Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Bug #13700: Database Abstraction API

2001-10-31 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, Pierre-Alain Joye wrote: Hello, Not really an expert in both pear or metabase (just tests experiences). imho one thing is sure, both got advantage and feel with a completly different approach (philosophy ?) of an db abstraction layer. There is many ways to create an abstractions

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Bug #13700: Database Abstraction API

2001-10-29 Thread l0t3k
Manuel, part of the effort to write an abstraction layer is to factor out common code and patterns and move this into a common base so that higher level development becomes easier. a good example of this is persistent connections handling, which is handled almost identically in all the db

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Bug #13700: Database Abstraction API

2001-10-29 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, L0t3k wrote: in other words, i dont see the development of an abstraction layer in C and PHP as competing propositions. the C layer just allows PHP developers to be more productive and focus on higher levels of application development. the current PHP abstractions fill the need not

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Bug #13700: Database Abstraction API

2001-10-29 Thread Markus Fischer
On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 08:07:17PM -0200, Manuel Lemos wrote : [...] lication. I don't think PEAR-DB provides this. [...] For me, Metabase and PEAR::DB (and others) were exactly written for that purpose: driver independent database access. Did I miss something? Or do you just want to say

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Bug #13700: Database Abstraction API

2001-10-29 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, Markus Fischer wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 08:07:17PM -0200, Manuel Lemos wrote : [...] lication. I don't think PEAR-DB provides this. [...] For me, Metabase and PEAR::DB (and others) were exactly written for that purpose: driver independent database access. Did I miss

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Bug #13700: Database Abstraction API

2001-10-29 Thread Pierre-Alain Joye
Hello, Not really an expert in both pear or metabase (just tests experiences). imho one thing is sure, both got advantage and feel with a completly different approach (philosophy ?) of an db abstraction layer. There is many ways to create an abstractions layer, every way will be usefull for a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Bug #13700: Database Abstraction API

2001-10-27 Thread Markus Fischer
On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 12:29:48PM -0200, Manuel Lemos wrote : I am afraid that will never happen. A project for db abstraction as an extension is already in the works. History discussions about it can be found on pear-dev archiv. - Markus -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Bug #13700: Database Abstraction API

2001-10-27 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, Markus Fischer wrote: On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 12:29:48PM -0200, Manuel Lemos wrote : I am afraid that will never happen. A project for db abstraction as an extension is already in the works. History discussions about it can be found on pear-dev archiv. What I meant that it

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Bug #13700: Database Abstraction API

2001-10-27 Thread Markus Fischer
On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 01:47:10PM -0200, Manuel Lemos wrote : What I meant that it would never happen is the adoption of an existing database abstraction package. Can you name a few? - Markus -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Bug #13700: Database Abstraction API

2001-10-27 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, Markus Fischer wrote: On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 01:47:10PM -0200, Manuel Lemos wrote : What I meant that it would never happen is the adoption of an existing database abstraction package. Can you name a few? Metabase, ADODB, PHPlib, etc.. This discussion was already held before.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Bug #13700: Database Abstraction API

2001-10-18 Thread Thies C. Arntzen
On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 12:03:44PM -0400, lo-tek wrote: A new OOP database abstraction layer (in C) is in the works. Should be ready in 2 or so months... how is that going to be different from PEARs or the dbx one? tc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Bug #13700: Database Abstraction API

2001-10-18 Thread lo-tek
Thies how is that going to be different from PEARs or the dbx one? i was actually inspired in part by PEAR, so ALISON (Abstraction Layer In Search Of a Name) is a superset of PEAR functionality. in addition to current PEAR functionality i've added the following (not exhaustive, and in no