Re: [PHP-DEV] T1lib thread safety

2002-04-13 Thread Brian Havard
On Fri, 12 Apr 2002 22:00:12 -0700 (PDT), Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: Just the tip of the iceberg. There are a bunch of libraries that PHP can talk to that are not threadsafe. It's going to take a while before Apache2+PHP is going to be useful. Maybe we need to make a list of libraries that

Re: [PHP-DEV] T1lib thread safety

2002-04-13 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
Just the tip of the iceberg. There are a bunch of libraries that PHP can talk to that are not threadsafe. It's going to take a while before Apache2+PHP is going to be useful. Maybe we need to make a list of libraries that indicates which are thread safe which are not. What about the

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: The PHP Platform

2002-04-13 Thread Björn Schotte
* Ken Egervari wrote: Like I said, I think its time PHP started moving forward and developed a new vision for itself and the community. This is one of the things I'm missing: in my opinion, PHP needs to have a precise roadmap (like Mozilla has for example) what will come for PHP 5, 5.1, 5.2

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: The PHP Platform

2002-04-13 Thread Markus Fischer
On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 08:23:14AM +0200, Björn Schotte wrote : * Ken Egervari wrote: Like I said, I think its time PHP started moving forward and developed a new vision for itself and the community. This is one of the things I'm missing: in my opinion, PHP needs to have a precise

Re: [PHP-DEV] The PHP Platform

2002-04-13 Thread Dave Mertens
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 07:32:47PM -0400, medvitz wrote: The issue I have with PHP is that the people in charge have reasons for not implementing performance enhancements in the base code. They charge a fair amount for add-ons that increases performance drastically. I could actually

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: The PHP Platform

2002-04-13 Thread Dave Mertens
On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 12:40:49AM -, Jim Winstead wrote: yes! the new build system that sascha introduced wasn't a move forward. stig (and the large cast of others) working on building the pear infrastructure aren't moving forward. rasmus is standing firm as he looks at integrating the

Re: [PHP-DEV] Anyone wrote persistent variable extension?

2002-04-13 Thread derick
Hello, On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, medvitz wrote: I'm currently looking into an extension that would allow both persistent variables, as well as persistent functions. At this point I'm still going through the internals to determine the feasibility of such an extension. I dont want to plug, but

[PHP-DEV] domxml nightmare and suggestion

2002-04-13 Thread Christian Stocker
Hi In the last weeks, whenever i read some comments about php and what is bad about it (besides all the good points :) ), domxml seems to be one of the top issues... Personally I don't have much problems with this extension, but missing docu and the API as a moving target, is something which

Re[3]: [PHP-DEV] Let's fork GD!

2002-04-13 Thread Daniel Lorch
Hi, why not replace GD by imagemagick which is better anyway? Have you looked under the skirts of ImageMagick? It is one of the poorest-written libraries I have seen. Have you ever tried to do something productive with GD? It is one of the poorest tools I have ever seen. Seriously:

Re: [PHP-DEV] Let's fork GD!

2002-04-13 Thread Dave Mertens
On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 12:46:56PM +0200, Daniel Lorch wrote: why not replace GD by imagemagick which is better anyway? Have you looked under the skirts of ImageMagick? It is one of the poorest-written libraries I have seen. Have you ever tried to do something productive with GD? It

Re: [PHP-DEV] Let's fork GD!

2002-04-13 Thread Björn Schotte
* Daniel Lorch wrote: Have you ever tried to do something productive with GD? See http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/ (yes, Vagrant seems to be the counterpart of JPGraph regarding Imlib compatibility and general complexity, but I think JPGraph ist the better one) -- PHP-Support * realitätsnahe

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/exif exif.c

2002-04-13 Thread Marcus Börger
Sure i do and it worked fine for all tests!? marcus At 00:02 13.04.2002, you wrote: sniper Fri Apr 12 18:02:30 2002 EDT Modified files: /php4/ext/exif exif.c Log: Fix the build. # Marcus, do you TEST build at all before you commit?! Index: php4/ext/exif/exif.c

Re: [PHP-DEV] domxml nightmare and suggestion

2002-04-13 Thread Lukas Schroeder
On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 12:41:44PM +0200, Christian Stocker wrote: top issues... Personally I don't have much problems with this extension, but missing docu and the API as a moving target, is something which worries a lot of people. But one of the weakest things about domxml is IMHO that it

[PHP-DEV] Extra EXIF headers (exif.c)

2002-04-13 Thread Rui Carmo
Hello there. I have been investigating the EXIF tags that Windows XP can add to files, and have successfully identified five extra tags and their mappings to the fields on the File|Properties...|Summary tab in Explorer (both simple and advanced views). XP ignores the standard UserComment

Re[3]: [PHP-DEV] Let's fork GD!

2002-04-13 Thread Daniel Lorch
Hi, If you think that imagemagick is great, so don't you write an extention for it yourself. Other developers can deside on buildtime which image library they use. Here are some additionals arguments:

Re: [PHP-DEV] Extra EXIF headers (exif.c)

2002-04-13 Thread Marcus Börger
Sounds nice but it will be a lot more work :-) I will try to include them and verify it. But we are in RC3 so you will find the code not before 4.3. marcus At 14:42 13.04.2002, you wrote: Hello there. I have been investigating the EXIF tags that Windows XP can add to files, and have

Re[3]: [PHP-DEV] Let's fork GD!

2002-04-13 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
I have, and so have all sorts of other people. Look at packages like jpgraph. GD does enough. It is a clean and simple library. The ImageMagick library is full of buffer overruns and crash bugs. Try drawing a big circle, for example. The thing writes all over memory it isn't supposed to. If it

Re: [PHP-DEV] setlocale

2002-04-13 Thread fabwash
Hi, I checked the HTTP1.1 protocol and it says: 3.10 Language Tags A language tag identifies a natural language spoken, written, or otherwise conveyed by human beings for communication of information to other human beings. Computer languages are explicitly excluded. HTTP uses

Re: [PHP-DEV] Extra EXIF headers (exif.c)

2002-04-13 Thread Marcus Börger
At 16:02 13.04.2002, you wrote: On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 03:25:30PM +0200, Marcus Börger wrote: Sounds nice but it will be a lot more work :-) I will try to include them and verify it. But we are in RC3 so you will find the code not before 4.3. OK, thanks! :) Maybe someone will build a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Extra EXIF headers (exif.c)

2002-04-13 Thread Rui Carmo
OK. I'm attaching a small (120x90) image I tagged. Just right-click on the image, select Properties and look at the Summary tab. When you apply changes, it saves the file and rewrites the headers. I have tested this on JPEG images from a Sony digital camera, and have dumped the file by hand

Re: [PHP-DEV] Let's fork GD!

2002-04-13 Thread Björn Schotte
* Daniel Lorch wrote: If GD was so great, why do products like typo3 and gallery rather use imagemagick? Maybe because it's more feature-rich, supports 68 formats and can do ALOT of effects? Yep, but I don't see a reason why GD should be thrown away. -- PHP Development Mailing List

Re: [PHP-DEV] Anyone wrote persistent variable extension?

2002-04-13 Thread medvitz
You've posted on this a couple of times. The thing with srm is that they're set up as 'remote' functions. In order to get to a function, to have to contact a (net necessarily) remote daemon. While I do agree that this is cool and useful functionality, what I'm looking for is something that

Re: [PHP-DEV] Anyone wrote persistent variable extension?

2002-04-13 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
What I'm proposing (for the functions anywats) is that a list of files that exists in the PHP.ini file get loaded. The functions from these files stay resident in memory and get merged with the local function table prior to script execution. In a way, it would function like extensions

Re: [PHP-DEV] Let's fork GD!

2002-04-13 Thread Markus Fischer
Daniel, it's all nice and good but there's no production version of ext/imagick available. Until this isn't done, everything else is waste of time ;) - Markus On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 03:04:51PM +0200, Daniel Lorch wrote : Hi, If you think that imagemagick is great, so

Re: [PHP-DEV] Anyone wrote persistent variable extension?

2002-04-13 Thread George Schlossnagle
This may be relevant to the discussion: http://pwee.sourceforge.net On Saturday, April 13, 2002, at 11:29 AM, medvitz wrote: You've posted on this a couple of times. The thing with srm is that they're set up as 'remote' functions. In order to get to a function, to have to contact a (net

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/exif exif.c

2002-04-13 Thread Markus Fischer
Maybe you didn't tested ZTS mode? On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 02:39:36AM +0200, Marcus Börger wrote : Sure i do and it worked fine for all tests!? marcus At 00:02 13.04.2002, you wrote: sniper Fri Apr 12 18:02:30 2002 EDT Modified files: /php4/ext/exif exif.c

RE: Re[3]: [PHP-DEV] Let's fork GD!

2002-04-13 Thread Tim Thorpe
+1 -Original Message- From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 7:48 AM To: Daniel Lorch Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re[3]: [PHP-DEV] Let's fork GD! I have, and so have all sorts of other people. Look at packages like jpgraph. GD does enough. It

Re: [PHP-DEV] The PHP Platform

2002-04-13 Thread medvitz
I don't really have an issue with the Zend people making money from their products. The concern I have is that they sell perfoamance enhancing products. Because they are selling these, I worry that performance in the base Zend engine will not be / is not a primary concern. I think that

[PHP-DEV] Uploading new release

2002-04-13 Thread Jon Parise
I've been trying to upload a new version of the Log package, but I keep running into the same problem. I'll be able to upload the new package, but after a verify it, it redirects me back to the login authentication page and asks me to re-enter my username and password. I can't seem to break

Re: [PHP-DEV] Uploading new release

2002-04-13 Thread Jon Parise
Apologies; I sent this to the wrong list. -- Jon Parise ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) . Information Technology (2001) http://www.csh.rit.edu/~jon/ : Computer Science House Member -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] Let's fork GD!

2002-04-13 Thread Daniel Lorch
Hi, it's all nice and good but there's no production version of ext/imagick available. Until this isn't done, everything else is waste of time ;) - Markus I didn't know imagemagick's sources were of *THAT* bad quality. Rasmus' arguments convinced me not to move to

Re: [PHP-DEV] domxml nightmare and suggestion

2002-04-13 Thread medvitz
Actually, I'd rather see a w3c DOM compliant module than a makeshift DOM, which is what DOMXML seems to be. This would make a lot of things a lot easier, not to mention standard Medvitz Lukas Schroeder wrote: On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 12:41:44PM +0200, Christian Stocker wrote: top issues...

[PHP-DEV] C++ Class Wrapping

2002-04-13 Thread medvitz
Is there a way to wrap existing c++ classes into a PHP class (via an extension) ? Medvitz -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] The PHP Platform

2002-04-13 Thread Dave Mertens
On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 11:57:13AM -0400, medvitz wrote: The concern I have is that they sell perfoamance enhancing products. Because they are selling these, I worry that performance in the base Zend engine will not be / is not a primary concern. I think that performance should be a top

Re: [PHP-DEV] C++ Class Wrapping

2002-04-13 Thread Daniel Lorch
Hi, Is there a way to wrap existing c++ classes into a PHP class (via an extension) ? This usually happens by writing an extension for PHP, although C is the common language to do this: http://www.php.net/manual/en/zend.php -daniel -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/

Re: [PHP-DEV] C++ Class Wrapping

2002-04-13 Thread Ken Egervari
Can you use C++ however? I'm very interested in writing/using a standard w3c binding for DOM XML - Original Message - From: Daniel Lorch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: medvitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] C++ Class Wrapping

Re: [PHP-DEV] C++ Class Wrapping

2002-04-13 Thread Ken Egervari
Can you use C++ however? I'm very interested in writing/using a standard w3c binding for DOM XML - Original Message - From: Daniel Lorch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: medvitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] C++ Class Wrapping

Re: [PHP-DEV] domxml nightmare and suggestion

2002-04-13 Thread derick
On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, medvitz wrote: Actually, I'd rather see a w3c DOM compliant module than a makeshift DOM, which is what DOMXML seems to be. This would make a lot of things a lot easier, not to mention standard Then fix the DomXML extension we have now, but also think about Backward

Re: [PHP-DEV] domxml nightmare and suggestion

2002-04-13 Thread Markus Fischer
We would still have the 'dom_*()' namespace if someone wants to do a clean implementation from scratch. On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 02:11:49AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, medvitz wrote: Actually, I'd rather see a w3c DOM compliant module than a makeshift DOM,

Re: [PHP-DEV] domxml nightmare and suggestion

2002-04-13 Thread Ken Egervari
I would like to do this if I have the time. As mentioned, i'm working on a project that needs the latest version of PHP. If I could participate in this to make it happen much sooner, I'd be happy to. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: medvitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL

[PHP-DEV] Copyright question

2002-04-13 Thread brad lafountain
Hello, I have a php extension and I was working on a website. I copyied/stole the layout/code from qa.php.net. The extension is opensource and leaves the copyright (Copyright © 1997 - 2002 PHP Group All rights reserved.) on the site. Can I do this or does this break the liscence? I like the

Re: [PHP-DEV] Copyright question

2002-04-13 Thread Daniel Lorch
Hi, I like the layout and i think php users/developers are useto the layout of the php site thats why i want to be consitistant. I asked the same thing some time ago. It turned out to be ok: http://news.php.net/article.php?group=php.mirrorsarticle=8320

Re: [PHP-DEV] T1lib thread safety

2002-04-13 Thread Stig S. Bakken
Should we print a warning at the end of configure listing what libraries you are trying to link with that we know are not thread safe? - Stig On Sat, 2002-04-13 at 07:00, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: Just the tip of the iceberg. There are a bunch of libraries that PHP can talk to that are not

Re: [PHP-DEV] C++ Class Wrapping

2002-04-13 Thread Stig S. Bakken
Sure you can. Take a look at for example ext/dotnet/dotnet.cpp. - Stig On Sun, 2002-04-14 at 02:02, Ken Egervari wrote: Can you use C++ however? I'm very interested in writing/using a standard w3c binding for DOM XML - Original Message - From: Daniel Lorch [EMAIL PROTECTED]