Re: RE: [PHP-DB] sending bulk emails

2001-11-02 Thread Russ Michell

Hmmm this is true - but as someone once wrote on this list:

If someone want's to build a car with 4 reverse gears, we can tell them it's not a 
very good idea, 
but we can also show them how to do it.

Granted though - spam is a little different than cars!
Cheers.

Russ
On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 07:26:15 -0600  Rick Emery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Opswe've just armed a potential spammer...
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Russ Michell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 6:20 AM
 To: Cami
 Cc: PHP DB list
 Subject: Re: [PHP-DB] sending bulk emails
 
 
  Does anybody know how to send bulk emails using php?
 Don't do it!!
 
 But of you must - I guess you could build an array containing email
 addresses, names, etc - taken 
 from form input or a database or whatever and then loop the arrays mailing
 people...
 
 $mail = mail(;
 for($i=0; $i$email_array_name;$i++( {
   $mail .= $values,;
   }
 $mail .= \$subject\,\$body\,\From: $from\);;
 
 Something like that anyway (that's just off the top of my head)
 Regards.
 
 Russ
   
 On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 11:26:22 - Cami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi guys,
  Does anybody know how to send bulk emails using php?
  Thanks,
  Cami
  
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RE: RE: [PHP-DB] sending bulk emails

2001-11-02 Thread Rick Emery

GRIN
True...so very true...

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.  In the hands of a spammer...a
deadly thing...
/GRIN

-Original Message-
From: Russ Michell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 7:34 AM
To: Rick Emery
Cc: PHP DB list
Subject: Re: RE: [PHP-DB] sending bulk emails


Hmmm this is true - but as someone once wrote on this list:

If someone want's to build a car with 4 reverse gears, we can tell them
it's not a very good idea, 
but we can also show them how to do it.

Granted though - spam is a little different than cars!
Cheers.

Russ
On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 07:26:15 -0600  Rick Emery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Opswe've just armed a potential spammer...
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Russ Michell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 6:20 AM
 To: Cami
 Cc: PHP DB list
 Subject: Re: [PHP-DB] sending bulk emails
 
 
  Does anybody know how to send bulk emails using php?
 Don't do it!!
 
 But of you must - I guess you could build an array containing email
 addresses, names, etc - taken 
 from form input or a database or whatever and then loop the arrays mailing
 people...
 
 $mail = mail(;
 for($i=0; $i$email_array_name;$i++( {
   $mail .= $values,;
   }
 $mail .= \$subject\,\$body\,\From: $from\);;
 
 Something like that anyway (that's just off the top of my head)
 Regards.
 
 Russ
   
 On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 11:26:22 - Cami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi guys,
  Does anybody know how to send bulk emails using php?
  Thanks,
  Cami
  
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RE: RE: [PHP-DB] sending bulk emails

2001-11-02 Thread Rick Emery

Actually, I've been tempted to do that.  Never done it, though.  But I would
agree with you.
The sense of power would be...euphoric

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I say. Help those who want to be helped. Or else, don't bother.
And if they complain, format their harddrive.
eh...

Come on guys.. don't you remember the first time you made a
spam-script/newsletter-script??
...the feeling you felt when all those mail streamed out of the server...
it IS special.
Don't ruin this poor guy's experience.

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 Hmmm this is true - but as someone once wrote on this list:

 If someone want's to build a car with 4 reverse gears, we can
 tell them it's not a very good idea,
 but we can also show them how to do it.

 Granted though - spam is a little different than cars!
 Cheers.

 Russ
 On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 07:26:15 -0600  Rick Emery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Opswe've just armed a potential spammer...
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Russ Michell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 6:20 AM
  To: Cami
  Cc: PHP DB list
  Subject: Re: [PHP-DB] sending bulk emails
 
 
   Does anybody know how to send bulk emails using php?
  Don't do it!!
 
  But of you must - I guess you could build an array containing email
  addresses, names, etc - taken
  from form input or a database or whatever and then loop the
 arrays mailing
  people...
 
  $mail = mail(;
  for($i=0; $i$email_array_name;$i++( {
  $mail .= $values,;
  }
  $mail .= \$subject\,\$body\,\From: $from\);;
 
  Something like that anyway (that's just off the top of my head)
  Regards.
 
  Russ
 
  On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 11:26:22 - Cami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Hi guys,
   Does anybody know how to send bulk emails using php?
   Thanks,
   Cami
  
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Re: RE: [PHP-DB] sending bulk emails

2001-11-02 Thread Shane Wright

Hi

If he's going to do it, it should at least be done safely...


- have a status field in your database table (unsent/sent/error)

- update the status field after _every_ email you send.

- do NOT do this in a transaction (otherwise if something dies everything is 
forgotten)

- if the update status query fails, do everything possible to avoid carrying 
on (important if the sending job is in crontab) - this can even be things 
like renaming the database table, deleting itself, anything to make sure it 
doesnt screw up and send any emails that it shouldnt

- dont send too fast.  1000-2000 per hour is good.

- be VERY VERY VERY careful that all the recipients have GIVEN PERMISSION for 
you to email them.  Its not worth the hassle of annoying people or risking 
getting your mail hub blacklisted.


General philosophy: sending too few mails or missing out the odd recipient 
doesnt matter, but NEVER send too many or any duplicates to any person.


Just my 2c

Shane


On Friday 02 November 2001 1:40 pm, Rick Emery wrote:
 GRIN
 True...so very true...

 A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.  In the hands of a spammer...a
 deadly thing...
 /GRIN

 -Original Message-
 From: Russ Michell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 7:34 AM
 To: Rick Emery
 Cc: PHP DB list
 Subject: Re: RE: [PHP-DB] sending bulk emails


 Hmmm this is true - but as someone once wrote on this list:

 If someone want's to build a car with 4 reverse gears, we can tell them
 it's not a very good idea,
 but we can also show them how to do it.

 Granted though - spam is a little different than cars!
 Cheers.

 Russ

 On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 07:26:15 -0600  Rick Emery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Opswe've just armed a potential spammer...
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Russ Michell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 6:20 AM
  To: Cami
  Cc: PHP DB list
  Subject: Re: [PHP-DB] sending bulk emails
 
   Does anybody know how to send bulk emails using php?
 
  Don't do it!!
 
  But of you must - I guess you could build an array containing email
  addresses, names, etc - taken
  from form input or a database or whatever and then loop the arrays
  mailing people...
 
  $mail = mail(;
  for($i=0; $i$email_array_name;$i++( {
  $mail .= $values,;
  }
  $mail .= \$subject\,\$body\,\From: $from\);;
 
  Something like that anyway (that's just off the top of my head)
  Regards.
 
  Russ
 
  On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 11:26:22 - Cami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi guys,
   Does anybody know how to send bulk emails using php?
   Thanks,
   Cami
  
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RE: RE: [PHP-DB] sending bulk emails

2001-11-02 Thread Cami

Oh dear,
Please do not worry. I would never send spam emails. One of my clients for
which I am developing a database want to be able to send his members emails
.  The problem would have been simple if he had a few members but he has
tens of tousands. So with some help from some of you and adopting a send
mail library I think that now is in the process of being sorted. So just to
calm you guys down. I would never do a spam email.
Thank you everybody for your help,
Cami


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