Re: [PHP-DB] Re: Many columns (as FK) vs 3x more Columns (in the same table)

2012-09-20 Thread Bruno Sandivilli
We are getting closer. But I'll give some image to better ilustrate:

http://177.71.185.219/stable/anexos/505b18fc713f8imagem.png

this is my table in Flex, the fields are in portuguese so 'ignore' it.




2012/9/19 Matt Pelmear mjpelm...@gmail.com

 Bruno,

 This schema layout seems a little odd to me. Maybe I'm just
 misunderstanding the use.

 Correct me if I'm wrong here:
 Each row in the bill table is a customer? (or some other lookup value
 for which you're generating the data grid?)
 I assume the 15 fields from your original message are the 20 fields you
 are describing here?
 The values inside the Bill table are 100% unique and point to the Value
 table?


 You're trying to generate output that looks like this?
 CategoryRegisteredBilledTotal
 electricity_use   120,00  150,12102,36
 electricity_demand130,00  150,12102,36
 ...

 for a particular row in the Bill table where ID=something ?

 If this is true, I would consider normalizing this a bit more.
 If you break the columns in your bill table out into their own table,
 expand your values table a bit, you could end up with something like this:

 categories table:
 idcategory_name
 1  electricity_use
 2  electricity_demand
 ......
 (where id is the primary key)

 bill_data table:
 ID_from_original_bill_tablecategory_idregistered billedtotal
 1 1 120,00 150,12102,36
 1 2 120,00 150,12102,36
 ...
 (where (ID_from_original_bill_table, category_id) is the primary key)

 And do queries like this:

 SELECT c.category_name, bd.registered, bd.billed, bd.total
 FROM categories AS c
 JOIN bill_data AS bd ON c.id=bd.category_id
 WHERE bill_data.ID_from_original_**bill_table=whatever;

 Or am I still not understanding correctly what you're trying to do?

 If you actually need to do a pivot you might want to look here:
 http://www.artfulsoftware.com/**infotree/queries.php#78http://www.artfulsoftware.com/infotree/queries.php#78

 -Matt


 On 09/19/2012 01:33 PM, Bruno Sandivilli wrote:

 Sorry for the lack of explanation.
 Again:

 I have to model a bill table.

 The bill have 20 fields.
 But for each field we have: *registered* value, *billed *value and* total
 value.*

 So i've created an *bill* table with *20 *fields (representing the bill
 fields, like: consumption, demand, etc   ), and a *bill_values* table
 (with
 *id*,*registered*,*billed *and *total*).


 I'll try to ilustrate:

 Bill Table

 *ID |  eletricity_use | eletricity_demand_ | eletricity_traffic_use
 | eletricity_penalties *| etc 

 1 101102103
 104

 *AND*

 Value Table

 *ID | Registered | Billed | Total*


 101 120,00   150,12102,36
 102 130,00   150,12102,36
 103 150,00   150,12102,36
 104 110,00   140,12102,36

 better? Thanks!


 2012/9/19 Jim Giner jim.gi...@albanyhandball.com

  On 9/19/2012 3:12 PM, Jim Giner wrote:

  On 9/18/2012 8:52 AM, Bruno Sandivilli wrote:

  Hi, i strugling to decide what is the best choice:

 I have a 15 row x 3 columns Flash DataGrid, it means, for each row i
 have 3
 values.
 To represent this in my Database, I could:


  1. Create 2 Tables : A Values table - with 3 columns ; and a Bill
 table
  (with 15 foreign keys, each one pointing to one row in the Values
 table).
  2. Create one Table with 45 columns (15 fields * 3 values for each
  field).

 I want to know, wich is the best choice?
 To manage my query, now i have a SELECT with a thousand of leftJoins.

 This is the best choice?

 How could I run a query wich will give all results linked, like:
 ( column_1_val_1, column_1_val_2, column_1_val_2,
 column_2_val_1, column_1_val_2, column_1_val_3,
etc...) ?

 Thanks!

   I don't get it either.

 You have 15 rows with 3 cols each.  So?  Display them.  Query them.  Big
 deal.

 What is the real difficulty here?  I'm not seeing it.

 (I don't read it as 15x3x3 - at least that's not what he said since he
 said 'for each row he has 3 values')

  Continuing on - why is your visual structure at this point NOT the
 same as
 your physical structure?  I don't think you're telling us what your real
 problem is here.  We need more information.  You have '15 row with 3 cols
 each', ie, 'each row has 3 values'.  So - your table has 15 records in
 it,
 each with 3 columns.  Add a key field to give each row an identity and
 that's it. No?

 Sorry - but again - this post is not showing me a clear problem.


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Re: [PHP-DB] Re: Many columns (as FK) vs 3x more Columns (in the same table)

2012-09-19 Thread Matt Pelmear

I'm a little confused here.

You have a 15x3x3 set of data to display in a 3 column, 15 row datagrid?
Are you displaying a single value in each cell of the datagrid, or all 3 
values for the cell?
How many variables are needed to uniquely select a piece of data from 
that 3-dimensional space?


Can you provide a little more detail about the data?

-Matt

On 09/19/2012 11:44 AM, Bruno Sandivilli wrote:

Anyone? Please.

2012/9/18 Bruno Sandivilli bruno.sandivi...@gmail.com


Hi, i strugling to decide what is the best choice:

I have a 15 row x 3 columns Flash DataGrid, it means, for each row i have
3 values.
To represent this in my Database, I could:


1. Create 2 Tables : A Values table - with 3 columns ; and a Bill
table (with 15 foreign keys, each one pointing to one row in the Values
table).
2. Create one Table with 45 columns (15 fields * 3 values for each
field).

I want to know, wich is the best choice?
To manage my query, now i have a SELECT with a thousand of leftJoins.

This is the best choice?

How could I run a query wich will give all results linked, like:
( column_1_val_1, column_1_val_2, column_1_val_2,
   column_2_val_1, column_1_val_2, column_1_val_3,
  etc...) ?

Thanks!





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Re: [PHP-DB] Re: Many columns (as FK) vs 3x more Columns (in the same table)

2012-09-19 Thread Bruno Sandivilli
Sorry for the lack of explanation.
Again:

I have to model a bill table.

The bill have 20 fields.
But for each field we have: *registered* value, *billed *value and* total
value.*

So i've created an *bill* table with *20 *fields (representing the bill
fields, like: consumption, demand, etc   ), and a *bill_values* table (with
*id*,*registered*,*billed *and *total*).

I'll try to ilustrate:

Bill Table

*ID |  eletricity_use | eletricity_demand_ | eletricity_traffic_use
| eletricity_penalties *| etc 
1 101102103
   104

*AND*

Value Table

*ID | Registered | Billed | Total*

101 120,00   150,12102,36
102 130,00   150,12102,36
103 150,00   150,12102,36
104 110,00   140,12102,36

better? Thanks!


2012/9/19 Jim Giner jim.gi...@albanyhandball.com

 On 9/19/2012 3:12 PM, Jim Giner wrote:

 On 9/18/2012 8:52 AM, Bruno Sandivilli wrote:

 Hi, i strugling to decide what is the best choice:

 I have a 15 row x 3 columns Flash DataGrid, it means, for each row i
 have 3
 values.
 To represent this in my Database, I could:


 1. Create 2 Tables : A Values table - with 3 columns ; and a Bill
 table
 (with 15 foreign keys, each one pointing to one row in the Values
 table).
 2. Create one Table with 45 columns (15 fields * 3 values for each
 field).

 I want to know, wich is the best choice?
 To manage my query, now i have a SELECT with a thousand of leftJoins.

 This is the best choice?

 How could I run a query wich will give all results linked, like:
 ( column_1_val_1, column_1_val_2, column_1_val_2,
column_2_val_1, column_1_val_2, column_1_val_3,
   etc...) ?

 Thanks!

  I don't get it either.

 You have 15 rows with 3 cols each.  So?  Display them.  Query them.  Big
 deal.

 What is the real difficulty here?  I'm not seeing it.

 (I don't read it as 15x3x3 - at least that's not what he said since he
 said 'for each row he has 3 values')

 Continuing on - why is your visual structure at this point NOT the same as
 your physical structure?  I don't think you're telling us what your real
 problem is here.  We need more information.  You have '15 row with 3 cols
 each', ie, 'each row has 3 values'.  So - your table has 15 records in it,
 each with 3 columns.  Add a key field to give each row an identity and
 that's it. No?

 Sorry - but again - this post is not showing me a clear problem.


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Re: [PHP-DB] Re: Many columns (as FK) vs 3x more Columns (in the same table)

2012-09-19 Thread Matt Pelmear

Bruno,

This schema layout seems a little odd to me. Maybe I'm just 
misunderstanding the use.


Correct me if I'm wrong here:
Each row in the bill table is a customer? (or some other lookup value 
for which you're generating the data grid?)
I assume the 15 fields from your original message are the 20 fields you 
are describing here?
The values inside the Bill table are 100% unique and point to the Value 
table?



You're trying to generate output that looks like this?
CategoryRegisteredBilledTotal
electricity_use   120,00  150,12102,36
electricity_demand130,00  150,12102,36
...

for a particular row in the Bill table where ID=something ?

If this is true, I would consider normalizing this a bit more.
If you break the columns in your bill table out into their own table, 
expand your values table a bit, you could end up with something like this:


categories table:
idcategory_name
1  electricity_use
2  electricity_demand
......
(where id is the primary key)

bill_data table:
ID_from_original_bill_tablecategory_idregistered billedtotal
1 1 120,00 150,12102,36
1 2 120,00 150,12102,36
...
(where (ID_from_original_bill_table, category_id) is the primary key)

And do queries like this:

SELECT c.category_name, bd.registered, bd.billed, bd.total
FROM categories AS c
JOIN bill_data AS bd ON c.id=bd.category_id
WHERE bill_data.ID_from_original_bill_table=whatever;

Or am I still not understanding correctly what you're trying to do?

If you actually need to do a pivot you might want to look here: 
http://www.artfulsoftware.com/infotree/queries.php#78


-Matt

On 09/19/2012 01:33 PM, Bruno Sandivilli wrote:

Sorry for the lack of explanation.
Again:

I have to model a bill table.

The bill have 20 fields.
But for each field we have: *registered* value, *billed *value and* total
value.*

So i've created an *bill* table with *20 *fields (representing the bill
fields, like: consumption, demand, etc   ), and a *bill_values* table (with
*id*,*registered*,*billed *and *total*).

I'll try to ilustrate:

Bill Table

*ID |  eletricity_use | eletricity_demand_ | eletricity_traffic_use
| eletricity_penalties *| etc 
1 101102103
104

*AND*

Value Table

*ID | Registered | Billed | Total*

101 120,00   150,12102,36
102 130,00   150,12102,36
103 150,00   150,12102,36
104 110,00   140,12102,36

better? Thanks!


2012/9/19 Jim Giner jim.gi...@albanyhandball.com


On 9/19/2012 3:12 PM, Jim Giner wrote:


On 9/18/2012 8:52 AM, Bruno Sandivilli wrote:


Hi, i strugling to decide what is the best choice:

I have a 15 row x 3 columns Flash DataGrid, it means, for each row i
have 3
values.
To represent this in my Database, I could:


 1. Create 2 Tables : A Values table - with 3 columns ; and a Bill
table
 (with 15 foreign keys, each one pointing to one row in the Values
table).
 2. Create one Table with 45 columns (15 fields * 3 values for each
 field).

I want to know, wich is the best choice?
To manage my query, now i have a SELECT with a thousand of leftJoins.

This is the best choice?

How could I run a query wich will give all results linked, like:
( column_1_val_1, column_1_val_2, column_1_val_2,
column_2_val_1, column_1_val_2, column_1_val_3,
   etc...) ?

Thanks!

  I don't get it either.

You have 15 rows with 3 cols each.  So?  Display them.  Query them.  Big
deal.

What is the real difficulty here?  I'm not seeing it.

(I don't read it as 15x3x3 - at least that's not what he said since he
said 'for each row he has 3 values')


Continuing on - why is your visual structure at this point NOT the same as
your physical structure?  I don't think you're telling us what your real
problem is here.  We need more information.  You have '15 row with 3 cols
each', ie, 'each row has 3 values'.  So - your table has 15 records in it,
each with 3 columns.  Add a key field to give each row an identity and
that's it. No?

Sorry - but again - this post is not showing me a clear problem.


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