RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: Unsigned Problems Revisited

2002-10-31 Thread Ford, Mike [LSS]
-Original Message- From: Andi Gutmans [mailto:andi;zend.com] Sent: 30 October 2002 19:26 I think you guys have convinced me that having only isn't too bad (Jason will kill me now). Does anyone here on php-dev have any additional thoughts? Well, although I think it's a good idea

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Unsigned Problems Revisited

2002-10-30 Thread Andi Gutmans
I think you guys have convinced me that having only isn't too bad (Jason will kill me now). Does anyone here on php-dev have any additional thoughts? I just want to point out that what convinced me wasn't the anyone who knows twos complement would know that blah blah blah argument. Don't

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: Unsigned Problems Revisited

2002-10-30 Thread James Cox
We're going to walk into a confusion where people will expect to work too, and get bitten. We have to be really careful that we explain it properly. -- james I think you guys have convinced me that having only isn't too bad (Jason will kill me now). Does anyone here on php-dev have any

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: Unsigned Problems Revisited

2002-10-30 Thread Andi Gutmans
At 08:05 PM 10/30/2002 +, James Cox wrote: We're going to walk into a confusion where people will expect to work too, and get bitten. We have to be really careful that we explain it properly. That was my initial worry too. Andi -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Unsigned Problems Revisited

2002-10-30 Thread Jason T. Greene
On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 13:26, Andi Gutmans wrote: I think you guys have convinced me that having only isn't too bad Great, I really think this is the way to go! (Jason will kill me now) /me kills Andi Just kidding, I am just glad we can come to an agreement, so I can start working on a

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: Unsigned Problems Revisited

2002-10-30 Thread Jason T. Greene
Ok, I hereby volunteer to update the documentation to clearly explain shifting (with examples). -Jason On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 14:05, James Cox wrote: We're going to walk into a confusion where people will expect to work too, and get bitten. We have to be really careful that we explain it

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: Unsigned Problems Revisited

2002-10-30 Thread Mike Robinson
Jason T. Greene writes: Ok, I hereby volunteer to update the documentation to clearly explain shifting (with examples). Excellent! That way, I can't stop losing sleep wondering what the heck someone would need this stuff for. :) Best Regards Mike Robinson -- PHP Development Mailing

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Unsigned Problems Revisited

2002-10-29 Thread Jason T. Greene
On Thu, 2002-10-24 at 09:51, David M. Lloyd wrote: On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Andi Gutmans wrote: At 02:49 PM 10/23/2002 -0500, David M. Lloyd wrote: The reality of twos-complement, bitwise arithmatic is that there are three basic shift operations: shift left, bitwise shift right, and

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Unsigned Problems Revisited

2002-10-24 Thread David M. Lloyd
On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Andi Gutmans wrote: At 02:49 PM 10/23/2002 -0500, David M. Lloyd wrote: The reality of twos-complement, bitwise arithmatic is that there are three basic shift operations: shift left, bitwise shift right, and arithmetic shift right. This simple fact is one of the basic

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Unsigned Problems Revisited

2002-10-23 Thread David M. Lloyd
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Andi Gutmans wrote: Jason knows that my stand on this one is that if we have we really should also have which will clash with here-docs. Suggestions for other operators such as his are a possibility. Wrong on two counts. The reality of twos-complement, bitwise

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Unsigned Problems Revisited

2002-10-23 Thread Andi Gutmans
At 02:49 PM 10/23/2002 -0500, David M. Lloyd wrote: On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Andi Gutmans wrote: Jason knows that my stand on this one is that if we have we really should also have which will clash with here-docs. Suggestions for other operators such as his are a possibility. Wrong on two