Re: [PHP-DEV] Bug #12049 Updated: Crash in Zend Engine

2001-07-11 Thread Zeev Suraski
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Re: [PHP-DEV] [UPDATE] NGScan

2001-07-10 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 03:22 10/7/2001, Joey Smith wrote: Has it ever been considered that it may be time to restructure the PHP Group, if nothing else than bringing in some new blood? I think bringing in new blood is not enough. It should be restructured. James had a pretty clear view of how it should look (as

Re: [PHP-DEV] [UPDATE] NGScan

2001-07-10 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 16:05 10/7/2001, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: First, Zeev: I consider you to be 'way off base here. Regardless of what has gone before, pointing out (what you consider to be) someone else's inadequacies does not obviate your own. Do you admit that your posts are nothing but your opinion and

Re: [PHP-DEV] Possible feature for current version of PHP or PHP 4.1/5.0.

2001-07-10 Thread Zeev Suraski
? If so I'll leave it for now (I'll have more free time :). It'd be really nice to have it as soon as possible. ;-) -Andrei * Change is the only constant. * -- Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED] CTO co-founder, Zend Technologies Ltd. http://www.zend.com/ -- PHP Development Mailing List http

Re: [PHP-DEV] Possible feature for current version of PHP or PHP 4.1/5.0.

2001-07-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Possible feature for current version of PHP or PHP 4.1/5.0.

2001-07-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 18:35 9/7/2001, Andrei Zmievski wrote: I'm leaning towards #3, even though I don't like the yet-another-runtime-option. It may be justified if we say we're phasing out the old functionality in PHP 5.0. How about #3 for 4.1 and #2 for 5.0? Yep, that's what I meant. Zeev -- PHP

Re: [PHP-DEV] [UPDATE] NGScan

2001-07-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
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RE: [PHP-DEV] Possible feature for current version of PHP or PHP 4.1/5.0.

2001-07-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
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Re: [PHP-DEV] [UPDATE] NGScan

2001-07-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
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Re: [PHP-DEV] [UPDATE] NGScan

2001-07-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 20:29 9/7/2001, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: Abstracting PHP to work with multiple scanners, or putting a scanner outside the scripting engine, both make no sense. I don't want to see something which is purely wrong from a technical standpoint, done because of some licensing issue. I don't

Re: [PHP-DEV] [UPDATE] NGScan

2001-07-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
. When personal matters start affecting professional decisions, the way Sascha demonstrated today, the personal matters have to be first resolved. I'm afraid this is the case here. Zeev At 21:02 9/7/2001, Jon Parise wrote: On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 08:52:11PM +0300, Zeev Suraski wrote: I'd

Re: [PHP-DEV] [UPDATE] NGScan

2001-07-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 21:02 9/7/2001, Sascha Schumann wrote: What I do care about is the overall quality of this project, as I'm sure a lot of other people do. To that end, flames like this are a complete waste of time and bandwidth. Please don't take this any farther than it has already gone. You're

[PHP-DEV] NGScan - technical explanation

2001-07-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
I consider it obvious why it makes no sense to abstract the scanner input of the engine, and I guess this is not very good - since some of you may not understand what it is about. The reason it makes no sense is very simple. The scanner Sascha wrote doesn't behave in a different way than the

Re: [PHP-DEV] [UPDATE] NGScan

2001-07-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 21:24 9/7/2001, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: I'm talking about real-world cases of developers who stopped contributing or were afraid to contribute because of your sucky, condescending attitude. Uh? I don't recall a single instance of Sascha scaring someone off. Well, I do. Two, as a matter

Re: [PHP-DEV] NGScan - technical explanation

2001-07-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
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Re: [PHP-DEV] NGScan - technical explanation

2001-07-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 21:38 9/7/2001, Thies C. Arntzen wrote: as long as the (perception of the) Zend License stopps him from submitting it to the ZendEngine he has no other choice than to put it somewhere where he feels comfortable with it. Yes, but if he puts it in PHP, it also has to be

Re: [PHP-DEV] [UPDATE] NGScan

2001-07-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 21:46 9/7/2001, Thies C. Arntzen wrote: On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 09:37:35PM +0300, Zeev Suraski wrote: So please stop with the personal attacks and concentrate on the real technical issues. I'd appreciate it if you stayed out of this one. I'm fed up with Sascha's

Re: [PHP-DEV] [UPDATE] NGScan

2001-07-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 21:45 9/7/2001, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: At 21:24 9/7/2001, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: I'm talking about real-world cases of developers who stopped contributing or were afraid to contribute because of your sucky, condescending attitude. Uh? I don't recall a single instance of

Re: [PHP-DEV] NGScan - technical explanation

2001-07-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 21:49 9/7/2001, Sascha Schumann wrote: On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote: So have a patch on your directory as you published it, for those few for which the flex scanner doesn't work (and they *are* very few). Don't break PHP. Could you explain to me how a completely

Re: [PHP-DEV] [UPDATE] NGScan

2001-07-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 21:50 9/7/2001, Zeev Suraski wrote: I've done my best to avoid saying it for years, I'm sorry, I decided to say what I think. BTW, I've had several beers offered me so far by several guys on this list ... other than the ones who stopped developing thanks to Sascha's attitude, BTW -- PHP

Re: [PHP-DEV] NGScan - technical explanation

2001-07-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 21:55 9/7/2001, Thies C. Arntzen wrote: On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 09:47:46PM +0300, Zeev Suraski wrote: Remember that while this is an impressive improvement, it's not all that useful in the vast majority of cases (it's especially useful with Apache 2.0). IIS comes to mind

Re: [PHP-DEV] [UPDATE] NGScan

2001-07-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 21:58 9/7/2001, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: I'd appreciate it if you stayed out of this one. I'm fed up with Sascha's i _really_ dislike this statement! Me too. If you are going to discuss this on a public mailing list, don't tell

Re: [PHP-DEV] [UPDATE] NGScan

2001-07-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 22:02 9/7/2001, Sascha Schumann wrote: BTW, I've had several beers offered me so far by several guys on this list, who are too afraid to publicly state their minds, but feel exactly the way I do about Sascha's behavior. Publicly stating something to that effect won't solve it.

Re: [PHP-DEV] NGScan - technical explanation

2001-07-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 21:48 9/7/2001, Thies C. Arntzen wrote: besides that i can actually think of one or two usages for a scanner in PHP which is not QPL. for exacle that reason the your DOMXML sample is void - if we had a better DOMXML under the same license we would use the better one.

Re: [PHP-DEV] [UPDATE] NGScan

2001-07-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 22:12 9/7/2001, Zak Greant wrote: Zeev wrote: Rasmus wrote: So please stop with the personal attacks and concentrate on the real technical issues. I'd appreciate it if you stayed out of this one Quoting from a previous message: I'd be happy to hear what other people

Re: [PHP-DEV] NGScan - technical explanation

2001-07-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 22:19 9/7/2001, John Donagher wrote: This seems rather subjective. Also, if the Zend license will be modified (and, to everyone on this list, that is still an _if_), can't we revert back to the former, non-abstracted structure? It's not very subjective. Like Andi said, there's not a single

Re: [PHP-DEV] [UPDATE] NGScan

2001-07-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 22:15 9/7/2001, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: Well, I completely disagree with you on Sascha. Sascha is very direct and doesn't sugar-coat anything. He is confident, and I suppose you could interpret that as arrogance, but so what? Chances are that my much-less-extreme behavior a few years ago was

Re: [PHP-DEV] NGScan - technical explanation

2001-07-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 22:19 9/7/2001, Thies C. Arntzen wrote: if i changed the Zend scanner to be able to read obscured (read encoded so that joe internet won't be able to reverse engineer that) i would have to publish my patch under the QPL, right? - that would make it even less secure. Well

Re: [PHP-DEV] NGScan - technical explanation

2001-07-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 22:24 9/7/2001, Thies C. Arntzen wrote: i think we can just agree to disagree on this very issue. i do think that threaded server *do* matter - fullstop. Uhm, being the guy that made PHP thread safe and implemented the first multithreaded SAPI, I'd say I do too. It doesn't mean I

Re: [PHP-DEV] [UPDATE] NGScan

2001-07-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
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Re: [PHP-DEV] [UPDATE] NGScan

2001-07-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 23:57 9/7/2001, August Zajonc wrote: Why not have an abstraction? It would seem this would allow scanners with different licenses to co-exist, and more to the point there's an immediate technical win here, with code already written. Allowing scanners with different licenses to co-exist isn't

RE: [PHP-DEV] [UPDATE] NGScan

2001-07-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 00:26 10/7/2001, August Zajonc wrote: You see this happen though all the time with other software. Media players don't need to have 10 ways to decode wav files, but they do. There's a very big difference here. It does *exactly* the same thing. Unlike codecs, which are all different.

RE: [PHP-DEV] [UPDATE] NGScan

2001-07-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 00:52 10/7/2001, Sascha Schumann wrote: On Tue, 10 Jul 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote: At 00:26 10/7/2001, August Zajonc wrote: You see this happen though all the time with other software. Media players don't need to have 10 ways to decode wav files, but they do. There's a very big

Re: [PHP-DEV] [UPDATE] NGScan

2001-07-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 01:16 10/7/2001, Thies C. Arntzen wrote: On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 11:41:36PM +0300, Andi Gutmans wrote: Anyway, I think right now the easiest thing for us to do is to move to re2c without your sources (it should be relatively trivial as it's just a this is pretty much what

RE: [PHP-DEV] [UPDATE] NGScan

2001-07-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 01:44 10/7/2001, Sascha Schumann wrote: Then it is incompatible with the parser. Unless you mean slightly different tokens in HTML blocks, which is obviously a negligible performance-related implementation detail. Nah, there are a couple of other things which it does

Re: [PHP-DEV] global HTTP_(POST|GET|SESSION|SERVER|COOKIE)_VARS;

2001-07-02 Thread Zeev Suraski
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Re: [PHP-DEV] foreach behavior and error suppression (@foo)

2001-07-02 Thread Zeev Suraski
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Re: [PHP-DEV] foreach behavior and error suppression (@foo)

2001-07-02 Thread Zeev Suraski
any existing behavior, but would only make foreach more flexible. Daniel - Original Message - From: Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Daniel Beckham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: php-dev [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] foreach behavior and error

Re: [PHP-DEV] 'Global' variable scope.

2001-06-30 Thread Zeev Suraski
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Memory limit is used for all scripts insteadofone? NEW: CRASHING

2001-06-29 Thread Zeev Suraski
Saying it worked in 4.0.4 was quite a valuable piece of information. I can confirm now that memory_limit is broken in 4.0.6, I'll submit a fix to CVS soon. Zeev At 15:23 28/6/2001, Swift wrote: Hi Zeev! Zeev Suraski wrote: This isn't a known problem (well, at least I haven't heard any

[PHP-DEV] Re: 2 problems with shutdown

2001-06-29 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 18:45 28/6/2001, Thies C. Arntzen wrote: hi, we have two problems in the current code when it comes to shutting down apache processes: 1) in main.c php_module_shutdown(): we call php_config_ini_shutdown() before we call the modules MSHUTDOWN functions -

Re: [PHP-DEV] Memory limit is used for all scripts instead of one?

2001-06-28 Thread Zeev Suraski
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Memory limit is used for all scripts instead ofone? NEW: CRASHING

2001-06-28 Thread Zeev Suraski
This isn't a known problem (well, at least I haven't heard any such complaints). It may be a coincidence (i.e. not related to 4.0.6) - I'd wait and see if this problem persists. Zeev At 14:46 28/6/2001, Swift wrote: Hi Zeev! Zeev Suraski wrote: memory_limit applies for the duration

[PHP-DEV] Re: More infos: Memory limit is used for all scripts instead of one?

2001-06-28 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 17:00 28/6/2001, Swift wrote: Hi Zeev! I tested a little around: 1) I dropped our leased-line, so there is no load. 2) I set the mem_limit to 12M. 3) Reboot 4) I used the 2 test-scripts as shown in one of my last mails. I called both scripts via wget at the same time. Each script should

[PHP-DEV] Zend Engine 2.0: Feature Overview and Design

2001-06-27 Thread Zeev Suraski
In the past few months we've been working on designing what we see as the next generation of the Zend Engine. We wrote a design draft that lays out the main changes and enhancement of the new version. Some of the features will look familiar, as they were often requested on the php-dev

[PHP-DEV] Re: possible bug zend_hash_sort(...)

2001-06-26 Thread Zeev Suraski
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Support Apache 1.3.6 or not?

2001-06-26 Thread Zeev Suraski
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Re: [PHP-DEV] RSHUTDOWN, ISAPI

2001-06-26 Thread Zeev Suraski
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Re: [PHP-DEV] About ext/sockets/

2001-06-24 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 22:10 24/6/2001, Jani Taskinen wrote: So this is broken now only on *nix? Nice. Previously it worked only on unices, now it works only on win32? What an improvement. Let's keep cynicism off this list, please... About the socket extension - this was discussed, and agreed upon that the way it

Re: [PHP-DEV] About ext/sockets/

2001-06-24 Thread Zeev Suraski
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RE: [PHP-DEV] About ext/sockets/

2001-06-24 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 03:23 25/6/2001, Brian Tanner wrote: Considering a very low % of PHP programmers have extensive C socket experience, I wouldn't worry too much about making it inconvenient. You guys are just a little biased (IMHO), because you are all talented, experienced, C programmers. Not all of us are

Re: [PHP-DEV] Problem with globals ZTS

2001-06-23 Thread Zeev Suraski
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Using $HTTP_SESSION_VARS with register_globals On

2001-06-23 Thread Zeev Suraski
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[PHP-DEV] PHP 4.0.6 Released!

2001-06-23 Thread Zeev Suraski
PHP 4.0.6 has been released. Like 4.0.5, this is a maintenance release which mostly includes fixes to bugs and issues found in earlier versions. Those of you who decided not to upgrade to 4.0.5, may now wish to jump directly to 4.0.6 to get all the new fixes of both versions. One very

Re: [PHP-DEV] 4.0.6 Packaged!

2001-06-21 Thread Zeev Suraski
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Re: [PHP-DEV] php -l still broke (bug #10348)

2001-06-21 Thread Zeev Suraski
-versioning \ --enable-sockets \ --with-openssl \ --with-snmp \ --with-readline \ --with-mcrypt - Colin -- Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED] CTO co-founder, Zend Technologies Ltd. http://www.zend.com/ -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PHP-DEV] bug or feature?

2001-05-22 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 15:49 22/5/2001, Kristian Köhntopp wrote: Zeev Suraski wrote: It's good that this question was asked, but really, be prepared to the fact that 'no' can also be an answer. Then let me rephrase the question: What is the recommended way to signal error conditions from the inside of an object

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fork() in php?

2001-05-21 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 16:00 21/5/2001, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote: There are no plans for adding MT to PHP itself, but you do have a poor man's cooperative multi-threading through ticks. So now we have a poor man's objects and a poor man's multitasking. What does that say about us? :-) That we have a filthy rich

Re: [PHP-DEV] language specification project

2001-05-21 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 15:58 21/5/2001, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote: I think the important thing is just to have the language specified and thoroughly documented, with BNF and all. Let quirks be quriks for now, a specification process should not fix them, but put them all on the radar for future fixing. There's

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fork() in php?

2001-05-21 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 01:30 22/5/2001, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote: IMHO this type of functionality should only be available in a dedicated SAPI module, at least now. There are a lot of worms waiting to come out of this can, so put the can in a bucket first. :-) Very nicely put! :) Zeev -- PHP Development Mailing

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zdnet Article

2001-05-18 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 08:07 18/5/2001, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: Responding to this article only prolongs its life. Treat PC Magazine/ZDNET's reviews as you would a 3rd grader's book report. These are not technical publications; they are the Popular Mechanics of the PC world. When considering

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zdnet Article

2001-05-18 Thread Zeev Suraski
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Latest commit -- depreciation of call_user_method()

2001-05-18 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 11:21 18/5/2001, Jani Taskinen wrote: As long as these extensions are in there, I think changing any of their API's is a justification for 4.x release. This is simply not the way we decided to work in. Can it be changed? Sure. Should it be changed? In my humble opinion, no, it shouldn't.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Latest commit -- depreciation of call_user_method()

2001-05-18 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 12:05 18/5/2001, Jani Taskinen wrote: You must understand that I don't like changing the API either. But sometimes it just HAS to be changed. And one thing that should happen when such changes are made, is to change the version number. Why is it so sacred to you? Each and his own religion :)

Re: [PHP-DEV] bug or feature?

2001-05-18 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 16:08 18/5/2001, Andrei Zmievski wrote: On Fri, 18 May 2001, Stig Bakken wrote: Anyway, I'd like to see $this assignment in constructor: 1. dismissed as a bug 2. documented as a feature, or +1 from me on this one. +1 on what? :) It's generally a side effect of the implementation, so

Re: [PHP-DEV] bug or feature?

2001-05-18 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 16:27 18/5/2001, Andrei Zmievski wrote: On Fri, 18 May 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote: It's generally a side effect of the implementation, so I wouldn't be too keen on documenting as a feature, but as an undefined behavior. A very useful side effect, perhaps? Yes, but still, a side effect

Re: [PHP-DEV] bug or feature?

2001-05-18 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 16:31 18/5/2001, Oyvind Moll wrote: Could the current behaviour be hard to keep in the future, with the $this assignment in constructor syntax? Yes, it is. Zeev -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: [PHP-DEV] bug or feature?

2001-05-18 Thread Zeev Suraski
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Re: [PHP-DEV] bug or feature?

2001-05-18 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 20:00 18/5/2001, Andrei Zmievski wrote: On Fri, 18 May 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote: Yes, but still, a side effect. Could end up changing in the future, and we don't want to have to limit ourselves to implementations that have this side effect. Well, if we define it as a feature

Re: [PHP-DEV] bug or feature?

2001-05-18 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 20:39 18/5/2001, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: Zeev Suraski wrote: Guys, This isn't up for a vote... It's a side effect of implementation, and other implementations may invalidate it. We can't document it as a feature, because it may bite us big time in the future. Is it just me

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend + memory limiter non-compile

2001-05-17 Thread Zeev Suraski
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /main win95nt.h

2001-05-17 Thread Zeev Suraski
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Re: [PHP-DEV] removing ereg functions

2001-05-16 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 08:50 16/5/2001, Brian Moon wrote: Is it possible to remove the ereg functions? We have a strict policy to only use preg as they are more reliable and faster. So, I am not to happy that PHP is bloated with these ereg functions. Any thoughts? Wow, it's like a plague out there. :) No way.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Latest commit -- depreciation of call_user_method()

2001-05-16 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 01:40 15/5/2001, Sterling Hughes wrote: Sure, yeah. But as a note, other big projects with huge user bases break compatibility as well, Perl, Apache, Python, to name three. It doesn't mean it's a good idea. And in its own way, C, is constantly breaking compat, the amount of times I've had

Re: AW: AW: [PHP-DEV] arrays

2001-05-16 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 13:34 16/5/2001, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote: Acknowledged. But IMO the arrays will be either clearly continous or clearly associative/non-continous in 99.2% of the cases (Zeev statistics applied). I never claim to be accurate, I usually say 99% :) I think it's fine to keep treating an

Re: [PHP-DEV] Latest commit -- depreciation of call_user_method()

2001-05-16 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 14:06 16/5/2001, Jani Taskinen wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote: Also bare in mind that a very large percentage of the developers don't *want* to be forced to change their code, and consider it to be a Who's forcing anybody to update anyway? We are, by not supporting old

Re: [PHP-DEV] removing ereg functions

2001-05-16 Thread Zeev Suraski
Phorum and lots of stuff I have written. I understand your reaction now Rasmus. Sorry for the confusion. Brian Moon -- dealnews.com, Inc. Makers of dealnews dealmac http://dealnews.com/ | http://dealmac.com/ - Original Message - From: Zeev Suraski

[PHP-DEV] Re: HTTP Server Development Questions

2001-05-15 Thread Zeev Suraski
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Re: [PHP-DEV] disktotalspace()

2001-05-15 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 01:25 16/5/2001, Jon Parise wrote: Wouldnt it make more sense here to correct the name of diskfree_space and and an alias back rather than introducing new functions that are named not according the the standard? No, I don't think it's really that much of an issue. We've had a huge

Re: [PHP-DEV] disktotalspace()

2001-05-15 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 01:40 16/5/2001, Jon Parise wrote: How do you feel about renaming the existing diskfreespace() function to disk_free_space() (with an alias for backwards compatibility)? A warm fuzzy feeling :) Seriously though, it's been discussed in great length, and at least from what I understood, going

Re: [PHP-DEV] Latest commit -- depreciation of call_user_method()

2001-05-14 Thread Zeev Suraski
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Re: AW: AW: [PHP-DEV] arrays

2001-05-14 Thread Zeev Suraski
is a continous pure numeric array, associative array or a mix. It should be a trivial fix, and the performance difference is negligible. - Stig [Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Why do you need it? Nobody ever needed it until now. .. it seems noone dared to complain until now

Re: AW: AW: [PHP-DEV] arrays

2001-05-14 Thread Zeev Suraski
It doesn't necessarily mean having to scrap the whole idea, just that we'd actually have to count elements, instead of just flagging. I'll try to think if there are any problems with this approach. Zeev At 02:57 15/5/2001, Andrei Zmievski wrote: At 02:51 AM 5/15/01 +0300, Zeev Suraski wrote

Re: [PHP-DEV] zval_copy_ctor

2001-05-12 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 14:39 12/5/2001, Andi Gutmans wrote: By the way, another thing. You don't have to do the zval_copy_ctor() == SUCCESS either. I guess it is more correct but we don't do it anywhere in our code and if it ever happens we're screwed anyway. It could probably return void but I'd have to go back

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fork() in php?

2001-05-12 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 04:05 12/5/2001, Wez Furlong wrote: I know that there might be some bad interactions with apache if you fork, but if you allow PHP to spot that it forked and call _exit() instead of returning into the SAPI, you should be OK? Not really, the parent has to somehow call wait() on the child,

Re: [PHP-DEV] stat/fstat

2001-05-11 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 12:18 11/5/2001, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote: [Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Hey, I just got around to writing a PHP script that uses stat(), and was quite surprised to find that instead of using string indices, it uses hardcoded/obscure numeric indices, e.g.: Array ( [0

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is this still true?

2001-05-11 Thread Zeev Suraski
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Re: [PHP-DEV] stat/fstat

2001-05-11 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 18:21 11/5/2001, Brian Foddy wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11 May 2001, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote: Why not have both numerical and descriptive indices? Backwards compatible, slightly bloatish, but not really a problem. it's already implemented this way now (it was added

Re: [PHP-DEV] stat/fstat

2001-05-11 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 19:38 11/5/2001, Andrei Zmievski wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2001, Jason Greene wrote: True, I was lazy though and didn't feel like writing all that additional code, just to save 13 longs of memory space : ) 13 * sizeof(zval) actually. 13*(sizeof(zval)+sizeof(zend_mem_header)), and possibly

Re: [PHP-DEV] stat/fstat

2001-05-11 Thread Zeev Suraski
of memory : ) -Jason - Original Message - From: Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Andrei Zmievski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Jason Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jason Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Brian Foddy [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PHP Developers

Re: AW: [PHP-DEV] 4.1 Declaration Case Persistance

2001-05-10 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 06:46 10/5/2001, Harald Radi wrote: looking forward to getting php case sensitive i'm just wondering that function names are exported mixed case in the com extension. e.g. there's a COM_load() and a com_set(), is there a special reason for this (zeev) ? There's no special reason, and it's

Re: [PHP-DEV] unbuffered mysql_db_query for 4.0.6?

2001-05-10 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 13:27 10/5/2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2001, Wez Furlong wrote: It's a notice for now; we can ramp up to a warning in 4.1 and nuke it in 4.2. I think takes too long then. 4.1 is not due for atleast 3-6 monthes I guess and 4.2 will take probably more than a year. I'd

Re: [PHP-DEV] multiselects and arrays

2001-05-10 Thread Zeev Suraski
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Re: [PHP-DEV] multiselects and arrays

2001-05-10 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 19:20 10/5/2001, Andrei Zmievski wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote: Why does it make more sense? Is there any advantage in using this over using foo[]? By changing this behavior, we're actually losing functionality, not adding any. Interaction with Javascript

[PHP-DEV] stat/fstat

2001-05-10 Thread Zeev Suraski
[6] = 11065 [7] = 1024 [8] = 989532201 [9] = 989532201 [10] = 989532201 [11] = 4096 [12] = 2 ) Is there any reason for this? If not, I'd like to add meaningful names as well (I guess it's way too late to remove the numeric indices) Zeev -- Zeev Suraski [EMAIL

Re: [PHP-DEV] stat/fstat

2001-05-10 Thread Zeev Suraski
? At 01:07 11/5/2001, Zeev Suraski wrote: Hey, I just got around to writing a PHP script that uses stat(), and was quite surprised to find that instead of using string indices, it uses hardcoded/obscure numeric indices, e.g.: Array ( [0] = 2050 [1] = 1114462 [2] = 16877 [3] = 2

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
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[PHP-DEV] Daily PHP snapshots for Win32

2001-05-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
I finally got around to set up the automatic Win32 snapshots. You can find it at http://www.zend.com/snapshots/ Right now it only builds the main DLL, and the CGI and ISAPI SAPI modules; We'll add more SAPI modules and extension modules as soon as we get some free time. Zeev -- PHP

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: mysql and unbuffered queries

2001-05-07 Thread Zeev Suraski
, especially with complex/large queries. You get the first row as soon as it's available, instead of having to wait for the MySQL server to find all of the rows. Zeev At 11:45 7/5/2001, Jani Taskinen wrote: On Mon, 7 May 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote: At 02:16 7/5/2001, Wez Furlong wrote: I've

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: mysql and unbuffered queries

2001-05-07 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 13:07 7/5/2001, Jani Taskinen wrote: Second question is: What is the use of mysql_query() function anymore then? Why not just exchange mysql_query() with mysql_unbuffered_query() ? You didn't say anything about any disadvantages on using it. :) Well there are some advantages: - In smaller

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