Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Latest ZE2 changes

2002-12-10 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 15:44 08/12/2002, Marcus Börger wrote: Looking into deep reveals that we must disallow overriding privates now. That way the test private_007.phpt is illegal and all current tests i developed would pass (visibility tests are suspended of cause). How do you arrive in that conclusion? The

Re: [PHP-DEV] php.exe - php-cgi.exe

2002-12-10 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 19:50 09/12/2002, Marcus Börger wrote: At 19:46 09.12.2002, Andrei Zmievski wrote: On Mon, 09 Dec 2002, Andi Gutmans wrote: ducking Maybe phpsh would be a good idea for the name of the CLI? It wouldn't confuse ppl as much as php-cli /ducking I'm really not that sure it makes sense to

Re: [PHP-DEV] php.exe - php-cgi.exe

2002-12-10 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 19:46 09/12/2002, Andrei Zmievski wrote: On Mon, 09 Dec 2002, Andi Gutmans wrote: ducking Maybe phpsh would be a good idea for the name of the CLI? It wouldn't confuse ppl as much as php-cli /ducking I'm really not that sure it makes sense to rename the CGI from php to php-cgi after

RE: [PHP-DEV] php.exe - php-cgi.exe

2002-12-10 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 18:57 09/12/2002, John Coggeshall wrote: ducking Maybe phpsh would be a good idea for the name of the CLI? It wouldn't confuse ppl as much as php-cli /ducking Why when I look at phpsh I think Sushi... Is that good or bad? :) -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To

RE: [PHP-DEV] php.exe - php-cgi.exe

2002-12-10 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 18:27 09/12/2002, Andi Gutmans wrote: ducking Maybe phpsh would be a good idea for the name of the CLI? It wouldn't confuse ppl as much as php-cli /ducking I'm really not that sure it makes sense to rename the CGI from php to php-cgi after such a long time. It's not as if we're breaking BC

Re: [PHP-DEV] php.exe - php-cgi.exe

2002-12-10 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 23:11 09/12/2002, Frank M. Kromann wrote: Please mention the name change at least in the NEWS file and maybe php-cli could even output a readable error when beeing called as cgi. These are good points. I think that's a bit like inventing problems and then trying to fix them. Let's keep

RE: [PHP-DEV] php.exe - php-cgi.exe

2002-12-10 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 01:27 10/12/2002, John Coggeshall wrote: Please mention the name change at least in the NEWS file and maybe php-cli could even output a readable error when beeing called as cgi. As I already said, we should put this in the message created at the end of ./configure, in the release notes, in

Re: [PHP-DEV] php.exe - php-cgi.exe

2002-12-10 Thread Derick Rethans
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Leon Atkinson wrote: out on a limb Would it be a tragedy to name both the CLI and CGI versions php on UNIX and php.exe on Windows? Yes, it's a support nightmare. Derick -- - Derick Rethans

Re: [PHP-DEV] php.exe - php-cgi.exe

2002-12-10 Thread Derick Rethans
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Christoph Grottolo wrote: When installing a sapi for a web server i do it once and every time i update it i look if i have to change something in the setup - even file names. And before updating anything i test the stuff on a non production system. I hope (and I

Re: [PHP-DEV] New function: bcpowmod()

2002-12-10 Thread Derick Rethans
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Sara Golemon wrote: I'd like to add a new function to the bcmath module. It's very similar to the bcpow() function except that it takes advantage of a fast exponentiation method when used with a modulous. Based on the function call into libbcmath to bc_raisemod()

Re: [PHP-DEV] php.exe - php-cgi.exe

2002-12-10 Thread Edin Kadribasic
On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Zeev Suraski wrote: I think that's a bit like inventing problems and then trying to fix them. Let's keep it down to things we can determine relatively easily: - Nothing bad will happen if we name the new CLI with whatever kind of name - php-cli, phpsh, whatever -

Re: [PHP-DEV] php.exe - php-cgi.exe

2002-12-10 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
I'm a little surprised that people from Zend is rather prefer to call php for CGI and php-cli for CLI. IMO, Zend products, such as Zend Encoder or Zend IDE, have more chance to sell if PHP is used as replacement for Perl or Python (or even Java). The name of command line interface may not affect

Re: [PHP-DEV] php.exe - php-cgi.exe

2002-12-10 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Zeev Suraski wrote: If we use this KISS approach, why the heck are we even considering this rename? 1.) Using 'php' to run a PHP script from the command-line sounds like the right choice of name (for the sapi/cli binary). 2.) Is keeping BC worth an unintuitive for the sapi/cli

Re: [PHP-DEV] php.exe - php-cgi.exe

2002-12-10 Thread Markus Fischer
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 10:28:54AM +0100, Sebastian Bergmann wrote : 3.) Why this late discussion of the issue? The name of the sapi/cgi binary was changed months ago! Because only if you start a release cycle and announce it properly people notice the NEWS which only happened

[PHP-DEV] Macros for global startup/shutdown functions

2002-12-10 Thread Thomas Wentzel
Hi! How come there are no macros for global startup and shutdown functions? The Zend API documentation refers to such terms and even instructs that one should use STANDARD_MODULE_PROPERTIES_EX instead of STANDARD_MODULE_PROPERTIES if global functions are to be used. I have even found references

Re: [PHP-DEV] Macros for global startup/shutdown functions

2002-12-10 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Thomas Wentzel wrote: Hi! How come there are no macros for global startup and shutdown functions? The Zend API documentation refers to such terms and even instructs that one should use STANDARD_MODULE_PROPERTIES_EX instead of STANDARD_MODULE_PROPERTIES if global

[PHP-DEV] RE: [PHP-QA] RE: Class function pain

2002-12-10 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Dan Rossi wrote: its bizarre my class was working on rc01 , i'm basically getting function cannot be found error when i call a fucntion like so $this-_encrypt(); for instance Fatal error: Call to undefined function: _encrypt() in

Re: [PHP-DEV] Macros for global startup/shutdown functions

2002-12-10 Thread Thomas Wentzel
Thanks, Derick! Does this also mean, that I can't hardcode this functionality? (ie. adding to functions to the zend_module_entry struct) As it is I actually have a use for this, and have succesfully compiled my extension with references to such hardcoded functions - allthough they don't seem to

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Latest ZE2 changes

2002-12-10 Thread Marcus Börger
At 10:02 10.12.2002, Zeev Suraski wrote: At 15:44 08/12/2002, Marcus Börger wrote: Looking into deep reveals that we must disallow overriding privates now. That way the test private_007.phpt is illegal and all current tests i developed would pass (visibility tests are suspended of cause). How

Re: [PHP-DEV] Macros for global startup/shutdown functions

2002-12-10 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Thomas Wentzel wrote: Does this also mean, that I can't hardcode this functionality? (ie. adding to functions to the zend_module_entry struct) As it is I actually have a use for this, and have succesfully compiled my extension with references to such hardcoded functions -

Re: [PHP-DEV] Macros for global startup/shutdown functions

2002-12-10 Thread Thomas Wentzel
Derick Rethans wrote: They are indeed not called anymore, as we just removed the functionality, but it still compiles of course. However, where did you see this documented? It's neither in phpdoc or the ZendAPI docs. Derick Well.. a quick glimpse revealed the following two pages (don't know

Re: [PHP-DEV] Macros for global startup/shutdown functions

2002-12-10 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Thomas Wentzel wrote: Derick Rethans wrote: They are indeed not called anymore, as we just removed the functionality, but it still compiles of course. However, where did you see this documented? It's neither in phpdoc or the ZendAPI docs. Derick Well.. a quick

[PHP-DEV] [Fwd: Bug #20858 [Dup-Bgs]: dba_open create always a lock file]

2002-12-10 Thread Christophe Sollet
Please let me disagree : 20828 is about a bug of new locking scheme with nfs 20858 is not bogus nor a duplicate : letting dba_open managing lock by default BREAK current scripts : If db was meant to be opened read only (by all httpd process) and filesystem have appropiate rights for that (read

Re: [PHP-DEV] Macros for global startup/shutdown functions

2002-12-10 Thread Thomas Wentzel
Derick Rethans wrote: Just move them to module startup/shutdown; it doesn't make any difference anyway. That's what I have been doing so far You are probably right, guess it's a matter of rethinking my code again ;) Do you recall in which version this functionality was removed? no,

[PHP-DEV] Re: [Fwd: Bug #20858 [Dup-Bgs]: dba_open create always a lock file]

2002-12-10 Thread Marcus Börger
At 14:04 10.12.2002, Christophe Sollet wrote: Please let me disagree : 20828 is about a bug of new locking scheme with nfs 20858 is not bogus nor a duplicate : letting dba_open managing lock by default BREAK current scripts : If db was meant to be opened read only (by all httpd process) and

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Latest ZE2 changes

2002-12-10 Thread Zeev Suraski
This does appear to be a problem, we'll need to think about it. At 13:32 10/12/2002, Marcus Börger wrote: At 10:02 10.12.2002, Zeev Suraski wrote: At 15:44 08/12/2002, Marcus Börger wrote: Looking into deep reveals that we must disallow overriding privates now. That way the test

Re: [PHP-DEV] php.exe - php-cgi.exe

2002-12-10 Thread christoph . grottolo
Please mention the name change at least in the NEWS file and maybe php-cli could even output a readable error when beeing called as cgi. that sounds like a nice idea, but how would you know? Derick Maybe you can test the presence of CGI environment variables? I'm amateur... Christoph

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [Fwd: Bug #20858 [Dup-Bgs]: dba_open create always a lockfile]

2002-12-10 Thread Christophe Sollet
Marcus Börger wrote: At 14:04 10.12.2002, Christophe Sollet wrote: Please let me disagree : 20828 is about a bug of new locking scheme with nfs 20858 is not bogus nor a duplicate : letting dba_open managing lock by default BREAK current scripts : If db was meant to be opened read only

Re: [PHP-DEV] php.exe - php-cgi.exe

2002-12-10 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Markus Fischer wrote: More non-developers are getting aware of the upcommong 4.3 release and start to absorb the NEWS and question it. I do not count Zeev as a non-developer :) -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help

Re: [PHP-DEV] php.exe - php-cgi.exe

2002-12-10 Thread Markus Fischer
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 03:38:09PM +0100, Sebastian Bergmann wrote : Markus Fischer wrote: More non-developers are getting aware of the upcommong 4.3 release and start to absorb the NEWS and question it. I do not count Zeev as a non-developer :) I was talking about Mr. Grottolo who

[PHP-DEV] how many records

2002-12-10 Thread Diana Castillo
After I run a query lik this, $db-query($sql); what is the quickest way to find out how many records result? Without having to loop through them all? Thank you , Diana -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

[PHP-DEV] MINIT RINIT et al

2002-12-10 Thread Thomas Wentzel
Ok! My last postings were about the lack of global init/shutdown functions. Derick was kind enough to tell me, that these were deprecated and that I should use MINIT for my initalisations. Well.. this was what I had been doing until it just didn't seem adequate for my needs. I decided to give it

[PHP-DEV] CVS Account Request: mishaleg

2002-12-10 Thread Misha Legenchenko
Developing the PHP runtime. -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

[PHP-DEV] CVS Account Request: jellybob

2002-12-10 Thread Jon Wood
Maintaining the Auth_PrefMan package in PEAR. -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] php.exe - php-cgi.exe

2002-12-10 Thread Leon Atkinson
out on a limb Would it be a tragedy to name both the CLI and CGI versions php on UNIX and php.exe on Windows? Yes, it's a support nightmare. limb broken=yes / I defer to you. Leon -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] php.exe - php-cgi.exe

2002-12-10 Thread Leon Atkinson
P.S. I wish people were following this list more closely so that we don't have to discuss same issues over and over again. But it's fun to argue over the same things every six months! :P Leon -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit:

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/bcmath bcmath.c php_bcmath.h

2002-12-10 Thread Andi Gutmans
I think this is one of those exceptions where we should probably not go by our standard and call the function bcpowmod(). It looks a bit funny that all of the BC functions don't have underscores but only one does. It'll probably confuse people more than it helps. What do you guys think? Andi

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/bcmath bcmath.c php_bcmath.h

2002-12-10 Thread Marcus Börger
At 21:47 10.12.2002, Andi Gutmans wrote: I think this is one of those exceptions where we should probably not go by our standard and call the function bcpowmod(). It looks a bit funny that all of the BC functions don't have underscores but only one does. It'll probably confuse people more than

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/bcmath bcmath.c php_bcmath.h

2002-12-10 Thread Andrei Zmievski
On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Andi Gutmans wrote: I think this is one of those exceptions where we should probably not go by our standard and call the function bcpowmod(). It looks a bit funny that all of the BC functions don't have underscores but only one does. It'll probably confuse people more

RE: [PHP-DEV] php.exe - php-cgi.exe

2002-12-10 Thread John Coggeshall
Esp. when some of us would love to see PHP5 start taking form :) John -Original Message- From: Leon Atkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 2:55 PM To: Edin Kadribasic Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] php.exe - php-cgi.exe P.S. I wish people

[PHP-DEV] PHP_ADD_LIBRARY

2002-12-10 Thread Marcus Börger
I got strange results when configuring php with cpdf, dba, gd and jpeg/tiff. The problem was that cpdf requires jpeg and tiff libraries but did not check for them. Only in gd there were tests and missleeding hints: GD messages suggest that tiff/jpeg are only used there. As of current

[PHP-DEV] CVS Account Request: meebey

2002-12-10 Thread Mirco
new PEAR package called Net_SmartIRC see http://news.php.net/group.php?group=php.pear.dev for more information -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [Fwd: Bug #20858 [Dup-Bgs]: dba_open create always a lockfile]

2002-12-10 Thread Marcus Börger
At 15:22 10.12.2002, Christophe Sollet wrote: Marcus Börger wrote: At 14:04 10.12.2002, Christophe Sollet wrote: Please let me disagree : 20828 is about a bug of new locking scheme with nfs 20858 is not bogus nor a duplicate : letting dba_open managing lock by default BREAK current

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/bcmath bcmath.c php_bcmath.h

2002-12-10 Thread Sara Golemon
I'm hearing two options here: 1) Name the new function bcpowmod() to keep it similiar to existing functions, we'll worry about renaming the functions in this module later... 2) Name the new function bc_powmod(), rename the existing functions now, and create aliases. Possibly introduce an ini

Re: [PHP-DEV] php.exe - php-cgi.exe

2002-12-10 Thread Sterling Hughes
At 23:11 09/12/2002, Frank M. Kromann wrote: Please mention the name change at least in the NEWS file and maybe php-cli could even output a readable error when beeing called as cgi. These are good points. I think that's a bit like inventing problems and then trying to fix them.

[PHP-DEV] Placebo for bug #20539

2002-12-10 Thread Moriyoshi Koizumi
Hi, Attached is a patch against the PHP_4_3 branch which appears to fix the bug #20539, while I haven't expected for this to be a cure at all. I guess destruction order of constants and resources have something to do with this issue. Moriyoshi Index: php_cli.c

[PHP-DEV] $scalar{index} syntax

2002-12-10 Thread Brad Bulger
trying to fix bugs in some PEAR code, i noticed the person used a way of getting at the individual characters in a string: $string{2} === substr($string,2,1) is that old syntax or something? is there any reason to expect it to work in future versions? thanks -- PHP Development Mailing List

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/bcmath bcmath.c php_bcmath.h

2002-12-10 Thread Andi Gutmans
At 05:10 PM 12/10/2002 -0800, Sara Golemon wrote: I'm hearing two options here: 1) Name the new function bcpowmod() to keep it similiar to existing functions, we'll worry about renaming the functions in this module later... 2) Name the new function bc_powmod(), rename the existing functions

Re: [PHP-DEV] $scalar{index} syntax

2002-12-10 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
You mean $string{2} ? That's the more correct way to do $string[2] to make it clear that it is a character offset. This has been supported for years and will not go away. -Rasmus On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Brad Bulger wrote: trying to fix bugs in some PEAR code, i noticed the person used a way

[PHP-DEV] Odp: 'include' function

2002-12-10 Thread Krzysztof Socki
Finally I've managed to modify the parser. It was a good lesson. KS. -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php