 -0400 eval$code); bastien From: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: php-db@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP-DB] Generating forms and form elements Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:37:10 GMT Hi, Hitting up the list for maybe a decent link(s) or pointers. I need to figure out how to generate forms and form elements from php code inside database tables. Hope this makes sense. It's not a complete picture of what I need to do but the first step I'll need to take. TIA Mark -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DB] Generating forms and form elements
Bastien Koert wrote: whoops eval ($code); Someone relatively famous[1] once said If eval is the answer then you're asking the wrong question. The eval function is dangerous. Extremely dangerous. From every point of view there is. If there's another way to do what you're doing (and there almost always is), do that instead. In this case a description of the form would be a better thing to store in the DB rather than the code to generate it. -Stut [1] Rasmus, a while back, can't recall when, but it stuck in my mind Bastien From: Bastien Koert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], php-db@lists.php.net Subject: RE: [PHP-DB] Generating forms and form elements Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:44:22 -0400 eval$code); bastien From: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: php-db@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP-DB] Generating forms and form elements Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:37:10 GMT Hi, Hitting up the list for maybe a decent link(s) or pointers. I need to figure out how to generate forms and form elements from php code inside database tables. Hope this makes sense. It's not a complete picture of what I need to do but the first step I'll need to take. TIA Mark -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DB] Generating forms and form elements
Not commenting on the appropriateness or security of the eval function. Merely offering a possible path. It is up to the OP to decide if that solution is the correct one. B From: Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bastien Koert [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], php-db@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP-DB] Generating forms and form elements Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:09:06 +0100 Bastien Koert wrote: whoops eval ($code); Someone relatively famous[1] once said If eval is the answer then you're asking the wrong question. The eval function is dangerous. Extremely dangerous. From every point of view there is. If there's another way to do what you're doing (and there almost always is), do that instead. In this case a description of the form would be a better thing to store in the DB rather than the code to generate it. -Stut [1] Rasmus, a while back, can't recall when, but it stuck in my mind Bastien From: Bastien Koert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], php-db@lists.php.net Subject: RE: [PHP-DB] Generating forms and form elements Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:44:22 -0400 eval$code); bastien From: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: php-db@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP-DB] Generating forms and form elements Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:37:10 GMT Hi, Hitting up the list for maybe a decent link(s) or pointers. I need to figure out how to generate forms and form elements from php code inside database tables. Hope this makes sense. It's not a complete picture of what I need to do but the first step I'll need to take. TIA Mark -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DB] Generating forms and form elements
Bastien Koert wrote: Not commenting on the appropriateness or security of the eval function. Merely offering a possible path. It is up to the OP to decide if that solution is the correct one. I would accept that if you'd mentioned, or at least hinted at the issues that need to be addressed when using eval. You didn't so I thought it needed to be pointed out. I think we, as a community, have a responsibility to point out the potential security and stability pitfalls of the possible solutions we provide. But that's just me. -Stut -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DB] Generating forms and form elements
Hi Mark, No problem! There as always are many ways to accomplish this, and this sounds like this will be largely an exercise in Javascript, but on the PHP/SQL side you'll just need to design a table where rows correspond to information that pertains to the whole form (username or ID, title, stuff like that) and then a second table that corresponds to form fields for the form, and are linked via an ID field. I do a similar thing for some shopping cart software that allows the administrator to build custom forms to collect information for particular items for sale. It works pretty well. Is there something in particular you're struggling with or does this help? The hard part I think will be associating the javascript drag/drop events with information storage in the database. This to me would work well with a small javascript routine that will upon dropping call XMLRequest to a server side script that will update the table immediatly. Then you don't have to mess with some grotesque hidden form madness to keep track of what the user wants. -Micah Mark Fellowes wrote: Micah, Thanks for the reply. I didn't see it earlier. Also my apologies for the vagueness but right now things are somewhat vauge. Let me try and explain better: To start I'll paint a visual to explain it better. Ultimately I know this will require additional tables (will get to that in a moment) When the page loads, there is going to be a palette area where form fields of various types will be sitting. They will not be in a form. The form will sit in another part of the page in it's own div. So to start the table all that should be generated into that palette area will be the form elements (selects, checkboxes, radio buttons, etc). I'm thinking php will be used to pull the markup out of the table and into the palette. Users can drag and drop form elements into the form. They can edit the elements in there (i.e. length of field, label name, required field, etc). At that point the chosen elements (the ones now in the form) should be pumped back into another table where a name column will save the form intact with all it's elements. Hope this gives a better idea of what Im trying to acheive. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:01 PM -07:00 To: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP-DB] Generating forms and form elements Hi Mark, That's pretty vague, there's probably 1000 ways to do this. Are you just intending to store the HTML in a text field, or generate the form fields based on data so that the user can edit the data? Are you storing just data in the database, or the form structure? Also if it's structure, do you intend on storing formatting information, or just the form fields themselves. If you sit down and draw up a detailed non-code plan, the solution would likely present itself. -Micah !DSPAM:4498548e259778165356420!
Re: [PHP-DB] Generating forms and form elements
Micah Stevens wrote: Stut wrote: Bastien Koert wrote: Not commenting on the appropriateness or security of the eval function. Merely offering a possible path. It is up to the OP to decide if that solution is the correct one. I would accept that if you'd mentioned, or at least hinted at the issues that need to be addressed when using eval. You didn't so I thought it needed to be pointed out. I think we, as a community, have a responsibility to point out the potential security and stability pitfalls of the possible solutions we provide. But that's just me. Last time I handed someone a rope, I didn't tell them to not hang themselves. :) Then you assumed they knew what a rope was and that it's generally a bad idea to use it to suspend themselves in the air by their neck. Likewise you assumed the OP knew that eval was dangerous. -Stut -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DB] Generating forms and form elements
Stut wrote: Micah Stevens wrote: Stut wrote: Bastien Koert wrote: Not commenting on the appropriateness or security of the eval function. Merely offering a possible path. It is up to the OP to decide if that solution is the correct one. I would accept that if you'd mentioned, or at least hinted at the issues that need to be addressed when using eval. You didn't so I thought it needed to be pointed out. I think we, as a community, have a responsibility to point out the potential security and stability pitfalls of the possible solutions we provide. But that's just me. Last time I handed someone a rope, I didn't tell them to not hang themselves. :) Then you assumed they knew what a rope was and that it's generally a bad idea to use it to suspend themselves in the air by their neck. Likewise you assumed the OP knew that eval was dangerous. -Stut Exactly. -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
