Re: [PHP-DEV] 4.3 when?

[Dan Kalowsky]

Actually I'd say don't roll 4.3 until the New Year.  You're going to 
get the holiday break for many students coming up in a few days.  This 
will give them (me) a large amount of free time to get back to hacking 
and checking source/bugs.

More than that, I tend to think releasing stuff near holidays is a bad 
idea... no one around to fix things that go really bad, etc etc.

On Monday, December 9, 2002, at 04:24 AM, Andi Gutmans wrote:

Hi,

I'd like to start working towards a beta of ZE2 but it seems that 4.3 
is still lingering and I'd like to wait until after 4.3.
What's happening with that? Shouldn't we get it out before Christmas?
If any bad bugs creep in that'd mean we can use the relatively silent 
2-3 weeks following Christmas to fix them.

Andi


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Re: [PHP-DEV] 4.3 when?

[Andrei Zmievski]

On Mon, 09 Dec 2002, Wez Furlong wrote:
> I have a patch from Melvyn for streams under *BSD systems, and the
> critical bugs should also be fixed, particularly 20539, 19919 and 19292.
> 
> [15209] Under Apache, register_shutdown_function() broke between 4.0.x to 4.1.x
> [19292] random error: open_basedir restriction in effect. File is in wrong directory
> [19919] segmentation violation in sapi_apache_header_handler, mod_php4.c  line 208
> [20109] iplanet 6 core dump w/NSAPI load
> [20190] Random mem corruption: zend_get_executed_filename() mismatch
> [20467] Buffer overflow returning binary (sybase)
> [20539] PHP CLI Segmentation Fault
> [20802] memory limit crash

Plus our QA team is not quite what it used to be and Derick is gone for
a couple of days. We were planning to roll RC3 with a short test cycle,
but it would be good to do that with the abovementioned bugs fixed. If
we don't fix them, then we need to bear responsibility for them showing
up in 4.3.0.

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Re: [PHP-DEV] 4.3 when?

[Wez Furlong]

I have a patch from Melvyn for streams under *BSD systems, and the
critical bugs should also be fixed, particularly 20539, 19919 and 19292.

[15209] Under Apache, register_shutdown_function() broke between 4.0.x to 4.1.x
[19292] random error: open_basedir restriction in effect. File is in wrong directory
[19919] segmentation violation in sapi_apache_header_handler, mod_php4.c  line 208
[20109] iplanet 6 core dump w/NSAPI load
[20190] Random mem corruption: zend_get_executed_filename() mismatch
[20467] Buffer overflow returning binary (sybase)
[20539] PHP CLI Segmentation Fault
[20802] memory limit crash

--Wez.

On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Andi Gutmans wrote:

> Any idea how many more bugs are waiting to be addressed?
>
> Andi
>
> At 12:36 PM 12/9/2002 +, Wez Furlong wrote:
> >Because we are still finding and fixing bugs in the RCs.
> >
> >--Wez.
> >
> >On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Andi Gutmans wrote:
> >
> > > Now that still leave my original question about 4.3. Why the hell aren't we
> > > rolling it?
> >
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Re: [PHP-DEV] 4.3 when?

[Andi Gutmans]

Any idea how many more bugs are waiting to be addressed?

Andi

At 12:36 PM 12/9/2002 +, Wez Furlong wrote:

Because we are still finding and fixing bugs in the RCs.

--Wez.

On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Andi Gutmans wrote:

> Now that still leave my original question about 4.3. Why the hell aren't we
> rolling it?



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Re: [PHP-DEV] 4.3 when?

[Wez Furlong]

Because we are still finding and fixing bugs in the RCs.

--Wez.

On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Andi Gutmans wrote:

> Now that still leave my original question about 4.3. Why the hell aren't we
> rolling it?



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Re: [PHP-DEV] 4.3 when?

[Andi Gutmans]

At 02:24 PM 12/9/2002 +0200, Jani Taskinen wrote:

On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Andi Gutmans wrote:

>At 02:13 PM 12/9/2002 +0200, Jani Taskinen wrote:
>>On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Andi Gutmans wrote:
>>
>> >Hi,
>> >
>> >I'd like to start working towards a beta of ZE2 but it seems that 4.3 is
>> >still lingering and I'd like to wait until after 4.3.
>> >What's happening with that? Shouldn't we get it out before Christmas?
>>
>> Try checking the "Verified" and "Critical" bugs for e.g. "Scripting
>> Engine Problem"
>> once and a while..
>
>That's the answer to my question? I don't see any bug there which is a show
>stopper for 4.3.

Heh..so it's a good reason not to bother fixing/looking into them?


I have looked at some of them in the past and some of them I just haven't 
had time to look at. You did succeed in getting me to look at them again 
but it still doesn't mean they are show stoppers. As far as the engine is 
concerned 4.3 can roll.
No new bugs since 4.2.x have been introduced as far as I know.

I thought bugs marked as "Critical" were supposed to be fixed before
release?


I didn't mark them as critical. I don't think any of those are show 
stoppers. I suggest before people mark stuff as critical they check with 
the author if it makes sense. Many releases in the past have gone out with 
what you call "critical" bugs. Or we can have a new category "show stopper" 
where the difference between critical and show stopper is communication and 
agreement with the author.

Now that still leave my original question about 4.3. Why the hell aren't we 
rolling it?

Andi


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Re: [PHP-DEV] 4.3 when?

[Jani Taskinen]

On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Andi Gutmans wrote:

>At 02:13 PM 12/9/2002 +0200, Jani Taskinen wrote:
>>On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Andi Gutmans wrote:
>>
>> >Hi,
>> >
>> >I'd like to start working towards a beta of ZE2 but it seems that 4.3 is
>> >still lingering and I'd like to wait until after 4.3.
>> >What's happening with that? Shouldn't we get it out before Christmas?
>>
>> Try checking the "Verified" and "Critical" bugs for e.g. "Scripting 
>> Engine Problem"
>> once and a while..
>
>That's the answer to my question? I don't see any bug there which is a show 
>stopper for 4.3.

Heh..so it's a good reason not to bother fixing/looking into them?
I thought bugs marked as "Critical" were supposed to be fixed before
release? 

--Jani



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Re: [PHP-DEV] 4.3 when?

[Andi Gutmans]

At 02:13 PM 12/9/2002 +0200, Jani Taskinen wrote:

On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Andi Gutmans wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I'd like to start working towards a beta of ZE2 but it seems that 4.3 is
>still lingering and I'd like to wait until after 4.3.
>What's happening with that? Shouldn't we get it out before Christmas?

Try checking the "Verified" and "Critical" bugs for e.g. "Scripting 
Engine Problem"
once and a while..

That's the answer to my question? I don't see any bug there which is a show 
stopper for 4.3.

Andi


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Re: [PHP-DEV] 4.3 when?

[Jani Taskinen]

On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Andi Gutmans wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I'd like to start working towards a beta of ZE2 but it seems that 4.3 is 
>still lingering and I'd like to wait until after 4.3.
>What's happening with that? Shouldn't we get it out before Christmas?

Try checking the "Verified" and "Critical" bugs for e.g. "Scripting Engine Problem"
once and a while..

--Jani


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[PHP-DEV] 4.3 when?

[Andi Gutmans]

Hi,

I'd like to start working towards a beta of ZE2 but it seems that 4.3 is 
still lingering and I'd like to wait until after 4.3.
What's happening with that? Shouldn't we get it out before Christmas?
If any bad bugs creep in that'd mean we can use the relatively silent 2-3 
weeks following Christmas to fix them.

Andi


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